Release Hurns and extend Cooper

[ColoradoCowboy]

I have a different view on the outlook of the salary cap than you do.

I see it more beneficial for the future to give star players large cap hits earlier in their contract rather than later.

This way we can afford to keep new talent in the later years while still keeping big name talent on the roster.

Pay Cooper off early rather than later.

Seems to be a better strategy in staying out of cap hell.

That is an incredibly foolish way to manage the cap. This method hamstrings your ability to maneuver under the cap in the short term and gains you NOTHING in the long term other than holdouts and over paying again.

Let's just say that we sign Cooper to a 7 year $100 million deal with $70 million coming in the first three years and $30 million in the last 4. Cooper is 24. At 27, his career "prime", his salary would suddenly be WAY less than average for his position. His agent would be telling him every freaking day to hold out. Eventually, he would.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The topic has been discussed by Helman and Eatman, maybe a couple of months ago(?), and they were both persuaded that Hurns will end up being offered a renegotiation before he would ever be released. Everyone loved him before the injury. And all the more on this side of it.

What did Hurns accomplish last year as a Cowboy? 20 receptions for only 295 yards and 2 TDS. You believe that kind of production is worth paying $5 million to keep? I don't .

Hurns is a JAG. Cut him and save those $5 million on the cap for other use like helping secure Amari Cooper's new contract.

 

[charron]

You can structure it to take the hit whenever. Most deals are structured to get relief now and pay later due to higher cap raises. But if we can afford to take a big hit now it makes sense rather than having extra cap for nothing.

I get that. That's flaws deal. But DLaw was also a free agent and coop is not. If you want to do that then let him play for 14 this year then tag him and sign him next year.

 

[ItzKelz]

Cutting Hurns would free up $5 million in cap space and would allow for some additional cap space for extending Cooper.

Give Cooper a larger cap hit this year in order to lower his cap hit for the next 4-5 years.

We saw what he did for this team last year.

He's worth it.

Get a deal done asap.

No one else is getting an extension until Dak gets his 36 mil a year contract.

 

[CB61]

I would try to renegotiate hurns contract before his injury he was starting to come on and he may open up other opportunities for Cooper unless of course we find someone that can do that and also we don't know what hurns will be after the injury ?? We may have to wait to see how other receivers play out Michael Gallup could also be that guy he is starting to grow as well

 

[CB61]

I would try to renegotiate hurns contract before his injury he was starting to come on and he may open up other opportunities for Cooper unless of course we find someone that can do that and also we don't know what hurns will be after the injury ?? We may have to wait to see how other receivers play out Michael Gallup could also be that guy he is starting to grow as well

I guess a better way of saying what I just said would be let's see how camp Plays out

 

[JW82]

Don’t stress on this. Coop isn’t going anywhere.

 

[cowboyfan4lyfe]

I want to see what Cooper, Hurns, Gallup and Cobb can do as a unit. No need to get cute and weaken that right now. Injuries happen. See Hurns!

I agree, this team has too many fans that think they are GM's. Get your resumes ready the Giants will be taking apps soon

 

[Nightman]

LOL

I would love to see the list of players we cut and the stars we didn't sign to extensions during these supposed Cap Hell years

I remember giving huge contracts to TRomo, MBIII, TSmith, TFred, DFree, Kosier, MColumbo, JWitten, TO, Dez, MAustin, RWilliams11, DWare, JRatliff, MSpears, ASpencer, SLee, GHardy, HMelton, BCarr, TNewman, KHamlin, BChurch, OScandrick, RWilliams31, TCrawford, DBailey, DLaw, ZMartin

 

[Nightman]

Bingo!!!! this also why I think he's a 53 player keeper

AHurns was misused as an outside #1 WR...... he had his best years in the Slot with JAX

He is a mismatch inside and a big slot can be a big advantage in the Red Zone

 

[JoeKing]

Cutting Hurns would free up $5 million in cap space and would allow for some additional cap space for extending Cooper.

Give Cooper a larger cap hit this year in order to lower his cap hit for the next 4-5 years.

We saw what he did for this team last year.

He's worth it.

Get a deal done asap.

This is the opinion of a fan out of touch with the locker room. Hurns is loved by his team mates and coaches. Robbing from Allen to pay Amari may seem like a good idea to some but I'm not sold. Not doing it won't prevent the Cowboys from resigning Amari. Allen may end up earning that money you want to take from him in 2019, then how smart will you feel?

Amari Cooper having a 1st round draft selection invested in him shows the Cowboys understand his value. It's a no brainer that he will get re-signed. It's only a matter of time. Amari is on the record that his focus is on being the best WR he can be and not on his new contract. He has an agent to take care of that.

 

[TwentyOne]

It was this kind of thinking that kept the front office in cap hell for many years.

Paying more up front gives front offices flexibility later in contract years in the event a player has declined and needs to be released.

Nothing worse than having to let a declining veteran or unable to stay healthy veteran go and be forced to pay said player for two years after retirement (example Tony Romo).

Another reason why I am completely against restructures of contracts. You free up cap space for that year but push it down to the next cap year hit and it hits twice as hard.

You did not understand what i mean. This has nothing to do with backladden deals.

To give contracts to players this year doesnt mean you safe money.

 

[glimmerman]

Wondering if there won’t be a injury settlement for Hurns. That was a nasty looking injury. Maybe he can make it back but it’s gonna be tough.

 

[jrumann59]

I am honestly in shock Hurns is still around. I guess they feel sorry for him or something.

My guess is the FO brought him to be a #1 and he was not most of us here knew that but that #1 by committee last year pretty much caused a lot of issues. Maybe they feel he can be a solid #2/#3 and they are not doing that rotate WR in based on formations like they did early on. Right now I have no issue with havin g him on the team. But if the other guys out play him or he can't recover then I am all for getting rid of him.

 

[BigCatMonaco]

I never understood the excitement over signing Hurns and I wouldn't care if Dallas released him. He didn't bring much to the table before his injury and I expect even less from him now. Find a better use for the roster spot.

He was as a thousand yard Receiver with Blake friggin bortles

 

[BigCatMonaco]

He was as a thousand yard Receiver with Blake friggin bortles

I never understood the excitement over signing Hurns and I wouldn't care if Dallas released him. He didn't bring much to the table before his injury and I expect even less from him now. Find a better use for the roster spot.

For comparison, Beasley could never get near 1000 with romo.

 

[Future]

Coopers contract isn’t done because they don’t have money lol.

Yes they do.

They're ~$5m under the cap right now and any Cooper extension is going to lower his cap hit. They're fine.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yes they do.

They're ~$5m under the cap right now and any Cooper extension is going to lower his cap hit. They're fine.

I typed that wrong. The OP eluded to the reason why the contract isn't done because they don't have money so they should release Hurns. I was saying the reason his contract isn't done has nothing to do with Turns.

 

[J12B]

He was as a thousand yard Receiver with Blake friggin bortles

That was mainly because the Jaguars did nothing but throw the ball that year and most of his production came in garbage time.

 

[Nightman]

Yes they do.

They're ~$5m under the cap right now and any Cooper extension is going to lower his cap hit. They're fine.

DAL is almost 20m under the cap

Extending ACooper will create another 5-8m in cap space this year