Jerry is large and in charge

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For some reason we have fans that are choosing not to give credit to Jerry for some of the better decisions being made in recent years?

As a result are opting to want to believe he has been delegating more of the personnel decisions. Jerry has a history of better personnel decisions over the years when he’s had greater influences who he listens to.

We deservedly hold him accountable for the lack of success in recent era but he will be in position to take credit if we have more success because ultimately he’s still running the show.

It’s a big part of why he doesn’t want a proven HC coming in to steal his thunder. Anymore than he wants his son to do so.
 
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It’s certainly not priced as gimmick stuff. Don Julio and Herradura for example are both making it and priced higher than regular anejo.
Yes. It is priced like the trendy gimmick.
 

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I don't know anyone that thinks that Jerry is not in control of the team. Some of his decisions are very good, but keeping Garrett as head coach is the biggest problem of the last several years. I'm not sure why Garrett is even here this coming season if most people consider him a lame duck. By keeping him Jerry takes the chance that the team will overcome the coaching and win the Super Bowl. Then Garrett will get a long extension that will cripple the team for the next decade.
 

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As involved as Jerry was in that harmless little clip where he asked for input and then made the right call? You sure?

You know I don’t defend Jerry a whole lot in general because he does things that hurt his team. But this wasn’t an example of that.

I think the point is that nobody in Dallas is making any football decisions without his approval. It was clear from the way Stephen was handling the phone that he had no authority to authorize or approve anything without looking to his right.

Maybe it was the right call, but even a broken clock is correct twice a day. When you make as many decisions as Jerry, some of them are going to be right.
 

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I think the point is that nobody in Dallas is making any football decisions without his approval. It was clear from the way Stephen was handling the phone that he had no authority to authorize or approve anything without looking to his right.

Maybe it was the right call, but even a broken clock is correct twice a day. When you make as many decisions as Jerry, some of them are going to be right.
Yep.. Jerry has a history of making better decisions when he’s had greater influences. Like with Jimmy , Bill and now with Jason.

As much criticism as Garrett takes with his coaching our better drafts and personnel decisions can be documented back to when he took over in 2011 which included the promotion of Will McClay.

The more success those decisions have brought the more Jerry and Stephen listen to them. Remember Stephen was here all through the bad years too with some of those horrid drafts with Switzer, Gailey, Campo and Phillips and didn’t make the impact we had with Jimmy, Bill and Jason.

It’s time for Jason to receive his due not only in cultivating the culture improvement of this franchise but a bigger voice in the talent acquisition in his vision and personnel mgmt.
 

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I think the point is that nobody in Dallas is making any football decisions without his approval. It was clear from the way Stephen was handling the phone that he had no authority to authorize or approve anything without looking to his right.

Maybe it was the right call, but even a broken clock is correct twice a day. When you make as many decisions as Jerry, some of them are going to be right.

An example of Jerry making a collaborative decision in a functional way on draft day isn’t evidence that he’s ruling football operations with an iron hand. But even if it were, it’s his team and that’s how it’s gonna be if that’s how he wants it.

Still, we just saw Stephen handle the Demarcus Lawrence negotiation pretty much entirely on his own. Things are changing slowly, it Jerry’s not giving up something like draft day until he can’t do it anymore. Draft Day is probably half the fun of owning an NFL team.

And why are we *****ing about this team’s drafting process anyway? They’ve been successful at the draft. Complain about Jerry undermining coaches or inviting players and coaches to come to him directly. That’s the stuff he does that hurt the team.
 

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An example of Jerry making a collaborative decision in a functional way on draft day isn’t evidence that he’s ruling football operations with an iron hand. But even if it were, it’s his team and that’s how it’s gonna be if that’s how he wants it.

Still, we just saw Stephen handle the Demarcus Lawrence negotiation pretty much entirely on his own. Things are changing slowly, it Jerry’s not giving up something like draft day until he can’t do it anymore. Draft Day is probably half the fun of owning an NFL team.

And why are we *****ing about this team’s drafting process anyway? They’ve been successful at the draft. Complain about Jerry undermining coaches or inviting players and coaches to come to him directly. That’s the stuff he does that hurt the team.
Also, you'd think a guy with McClay's reputation would go elsewhere if Jerry was that much of a dictator in the war room. He's gotten offers elsewhere to be GM, but he's already stated that "Jerry listens to us," multiple times.
 

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I think the point is that nobody in Dallas is making any football decisions without his approval. It was clear from the way Stephen was handling the phone that he had no authority to authorize or approve anything without looking to his right.

Maybe it was the right call, but even a broken clock is correct twice a day. When you make as many decisions as Jerry, some of them are going to be right.

Take a good look at this team's player personnel overall compared to the rest of the league. They're as good, if not better than virtually every team out there, top to bottom. That's the "broken clock" being right, and doing a good job.
 

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Take a good look at this team's player personnel overall compared to the rest of the league. They're as good, if not better than virtually every team out there, top to bottom. That's the "broken clock" being right, and doing a good job.
There’s a couple key positions we aren’t as good as the Elite teams we’re trying to pass.
 

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Also, you'd think a guy with McClay's reputation would go elsewhere if Jerry was that much of a dictator in the war room. He's gotten offers elsewhere to be GM, but he's already stated that "Jerry listens to us," multiple times.
I agree. It’s a mystery that he and Jason have stayed here. Remember Garrett had other offers early on as well.

Which leads me to believe Jerry provides security beyond what most organizations would provide as well as paying much or more.

And I believe he is listening to them on the most part. Maybe Jerry has promised the security along with much more after he’s done?
 

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I did specifically say overall. I’ll go up and down rosters with most any team in the league.
That could be misconstrued as to represent our roster is better than some of the better teams.

It’s better “ overall “ than most of the teams but not all.
 

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That could be misconstrued as to represent our roster is better than some of the better teams.

It’s better “ overall “ than most of the teams but not all.

Feel free to point out the better ones.

Fact is that your favorite punching bag has assembled as good of an overall roster as there is in this league.

Now it's up to the guy you constantly make excuses for to actually win with it.

Or he's fired.
 

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An example of Jerry making a collaborative decision in a functional way on draft day isn’t evidence that he’s ruling football operations with an iron hand. But even if it were, it’s his team and that’s how it’s gonna be if that’s how he wants it.

Still, we just saw Stephen handle the Demarcus Lawrence negotiation pretty much entirely on his own. Things are changing slowly, it Jerry’s not giving up something like draft day until he can’t do it anymore. Draft Day is probably half the fun of owning an NFL team.

And why are we *****ing about this team’s drafting process anyway? They’ve been successful at the draft. Complain about Jerry undermining coaches or inviting players and coaches to come to him directly. That’s the stuff he does that hurt the team.
I only hate that the grand kids are in the war room. Totally undermines the whole thing.
 

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Feel free to point out the better ones.

Fact is that your favorite punching bag has assembled as good of an overall roster as there is in this league.

Now it's up to the guy you constantly make excuses for to actually win with it.

Or he's fired.
If we had one of the more Elite QB’s in the league like in NE, NO, KC or LA ( all Final 4 teams) then I’d be more apt to agree and raise my expectations. There’s a few other QB’s who I’d also raise the bar here with.

But it’s going to be awful tough to overcome without an Elite coaching staff and top defense.
 

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If we had one of the more Elite QB’s in the league like in NE, NO, KC or LA ( all Final 4 teams) then I’d be more apt to agree and raise my expectations. There’s a few other QB’s who I’d also raise the bar here with.

I expected you to take a shot at the quarterback, but trying to use LA and Goff? That’s poor work even for you.

But it’s going to be awful tough to overcome without an Elite coaching staff and top defense.

Then your boy Garrett is as good as dead. No coaching staff that includes him will ever be “elite”.
 

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An example of Jerry making a collaborative decision in a functional way on draft day isn’t evidence that he’s ruling football operations with an iron hand. But even if it were, it’s his team and that’s how it’s gonna be if that’s how he wants it.

Still, we just saw Stephen handle the Demarcus Lawrence negotiation pretty much entirely on his own. Things are changing slowly, it Jerry’s not giving up something like draft day until he can’t do it anymore. Draft Day is probably half the fun of owning an NFL team.

And why are we *****ing about this team’s drafting process anyway? They’ve been successful at the draft. Complain about Jerry undermining coaches or inviting players and coaches to come to him directly. That’s the stuff he does that hurt the team.

So, its not the players with the drafting being so awesome. We can't complain about Jerry. Stephen is doing a great job, and you've made it very clear over the years that its not Garret's fault either. So to what would you attribute 23 years of futility and counting? Is there a water boy you begrudge?
 

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Yep.. Jerry has a history of making better decisions when he’s had greater influences. Like with Jimmy , Bill and now with Jason.

As much criticism as Garrett takes with his coaching our better drafts and personnel decisions can be documented back to when he took over in 2011 which included the promotion of Will McClay.

The more success those decisions have brought the more Jerry and Stephen listen to them. Remember Stephen was here all through the bad years too with some of those horrid drafts with Switzer, Gailey, Campo and Phillips and didn’t make the impact we had with Jimmy, Bill and Jason.

It’s time for Jason to receive his due not only in cultivating the culture improvement of this franchise but a bigger voice in the talent acquisition in his vision and personnel mgmt.

Wha? Jason in the same category as coaches who've won multiple super bowls? Thats a joke.

What the heck successes are you talking about? This team hasn't advanced past a divisional playoff game since 96'. Nobody in Big D gets credit for anything until they actually win something.
 
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