Why Cobb? His last 4 years were meh. Last year double meh

[buybuydandavis]

What I posted was a cut and paste from OverTheCap.

If you are looking at OTC on a phone, be sure to view it in landscape mode. They hide some columns when viewing in portrait from a mobile device.

You're right about OTC. Conflicts with spotrac. Don't know which is true, but it doesn't seem like us to guarantee 80%+ of LTBE.

From OTC
Fully Guaranteed Money: $4,000,000

Certainly changes the likelihood Cobb makes the team if we've basically prepaid Cobb's entire contract. But it doesn't make his numbers for the last 4 years any better.

 

[buybuydandavis]

So Cobb was meh the last four years.
But he put up roughly 2400 yards and 16 TDs.

Beasley put up roughly 2400 yards and 17 TD.

Only Cobb wanted less money and accepted less years. And he’s shown the ability to be more, because as you said his last four years were just meh compared to his early play. Beasley never once out together a top season like cobb has.

That’s why we signed him.

Coob took about 40 more targets to get those numbers.

 

[Redball Express]

*All* our returning TEs and WRs beat Cobb in yards per target last year. Even Rico and Noah.
He gets 40+ yards per game, but the efficiency per target was poor, and even his yardage totals have been consistently sliding for years.

People are talking like he's a lock for the team, and I don't see it in these numbers. He looks like a Nolan Carroll. We signed thinking to cover ourselves, but don't have to stick with him if other guys are panning out.

I'm hoping they get a discount out of Hurns and use him as our slot possession WR.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CobbRa00.htm

You are missing the point..

your slot receiver is never going to lead your team unless you are the Pats.

He is obviously a vet with experience they want around DAK.

They have other options with Austin if he recovers from his injury.

Zeke will get more passes than either Cobb or Witten.

Stop worrying.

 

[ShiningStar]

i cant believe it 2019 and we are still explaining this. Top to bottom, this fan base and FO loves "meh" for whatever reason, they love the antalytics of it, the drama, the up and down seasons, reading it on the board, this team loves "meh"

So many good safeties out there, our fans love Heath, Excited to have Witten back. half the base wants brad johnson back, they ll go boy band crazy if we do that. We just get excited over "meh" We signed Hyder, lords have mercy you thought we were bringing in Elvis Presley.

This was a fanbase that lost it over Dunbar, Rico, if you cant see the field or do anything on it, they will treat you like Kings and praise you. Just run forward, they will go estatic on you.

The bar is so low in Dallas, just walk over it and you my friend are a superstar.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, if you average out his numbers across the full season, he's going to give you 60+ catches assuming he is healthy. 60+ catches at 10 YPC, I'll take that from our slot WR. Heck, I'll take 50. That would be a great, great year for our slot guy. I mean, I'm sure it's been mentioned but we have a top 3 to 5 WR in the league in Cooper. We have one of the brightest young talents at WR in the league in Gallup, we literally have a HOF TE coming back, not to mention a Bell Cow RB, and does anybody really expect 70 catches from anybody who plays in the slot this year? Be serious ya'll.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

*All* our returning TEs and WRs beat Cobb in yards per target last year. Even Rico and Noah.
He gets 40+ yards per game, but the efficiency per target was poor, and even his yardage totals have been consistently sliding for years.

People are talking like he's a lock for the team, and I don't see it in these numbers. He looks like a Nolan Carroll. We signed thinking to cover ourselves, but don't have to stick with him if other guys are panning out.

I'm hoping they get a discount out of Hurns and use him as our slot possession WR.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CobbRa00.htm

Him and Witten easily my least favorite signings

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

His yards/reception the past 4 years are better than Beasley (11.0 vs 10.3) and better than Witten (11.0 vs 9.7).

Small Sample Size
Rico and Jarwin don't have enough catches for yards/reception to be meaningful.

Outside WR vs Slot WR
Cobb/ Beasley are slot WRs. Slot WRs have lower yards/reception than outside WRs.

Cobb was much better than Beasley earlier in his career and his "declining" years have still been better than both Beasley's career yards/reception and Beasley's past 4 years.

Beasley (past 4 years):
yards, receptions, average
2355, 228, 10.3

Cobb (past 4 years):
2675, 243, 11.0

Beasley (career):
3271, 319, 10.3

Cobb (career)
5524, 470, 11.8

yards/reception
Beasley
8.5 2012
9.4
11.4
10.3
11.1
8.7
10.3 2018

Cobb
15.0
11.9 2012
14
14.1
10.5
10.2
9.9
10.1 2018

He said yards per target, not yards per catch.
It's right there.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

He’s better than Beasley.

.

NFL GMs don't agree at all

 

[buybuydandavis]

You are missing the point..

your slot receiver is never going to lead your team unless you are the Pats.

He is obviously a vet with experience they want around DAK.

They have other options with Austin if he recovers from his injury.

Zeke will get more passes than either Cobb or Witten.

Stop worrying.

I'm not worrying. The point is we have less to worry about than usual. Our free agent insurance policy may not be necessary.

 

[erod]

Cobb is always hurt.

 

[bandfan]

There is not a kernel of truth to that.....

 

[nyc-cowboy]

Jimmy Garropolo is making 17X more than dak! BUT THERE MUST BE A REASON RIGHT?!

Apples to watermelons.....

Cobb is 28 and Cole is 30 yet Cole got a 4 year contract worth $29 mil with like 14 mil guaranteed, and Cobb...not so much...

There is a reason for that.

 

[Rogerthat12]

There is not a kernel of truth to that.....

Cobbin it....

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Jimmy Garropolo is making 17X more than dak! BUT THERE MUST BE A REASON RIGHT?!

Want to make a bet on who makes more between Jimmy and Dak after this season?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Now do yards per *target*.
Except for 2017, when Beasley was the guy getting doubled, Beasley was better on yards per target, and significantly.

And the quality of targets between Cobb and Beasley is quite significant..... to say the least.

Crazy that the concept of your OP has gone over the heads of so many. Not surprised though.

 

[TheGoat73]

That's a big part of it, and also to improve the abysmal red zone numbers. Nobody should forget that we were among the worst in the league in that area and it was a key reason for the team's struggles. More than anything else, that's what Garrett and Moore are tasked with changing and improving.

Having two seasoned vets in Cobb and Witten to help the young quarterback is a nice start. As is getting your All-Pro center back in the middle.

Having the best RB in the NFL and a poor red zone success rate is maddening. I agree.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

So, you're saying, "He left a lot of corn on the Cobb?" .. as opposed to meat on the bone?

I think we need a rimshot emoji for jokes like this.

 

[romonumberone]

Cobb is a big name..... but the production in Green Bay is a lot different than here with a different role. Players putting up gaudy stats is more about the opportunities and the targets and touches.

 

[links18]

Umm, because he was cheap?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Having the best RB in the NFL and a poor red zone success rate is maddening. I agree.

Agreed. His regression has been part of our team regression in the red zone.

We can put to rest Zeke being the king of getting "dirty yards".