What if Zeke received the Murray treatment

[SoupcanSam]

I mean I actually see nothing wrong with letting Zeke walk if things get out of hand.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ing-for-a-future-without-ezekiel-elliott/amp/

 

[TheDank]

Read the title and immediately thought of Kyler not Demarco and was wondering why you thought Zeke was too short.

 

[slick325]

The QB better make a major leap and the defense needs to be a legit top 5 turnover tough to score against machine OR...things can get ugly for the Cowboys IMO.

Zeke is a generational talent at RB and while Murray had a great year in 2014 and some decent ones prior...they aren't the same player despite sharing the same position. Zeke has HOF talent. Not sure you don't pay him.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Simple answer.....no he will not

As good as Murray was, Zeke is a lot of things he was not........younger, healthier, the 4th overall pick

PFT is trying their damnest to stir a hornet nest with no bees........

 

[dfense]

The QB better make a major leap and the defense needs to be a legit top 5 turnover tough to score against machine OR...things can get ugly for the Cowboys IMO.

Zeke is a generational talent at RB and while Murray had a great year in 2014 and some decent ones prior...they aren't the same player despite sharing the same position. Zeke has HOF talent. Not sure you don't pay him.

There's an argument to be made there. Murray was a 5.0 yards a carry guy who also was much more of a receiving threat than Zeke. Murray had slippery moves that Zeke just doesn't have. Zeke is more of a power runner, rarely goes backwards. Both are great. But Cowboys made the absolute right move letting Murray go. Although their immediate replacement did not work out, Murray would not have finished out his 2nd contract here. He broke down after the 2nd year away.

 

[HowardC]

The QB better make a major leap and the defense needs to be a legit top 5 turnover tough to score against machine OR...things can get ugly for the Cowboys IMO.

Zeke is a generational talent at RB and while Murray had a great year in 2014 and some decent ones prior...they aren't the same player despite sharing the same position. Zeke has HOF talent. Not sure you don't pay him.

Ding ding ding...

 

[big dog cowboy]

Nope. Big difference between them. Murray though he was a HOF running back. Zeke actually is.

 

[Diehardblues]

Most likely we won’t sign Zeke to a new contract. More likely we’d Tag him a couple years. If we can’t win a championship with him in the first 5 or 6 years, it’s not likely going to happen.

But this subject isn’t newsworthy at this time . More trolling fir responses it appears . This decision won’t have to made until probably 2021.

 

[Diehardblues]

Nope. Big difference between them. Murray though he was a HOF running back. Zeke actually is.

And Murray had injury issues as well. We also at that time believed our OL was due most of the credit.

It might be a little different this time since we have seen how dependent Dak is on Zeke and Elite surrounding talent and why it’s prob more likely we’ll Tag him. To postpone the decision.

 

[mattjames2010]

He's an RB. Stop getting attached to them.

 

[Stash]

Simple answer.....no he will not

As good as Murray was, Zeke is a lot of things he was not........younger, healthier, the 4th overall pick

PFT is trying their damnest to stir a hornet nest with no bees........

I definitely agree wth that last part. Too often, Mike Florio likes to interject himself into conversations about player safety and their contracts. He should stick to reporting news rather than desperately trying to make it where it doesn't exist.

Having said that, I could see the Cowboys making a tough decision on Elliott if they felt they had to, or if his contract demands got out of hand. Do I consider it likely? No, I don't. But I also don't discount entirely the possibility that they could ultimately let him walk.

This is, in fact, the running back position we're talking about here. Among the easiest positions in football to replace. Elliott's talent aside, it's simply true that running backs can be found much more readily than other marquee positions.

 

[mattjames2010]

Most likely we won’t sign Zeke to a new contract. More likely we’d Tag him a couple years. If we can’t win a championship with him in the first 5 or 6 years, it’s not likely going to happen.

But this subject isn’t newsworthy at this time . More trolling fir responses it appears . This decision won’t have to made until probably 2021.

Why would you think Zeke would be okay with this? There are already rumors around Dallas he and his agents want to start contract talks soon.

Zeke will want to get paid as soon as possible. Either he gets his contract or he'll be asking to find a new home.

 

[JD_KaPow]

The QB better make a major leap and the defense needs to be a legit top 5 turnover tough to score against machine OR...things can get ugly for the Cowboys IMO.

Zeke is a generational talent at RB and while Murray had a great year in 2014 and some decent ones prior...they aren't the same player despite sharing the same position. Zeke has HOF talent. Not sure you don't pay him.

I think "generational talent" is a little overblown. Zeke is in a tier with Barkley and Gurley (assuming whatever was going on with Gurley late last season is resolved). Not sure how you have three generational talents show up in 4 years. And that's not even mentioning David Johnson (injured and misused) or Le'Veon Bell (wouldn't stand for being given the Murray treatment by Pittsburgh).

Frankly, to me, Zeke is just not all that special. I mean, yes, in the sense that he's a top-5 RB in the league. But he hasn't had a run longer than 41 yards in two years, he's not Johnson or Bell in the passing game, and he has been worked HARD, both in college and with the Cowboys. I'd be very nervous about the value Dallas would be getting on that second contract.

 

[mattjames2010]

I think "generational talent" is a little overblown. Zeke is in a tier with Barkley and Gurley (assuming whatever was going on with Gurley late last season is resolved). Not sure how you have three generational talents show up in 4 years. And that's not even mentioning David Johnson (injured and misused) or Le'Veon Bell (wouldn't stand for being given the Murray treatment by Pittsburgh).

Frankly, to me, Zeke is just not all that special. I mean, yes, in the sense that he's a top-5 RB in the league. But he hasn't had a run longer than 41 yards in two years, he's not Johnson or Bell in the passing game, and he has been worked HARD, both in college and with the Cowboys. I'd be very nervous about the value Dallas would be getting on that second contract.

It seems to be the only thing that will make Zeke generational would be if he has outstanding durability while keeping a similar level of play. But I doubt he's the next Smith.

 

[nate dizzle]

He won't get the Murray treatment. He'll get the Lev Bell treatment. If they tag him for 2 or 3 years he will then be into what, his 7th or 8th year? At that point you can probably sign him cheaper because his value on the FA market will be depressed due to age/use. Love Zeke but that is how I see it playing out.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Most likely we won’t sign Zeke to a new contract. More likely we’d Tag him a couple years. If we can’t win a championship with him in the first 5 or 6 years, it’s not likely going to happen.

But this subject isn’t newsworthy at this time . More trolling fir responses it appears . This decision won’t have to made until probably 2021.

Stephen on record he has every intention of resigning Zeke. Even admitted he'll like be the highest paid RB ( said Zeke contract floor will be Gurley numbers ). He basically asked Zeke to be patient but it'll get done.

 

[jazzcat22]

Why do many want to, or at least keep bringing up about not keeping Zeke. Not this,thread yet, but many other threads.
He has this year and they picked up the 5th year option. He is the cog that makes this offense go.

But yet fans wants to let him walk to save a few bucks, and are already trying to replace him.
He is not going anywhere, and can’t see him being a Leveon Bell type distraction if they want to franchise tag him.

They think there is some magical 4 or 5 year frame where the wheels fall off of RB’s. Let’s see where it all stands 2 years from now. In spite of the average RB NFL life span is low, but that is taking into account all RB’s, not just starters. As that number is true for all players not just RB’s. Unless there are new number breakdown out there somewhere.

 

[mattjames2010]

He won't get the Murray treatment. He'll get the Lev Bell treatment. If they tag him for 2 or 3 years he will then be into what, his 7th or 8th year? At that point you can probably sign him cheaper because his value on the FA market will be depressed due to age/use. Love Zeke but that is how I see it playing out.

He isn't going into his 7th and 8th season without ever having a second contract LOL

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

It IS possible.

 

[JD_KaPow]

It seems to be the only thing that will make Zeke generational would be if he has outstanding durability while keeping a similar level of play. But I doubt he's the next Smith.

Right. Smith did everything very well (well, he was just okay as a receiver), but the only thing he was truly amazing at was being durable. And even Emmitt stepped down from monster to workhorse by age 27.