Release Hurns and extend Cooper

[Corso]

I am honestly in shock Hurns is still around. I guess they feel sorry for him or something.

Poor guy... let's give him a couple more millions.

 

[Jake]

I never understood the excitement over signing Hurns and I wouldn't care if Dallas released him. He didn't bring much to the table before his injury and I expect even less from him now. Find a better use for the roster spot.

 

[conner01]

Why would they have picked up Hurns option to keep him, only to release him to take a cap hit to supposedly save cap money. If they had no plans for him, they would have just let him go then.
And as posted above, I did see something a few months ago, they thought the team would approach Hurns to extend his deal by a year. May have been a reporters speculation though.

Hurns is still a good player in spite of what the internet GM ‘s say on here.

Here is a great rule of thumb....they are internet GM’s for a reason...

I think they like Hurns and signing cooper has nothing to do with Hurns
But we are loaded at WR so I wouldn’t be surprised if they moved on from one of the vets if one of the young guys do well in camp

 

[lkelly]

I am honestly in shock Hurns is still around. I guess they feel sorry for him or something.

Roster spots right now are like beers at the beginning of a frat party. They are seem limitless, so there's no crunch there.

His impact on the cap isn't that important right now. It becomes more important once the season starts. He's also insurance should there be a rash of injuries. There's nothing preventing a renegotiation at the 11th hour. He's basically a refundable deposit on a beach trip that you might not take, and you'll likely have the house owner desperate come August when they don't have anyone to rent to at the last minute.

And who knows, maybe he shows something in the preseason to prove he's healthy and another team that's short on the position due to injuries or a crap draft class decides to throw a 7th your way.

 

[J12B]

You can always roll over cap space to the next year. So to give anybody a frontladden deal is essentially meaningless.

It was this kind of thinking that kept the front office in cap hell for many years.

Paying more up front gives front offices flexibility later in contract years in the event a player has declined and needs to be released.

Nothing worse than having to let a declining veteran or unable to stay healthy veteran go and be forced to pay said player for two years after retirement (example Tony Romo).

Another reason why I am completely against restructures of contracts. You free up cap space for that year but push it down to the next cap year hit and it hits twice as hard.

 

[Nightman]

You can always roll over cap space to the next year. So to give anybody a frontladden deal is essentially meaningless.

It is paying Dead Money in the first year instead of after the last year ...... bass ackwards

 

[Nightman]

It was this kind of thinking that kept the front office in cap hell for many years.

Paying more up front gives front offices flexibility later in contract years in the event a player has declined and needs to be released.

Nothing worse than having to let a declining veteran or unable to stay healthy veteran go and be forced to pay said player for two years after retirement (example Tony Romo).

Another reason why I am completely against restructures of contracts. You free up cap space for that year but push it down to the next cap year hit and it hits twice as hard.

We were never in Cap Hell

Everything you say is the wrong way to look at things

Paying Dead Money in the first year is stupid and the player will feel underpaid in the later years... they never remember the past bonuses

 

[J12B]

We were never in Cap Hell

Everything you say is the wrong way to look at things

Paying Dead Money in the first year is stupid and the player will feel underpaid in the later years... they never remember the past bonuses

Players receive a majority of their guaranteed money at signing. So not sure how you can make your argument that players feel underpaid later on.

I'm specifically talking about cap hits.

 

[Nightman]

Players receive a majority of their guaranteed money at signing. So not sure how you can make your argument that players feel underpaid later on.

I'm specifically talking about cap hits.

If you frontload a contract the team will have 3 years of cheap base salaries and no guaranteed money left

The player will not like that at all.... they will look at their tiny 6m base salary and forget they got a 30m signing bonus and a 14m base salary year one

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I believe they can cut him at any time before the season starts so there was no reason not to pick up his option. If we get some unfortunate injuries in training camp it might be good to have him around.

Bingo!!!! this also why I think he's a 53 player keeper

 

[Number1]

Cutting Hurns would free up $5 million in cap space and would allow for some additional cap space for extending Cooper.

Give Cooper a larger cap hit this year in order to lower his cap hit for the next 4-5 years.

We saw what he did for this team last year.

He's worth it.

Get a deal done asap.

that's bad idea until we see what can be done with Gallup, Wilson, and Guyton

 

[Alexander]

Roster spots right now are like beers at the beginning of a frat party. They are seem limitless, so there's no crunch there.

His impact on the cap isn't that important right now. It becomes more important once the season starts. He's also insurance should there be a rash of injuries. There's nothing preventing a renegotiation at the 11th hour. He's basically a refundable deposit on a beach trip that you might not take, and you'll likely have the house owner desperate come August when they don't have anyone to rent to at the last minute.

And who knows, maybe he shows something in the preseason to prove he's healthy and another team that's short on the position due to injuries or a crap draft class decides to throw a 7th your way.

Dallas never markets talent like that. And he has a contract in place. Nobody is trading for that.

 

[Doomsay]

We were never in Cap Hell

LOL

 

[buybuydandavis]

They have 0 reason to cut hurns today.

Word is that they plan on asking Hurns to take a pay cut. I hope they extend him at reduced pay. He got very productive per target after week 6. Big possession WR for the red zone and 3rd downs. Something we lack.

 

[HungryLion]

I am honestly in shock Hurns is still around. I guess they feel sorry for him or something.

I’m not really shocked by it.

Hurns didn’t play well last year. But his salary is
Not guaranteed. So there is no reason to not still have him on the roster, because they can’t cut him
Anytime before game 1 and it doesn’t cost them a penny.

The only way it would make sense to cut Hurns earlier than that, would be if they needed the cap space immediately to make another move. But they don’t. So why not see how he bounces back in training camp.

 

[NorthTexan95]

Bingo!!!! this also why I think he's a 53 player keeper

I think injury is the only way Hurns stays on the team.

 

[Reality]

Release the Hurns!

 

[Cowboys1fan]

They have 0 reason to cut hurns today. Extending Cooper likely reduces his cap impact this year anyway so hurns's deal does not affect that regardless.

You can structure it to take the hit whenever. Most deals are structured to get relief now and pay later due to higher cap raises. But if we can afford to take a big hit now it makes sense rather than having extra cap for nothing.

 

[Gremell12]

Pay him!!

 

[DHCBF66]

I have a different view on the outlook of the salary cap than you do.

I see it more beneficial for the future to give star players large cap hits earlier in their contract rather than later.

This way we can afford to keep new talent in the later years while still keeping big name talent on the roster.

Pay Cooper off early rather than later.

Seems to be a better strategy in staying out of cap hell.

That method did not work for the Vikes when they reigned AP. As soon as AP got all his guaranteed $$$ and his cap hi was peanuts he wanted more guaranteed $$$ or he was going to hold out!