News: 5 Worst Contracts for 2019 Dallas Cowboys

[CCBoy]

I'm saying more coaches than Linehan have had Austin only to fail to unlock the potential. You can slice it any way you want, the proof is in the production. Not just one year, but his whole career. Fool's gold until proven otherwise.

He's good as long as he is able to be on the carpet. That has been shown, recently...and he was productive when active. At least with the Cowboys.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

He's good as long as he is able to be on the carpet. That has been shown, recently...and he was productive when active. At least with the Cowboys.

I like the guy, you can clearly see he has some juice. But he's never realized his potential - through his fault or not. And with the depth now at WR, he hasn't produced enough to say he's a no-doubter. He's squarely on the bubble and should be.

 

[CCBoy]

I like the guy, you can clearly see he has some juice. But he's never realized his potential - through his fault or not. And with the depth now at WR, he hasn't produced enough to say he's a no-doubter. He's squarely on the bubble and should be.

I don't argue against your point...valid. He won't be a high chip player, even if retained for this season. But he can be a strong influence, if available for games even yet.

 

[Beaker42]

Crawford's contract is one of our better as he is a captain and a work horse

Umm, not so much. He’s like Spears in that I can’t wait for him to no longer be a Cowboy.

 

[Stash]

Roster spots will be at a premium and players running from the Turk, this Training Camp.

I agree. Most well-stocked roster as I can remember in a long time.

 

[Stash]

I'm saying more coaches than Linehan have had Austin only to fail to unlock the potential. You can slice it any way you want, the proof is in the production. Not just one year, but his whole career. Fool's gold until proven otherwise.

Your opinion has been duly noted. I'm eager to see what he might do with more opportunities and play time. I concede that the sample size from 2018 was small, but I also admit that he did a lot with the opportunities he did get.

Are you ultimately saying that you would just cut Austin?

 

[Stash]

He's good as long as he is able to be on the carpet. That has been shown, recently...and he was productive when active. At least with the Cowboys.

That's all I'm saying. When he got the opportunities? He produced.

 

[Stash]

I like the guy, you can clearly see he has some juice. But he's never realized his potential - through his fault or not. And with the depth now at WR, he hasn't produced enough to say he's a no-doubter. He's squarely on the bubble and should be.

I don't argue that. But I don't see anyone saying Austin is "a lock", do you?

 

[Little Jr]

as a 10.1 cap hit he ranks high up there for DT's which he is. i believe top 15 with cheapy choppy production. You've been talking to nightman to long

If you put him in as a 4-3 dt he his 9 with his cap hit and 10 with his avg annual. Doesn't really change much in my argument because the same players he's around just as a DT, he's around in the top 40 paid overall dl. Just eliminates some .

Including Crawford, there are 5 who make 9-10m. Mailik Jackson is clearly better in both sacks and tackles with 18 and 130 to Crawford's 14 and 89 over the past 3 years. Snacks dominates him in tackles with 157 to Crawford's 89 but Crawford dominates him in sacks with 14 to 5. Poe and Crawford are close in tackles with 83 for poe and 89 for Crawford. Crawford dominates him on sacks 14 to 5. Star is dominated by Crawford on both sacks and tackles. 89-68 and 14 to 5.5.

So besides Jackson, It's not much difference in production compared to pay. I'm sure there are ones who make less that have more production but ones who make more with similar or less production. 4 years ago when he signed the contract, it was too much. But like all contracts, 4 years later it isn't as bad, and in this case, not bad at all.

 

[Stash]

Umm, not so much. He’s like Spears in that I can’t wait for him to no longer be a Cowboy.

Ouch!

And that call ME a harsh Crawford critic!

 

[Stash]

If you put him in as a 4-3 dt he his 9 with his cap hit and 10 with his avg annual. Doesn't really change much in my argument because the same players he's around just as a DT, he's around in the top 40 paid overall dl. Just eliminates some .

Including Crawford, there are 5 who make 9-10m. Mailik Jackson is clearly better in both sacks and tackles with 18 and 130 to Crawford's 14 and 89 over the past 3 years. Snacks dominates him in tackles with 157 to Crawford's 89 but Crawford dominates him in sacks with 14 to 5. Poe and Crawford are close in tackles with 83 for poe and 89 for Crawford. Crawford dominates him on sacks 14 to 5. Star is dominated by Crawford on both sacks and tackles. 89-68 and 14 to 5.5.

So besides Jackson, It's not much difference in production compared to pay. I'm sure there are ones who make less that have more production but ones who make more with similar or less production. 4 years ago when he signed the contract, it was too much. But like all contracts, 4 years later it isn't as bad, and in this case, not bad at all.

So you compare him to 1T run stuffing defensive tackles so that his sack numbers look inflated? Talk about "fun with numbers'! Yeesh!

See @Hennessy_King , this is EXACTLY what I warned you about!

 

[Little Jr]

Nothing could be worse than you not knowing what you were talking about, as you grudgingly admitted here.

And I'll add that Jack Crawford outperformed Tyron at 1/3rd of the price.

Admitting I misread,misunderstood or was wrong isn't a bad thing. As much as you are wrong and get proven wrong over and over again in MANY threads, you should try it sometimes.

 

[Stash]

Admitting I misread,misunderstood or was wrong isn't a bad thing. As much as you are wrong and get proven wrong over and over again in MANY threads, you should try it sometimes.

And you think you did that with class?

Read your post again, until you get it right.

Even now, you can't handle it, and instead try to take a shot at me where the opportunity doesn't even exist.

Classy.

Heed your own advice before you try to hand any out to anyone else.

 

[marius]

the cowboys need to cut Hurns and Crawford after 1 June, no longer need they, a waste of money. they can save 11 mil with both cuts.

 

[jrumann59]

For what it's worth, "fool's gold", was having a career year last season before his injury, despite how little the creatively-challenged Scott Linehan bothered using him.

that has been Austin's Career, he shows how electric he is and bang he misses a ton of time and is not the same. I mean who here thinks that groin healed right, it pulled off the bone and did not have surgery to fix it...

 

[Stash]

that has been Austin's Career, he shows how electric he is and bang he misses a ton of time and is not the same. I mean who here thinks that groin healed right, it pulled off the bone and did not have surgery to fix it...

I was worried about that situation too, but then he cam back and lit up that Seattle playoff game, clearly showing zero ill effects. But given this stacked depth chart, Austin can't afford to miss any time. If that happens, the train won't wait and he'll be left behind and off this roster.

 

[Hennessy_King]

If you put him in as a 4-3 dt he his 9 with his cap hit and 10 with his avg annual. Doesn't really change much in my argument because the same players he's around just as a DT, he's around in the top 40 paid overall dl. Just eliminates some .

Including Crawford, there are 5 who make 9-10m. Mailik Jackson is clearly better in both sacks and tackles with 18 and 130 to Crawford's 14 and 89 over the past 3 years. Snacks dominates him in tackles with 157 to Crawford's 89 but Crawford dominates him in sacks with 14 to 5. Poe and Crawford are close in tackles with 83 for poe and 89 for Crawford. Crawford dominates him on sacks 14 to 5. Star is dominated by Crawford on both sacks and tackles. 89-68 and 14 to 5.5.

So besides Jackson, It's not much difference in production compared to pay. I'm sure there are ones who make less that have more production but ones who make more with similar or less production. 4 years ago when he signed the contract, it was too much. But like all contracts, 4 years later it isn't as bad, and in this case, not bad at all.

So, he should have more sacks and stats than space eating 1t's. You are talking apples and oranges here. Malik jackson I think was the only DT that didn't play in a 3-4 as a run stopper. So let me ask you. Do you want to grade him against other DT's or other DE's? You can't say hey lets see he plays guard and tackle let's grade him on both. It's counterproductive and muddies the water. You guys need to pick one and IDC which cuz it will look bad either way. BTW Crawford had a career high in sacks with 5.5 last season lol.

 

[Hennessy_King]

So you compare him to 1T run stuffing defensive tackles so that his sack numbers look inflated? Talk about "fun with numbers'! Yeesh!

See @Hennessy_King , this is EXACTLY what I warned you about!

The defenders of jags are all the same.

 

[Stash]

The defenders of jags are all the same.

It's one thing to be loyal to your team and players, I get that and we all do it to some degree, but it's another to cross over into denial of the obvious and resorting to fabrication.

 

[Hennessy_King]

It's one thing to be loyal to your team and players, I get that and we all do it to some degree, but it's another to cross over into denial of the obvious and resorting to fabrication.

I feel like I need to smoke or eat an edible to be able to understand them