Dak & Wentz are not on same level

[Diehardblues]

and I think his passing skills will improve. I'm not one who thinks this is as good as he will ever be. I'm looking forward to seeing Dak working with Kitna and of course Moore this coming season

Then your basing some of your thoughts on what you haven’t seen yet?

 

[Diehardblues]

"IF" Wentz was healthy, I really have no doubt he would be a better passing QB. But the very reason I lean toward Prescott is durability. Yeah, he's not a elite thrower and maybe never will be, but I for one was very tired of cringing every time our QB got blasted ultimately left on the sideline hurting the team.

This is an honest and fair assessment.

 

[Rayman70]

Then your basing some of your thoughts on what you haven’t seen yet?

QB unfortunately IS one of those unique positions that get projected a whole lot..."potential" ...that nasty word again lol. QB gets way over paid and valued based off what THEY WILL DO. I hate it,but thats how the position is.

 

[dwreck27]

Lol at thinking Wentz makes 30mill a year... His agent knows Wentz should be paid top money... if they don’t? A couple of franchise tags at top QB money before getting maybe even closer to 40mill in a few seasons

 

[Rayman70]

This is an honest and fair assessment.

well Foles led the iggles when it mattered most and won a ring. Wentz' potential matters not if he cant be ready to play when it matters...just sayin.

 

[Doomsday101]

Then your basing some of your thoughts on what you haven’t seen yet?

I said I think they will help him we will have to see. I'm sorry I do not walk about thinking everything is bad until proven otherwise. Jon Kitna has a lot of experience as a QB and I think he just may be able to help Dak. If you feel different that is fine.

 

[Rayman70]

Dak has 1 thing going for him...his durability.He is gaining valuable NFL experience the more he plays. Much can be said for this. Wentz, not so much.

 

[Rayman70]

What if the iggles are wrong and Wentz was the wrong choice to keep instead of Foles? Just askin… WOULDN'T that be grand? lol... Think about it guys. They let a guy go that almost led them to another SB appearance last year in Foles. The guy proved he can rally men and lead them. Wentz cant stay off the training table and doesn't seem to be able to rally the troops. Time will tell what was the right move. Dak has proven to be a 4th round steal in 2016.

 

[tyke1doe]

Every player and commentator outside of Dallas or on the Cowboys will tell you that Wentz is a better quarterback than Dak. The advantage Dak has is he's been healthy. Based on the best ability is availability, then, sure Dak is better than Wentz. But if the experts who've played the game say Wentz is better than Dak, I'm going with them.
Besides, this argument is always cyclical. When Dak gets an advantage, posters come on this forum and crow about how he's better. But they were strangely silent when Wentz was leading his team to the best record in the NFL until he got hurt.
When both are healthy, Wentz is the better quarterback. But Dak has the better offense - the better help, if you will.

 

[Rayman70]

Every player and commentator outside of Dallas or on the Cowboys will tell you that Wentz is a better quarterback than Dak. The advantage Dak has is he's been healthy. Based on the best ability is availability, then, sure Dak is better than Wentz. But if the experts who've played the game say Wentz is better than Dak, I'm going with them.
Besides, this argument is always cyclical. When Dak gets an advantage, posters come on this forum and crow about how he's better. But they were strangely silent when Wentz was leading his team to the best record in the NFL until he got hurt.
When both are healthy, Wentz is the better quarterback. But Dak has the better offense - the better help, if you will.

Aikman doesn't seem to think so...so I don't think its that Unanimous at all.

 

[BigCatMonaco]

That’s a comparison of their stats . My thoughts are more about their passing talent and potential.

It’s like comparing Daks wins to Brady’s . It’s not a comparison of their passing ability.

However, on an almost identical number of passing snaps it’s not so drastic.

Wentz would need to complete his next 27 passes for 26.8 yards each completion to match daks yardage on the exact same number of throws. So does the arm talent being “different levels” matter when the one who’s being sold as a lesser passer does better passing the ball?

 

[DFWJC]

Guess we'll see.

Not sure thread # 550 on the same topic makes a difference on the matter

 

[BigCatMonaco]

923/1448
10,152 yards
70 TD
28 INT

VS

975/1475
10,876 yards
67 TD
25 INT

and that before factoring on anything other than pure passing statistics. Tell me objectively how one is viewed as leagues higher as a pure passer?

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

Define "upside".............if being injury prone and non-clutch is upside then yes I believe Wince does have more upside.

Also, if people are of the belief that Dak has a lot of areas to improve in as a passer, doesn’t that mean he has more upside? He already has better numbers than Wentz, just imagine once Dak refines his weaknesses.

 

[Rayman70]

923/1448
10,152 yards
70 TD
28 INT

VS

975/1475
10,876 yards
67 TD
25 INT

and that before factoring on anything other than pure passing statistics. Tell me objectively how one is viewed as leagues higher as a pure passer?

great post. KUDOS. Cannot tell which is which. Its all about perspective and perception. The Sports media,goes to show you, controls all that.

 

[Kaiser]

"IF" Wentz was healthy, I really have no doubt he would be a better passing QB. But the very reason I lean toward Prescott is durability. Yeah, he's not a elite thrower and maybe never will be, but I for one was very tired of cringing every time our QB got blasted ultimately left on the sideline hurting the team.

Durability, leadership and running ability are advantages for Dak but passing accuracy and consistency are advantages for Wentz. But Dak has shown he improves in key areas of his game, so even if both stay healthy the Wentz advantages may not be that different between them in the future.

 

[G2]

Durability, leadership and running ability are advantages for Dak but passing accuracy and consistency are advantages for Wentz. But Dak has shown he improves in key areas of his game, so even if both stay healthy the Wentz advantages may not be that different between them in the future.

Yep, no reason to assume Prescott is maxed out. I think he'll improve all around.

 

[Kaiser]

Also, if people are of the belief that Dak has a lot of areas to improve in as a passer, doesn’t that mean he has more upside? He already has better numbers than Wentz, just imagine once Dak refines his weaknesses.

True, also Percy has posted the numbers that Dak is dramatically better when he has time to throw. That is true for all QBs, but given time in the pocket I would bet the differences between Dak and Wentz aren't that much.

 

[Rayman70]

923/1448
10,152 yards
70 TD
28 INT

VS

975/1475
10,876 yards
67 TD
25 INT

and that before factoring on anything other than pure passing statistics. Tell me objectively how one is viewed as leagues higher as a pure passer?

^^^^THIS^^^^ is the facts. Like I said previously...Give me Dak. Of course I am a Dak homer...but this guy doesn't fit the faux narrative that he can't pass and isn't a pure passer. ^^^^THAT^^^ above stat line blows this out of the water.

 

[BigCatMonaco]

923/1448
10,152 Yards
70 TD
28 INT
4 FQC
4 GWD

794/1252
9,950 Yards
72 TD
26 INT
7 FQC
12 GWD

975/1475
10,876 Yards
67 TD
25 INT
8 FQC
14 GWD

772/1243
9,581 Yards
65 TD
26 INT
5 FQC
5 GWD

Strictly passing numbers over four QBs first three seasons.


One of them is wentz
One of them is Goff
One of them is Russell Wilson
One of them is dak