Dak-Deniers/Fact Haters, What Will Dak Have to Do for You to Eat Crow?

[JBS]

OP it’s impossible. This is a run-first time-of-possession style offense. Dak is never going to throw for 5000 yards and 50 TDs. Mahomes and Rodgers wouldn’t do that here either.

Dak already dominates the stat sheet in most every category, including wins. And a Super Bowl win still won’t stop the haters; they’ll say Zeke or the defense carries him.

So, sorry to say, the haters gonna hate.

That's a pretty strong level of stupid...glad that's not me

 

[anava]

OP it’s impossible. This is a run-first time-of-possession style offense. Dak is never going to throw for 5000 yards and 50 TDs. Mahomes and Rodgers wouldn’t do that here either.

Dak already dominates the stat sheet in most every category, including wins. And a Super Bowl win still won’t stop the haters; they’ll say Zeke or the defense carries him.

So, sorry to say, the haters gonna hate.

Hate the word hate when it comes to any fan for any player. By definition we are all fans and hope he does well, just have our doubts. He is paid millions to silence the doubters, I honestly think he is getting close but he isn’t there yet. Every “hater” hopes he does well because we want the team to do well.

Giant game was decent example but want on a consistent basis in meaningful games. I think most of us went in that game almost wanting a loss to hurt the giants draft position. Of course by the end of the game all the true fandom came out in an exciting game, even against a bad team.

 

[TheSkaven]

There are no Dak haters here. I'm sure EVERYONE thinks he's a swell dude.
. Your problem isn't so called Dak haters. It's you can't handle valad criticism.

What valid criticism? I have yet to read a post with meaningful fact-based criticism. You pick the category. Wins. Comeback wins. Completion percentage. Yards per completion. Rushing touchdowns. TD to INT ratio. It goes on and on.

Even the sacks he has taken (holds the ball too long) is a phantom argument - he takes less sacks and less fumble/sacks than Wentz, for example.

I would love to see someone criticize Dak with a fact-based argument.

 

[JBS]

Hate the word hate when it comes to any fan for any player. By definition we are all fans and hope he does well, just have our doubts. He is paid millions to silence the doubters, I honestly think he is getting close but he isn’t there yet. Every “hater” hopes he does well because we want the team to do well.

Giant game was decent example but want on a consistent basis in meaningful games. I think most of us went in that game almost wanting a loss to hurt the giants draft position. Of course by the end of the game all the true fandom came out in an exciting game, even against a bad team.

He put the team on his back vs the eagles too...it got to the point where dak had to score every possession late in the game to win it...and he did

 

[anava]

He put the team on his back vs the eagles too...it got to the point where dak had to score every possession late in the game to win it...and he did

I’ll give you the giants game but the eagles game is what I was talking about initially, so inept mist of the game had to pull it out in the 4th. And if I remember correctly they had backups in most of the game. That is a game I’d hope he’d learn to dominate and not make close. Defense started out strong until a see-saw 4th

 

[Kevinicus]

Not that you really want an answer...

He would simply need to play better.

Get better with his pocket awareness.
Improve his pocket movement and mechanics in general.
Stop being so gunshy.
Drastically improve his anticipation/spatial awareness.
Improve his accuracy.

That'd be a good start.

What would it take for you, and others like you, to have doubt that he is the QB this team needs?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Philly at Dallas last year Is another good example

A mauled philly defense having DB from the parking lot the day before......what happened when a healthy Philly came to town when Zeke was out?
Ya we don't wanna go there do we now?
Lets live in Dak Dream land ......

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You should know that you’re considered a joke here.

Especially someone who post Romo with Aikman and Staubach....... Romo didn't win anything so it makes sense that he is just upset that Dak took over for Romo and didn't give the job back.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

The only debate and using your words complaining is when it pertains to DAK?
Now Mr.Rockport why is that?

Why aren't there threads debating the talents of Zeke,Coop,Byron,LVE,Martin,Fred,Jaylong, etc etc etc.....
I'll say it one more time......Why are there exclusively doubts here if Mr. Prescott is the real deal?

Why?????....we'll there's doubt and your answer to this fact is that there all Haters.
You get the idea but then again knowing your DAK First team second philosophy who knows and we really don't care as we have eyes and can see a inept QB who is unworthy of leading America's team to anywhere but maybe a FG attempt!

The problem with your statement that Dak only leads us to FG attempts is so far from the truth is laughable. Much like everything you write about Dak.

You realize that only 3 QBs in the history of the NFL have thrown for at least 22 passing TDs every year in their first 3 years of their career and Dak is one of them.

 

[DandyDon52]

I had to take the offseason off of this place because I'm a pragmatist: I go with what works.

Dak Prescott as the Dallas Cowboys quarterback works.

And the numbers prove it.

Numbers are facts, to me at least. Most stats can tell you something in the context of the team... Dak has the stats of a winner. He wins. He's proven that.

So, I get tired of arguing with people who think Dak's a loser — for whatever reason.

That facts are, almost every single statistic you point at proves he's not.

So, what would Dake have to do in 2019 for all of the Dak-hating, fact-denying quarterback know-it-alls to eat crow on Dak being a legit quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys?

I was Romo's first fan. I loved watching him play. But I'm happy to be moving forward with Dak.

What would he have to do to make you happy?

LOL win 3 SB's in a row, 2 isnt enough !
and also at least 2 videos, of him walking on water he he.

 

[DandyDon52]

The problem with your statement that Dak only leads us to FG attempts is so far from the truth is laughable. Much like everything you write about Dak.

You realize that only 3 QBs in the history of the NFL have thrown for at least 22 passing TDs every year in their first 3 years of their career and Dak is one of them.

Well who are the other 2??????? just curious.
I have been watching some 1990 and 91 cowboy games, and aikman was not only same as dak and maybe worse, but he could not finish either season!
He was like wentz get hurt and out for the season. or large part of end.
It was in 92 in his 4th year? that he became a great qb , and with addition of hailey and few others the team jelled.
Also coaching was not all that great in 90 or 91, and most of the SB players were already there.
People forget all that and just rave on the team that won the SB's , and even then give way too much credit to the triplet's.

 

[12+88=7]

Have the defense give up 30 points a game, thus putting the game on Prescott shoulders having to throw to catch up and win.

This is his Achilles heel. He doesn't have that gear. Everything has to be in place for Prescott to excel. If opposing teams score 30 points, Dallas will probably lose 95% of the time.

When Romo was the QB, I was never concerned about getting into a shootout. But with Prescott it's my biggest concern.

I looked up the stats and Prescott is 2-4 in the regular season and 0-2 in the postseason when Dallas gives up 30 points. This is where Prescott needs to improve to be considered a top QB and not just above average.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Have the defense give up 30 points a game, thus putting the game on Prescott shoulders having to throw to catch up and win.

This is his Achilles heel. He doesn't have that gear. Everything has to be in place for Prescott to excel. If opposing teams score 30 points, Dallas will probably lose 95% of the time.

When Romo was the QB, I was never concerned about getting into a shootout. But with Prescott it's my biggest concern.

I looked up the stats and Prescott is 2-4 in the regular season and 0-2 in the postseason when Dallas gives up 30 points. This is where Prescott needs to improve to be considered a top QB and not just above average.

Yep Dak don't play catch up and WIN as his limited talent base won't allow for this.....once the opposing team is up by 15+ and they back off giving Dak all the Check-downs then he might score a couple of late TD usually with his legs in the Red-Zone but the game is over by this time....i.e. both playoff games were pretty much the same scenario......

 

[HardBlitz]

I find it incredibly stupid that the folks around here that don't think Dak is good enough cant even put together a couple of sentences to answer this question..

If you don't like dak, fine..I get it..but I've asked this exact same question before and they're speechless...

ummm what's the question?

 

[Typhus]

That's fair, but your comment as far as I saw was worded in a way that enveloped all people who didn't support Dak. I know it can be tiring when all someone does is complain, or that may be how it seems. I think many of those people were devoted fans that got so beaten down by the mistakes and misfortunes of this team since 96 that they expect failure more than success, yet still have an underlying love for the team. There are very few people that could be legitimately described as trolls here and those should be ignored rather than given the attention that they crave.

It's better to assume that other than fans of other teams who openly come here as fans of those teams that we're all Cowboys fans who love the team. Some might be more disillusioned than others but they're still fans.

I didn't mean to put you on the defensive more than I was trying to point out behavior on this site and in today's society that isn't helpful to discourse. Sorry if it came across as an attack.

This is the nicest post I have ever read in this forum,, and Im not making light,, seriously,, good post,, almost poetic,, good Karma stuff.. and I mean that truthfully.

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

I’m not at an extreme on him, probably moderate. I see what intangibles he brings but am not sold as a highly paid franchise QB either. I do think he can drive the bus to a SB but will need a complete team around him for that kind of playoff run.

He has games that impress me followed by some head-scratchers. What worries me is the accuracy and decision making at times.

Whichever way someone is leaning......this upcoming year should tell us a lot on where he is at and if he has reached his ceiling.

I hope he repeats his rookie season and goes on to be our QB for the next 10 years but I have my reservations for sure.

Thanks for the reasonable and fair post, they are getting harder and harder to find on here.

Pretty much agree with everything you said.

 

[CowboyRoy]

When you have lived with these.......

How the heck can you be sold on the below which half of the time is throwing for UNDER 200 yards a game!

There's pretty much nothing Dak can do as he doesn't have the God given Talent to carry a team on his shoulders......a simple cog in a very talented and expensive machine.....

P.S. Give us our LONG BALL back baby we don't do ANEMIC in BIG D!!!!!!

I had to take the offseason off of this place because I'm a pragmatist: I go with what works.

Dak Prescott as the Dallas Cowboys quarterback works.

And the numbers prove it.

Numbers are facts, to me at least. Most stats can tell you something in the context of the team... Dak has the stats of a winner. He wins. He's proven that.

So, I get tired of arguing with people who think Dak's a loser — for whatever reason.

That facts are, almost every single statistic you point at proves he's not.

So, what would Dake have to do in 2019 for all of the Dak-hating, fact-denying quarterback know-it-alls to eat crow on Dak being a legit quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys?

I was Romo's first fan. I loved watching him play. But I'm happy to be moving forward with Dak.

What would he have to do to make you happy?

The Dak Trolls have to be used to eating crow by now. They are probably getting to the point, where they crave it, they have eaten so much.

After this up and coming season, we may run out of crow. LOL

 

[Parcells4Life]

Does anyone have Daks QBR by quarter? It seems for the most part he is an average to below average the first 3 quarters then becomes All-Pro in the 4th.

If he wasn’t struggling so much the first 3 quarters, his stats would looks a lot different

Philly game at home last year is perfect example

 

[Parcells4Life]

What valid criticism? I have yet to read a post with meaningful fact-based criticism. You pick the category. Wins. Comeback wins. Completion percentage. Yards per completion. Rushing touchdowns. TD to INT ratio. It goes on and on.

Even the sacks he has taken (holds the ball too long) is a phantom argument - he takes less sacks and less fumble/sacks than Wentz, for example.

I would love to see someone criticize Dak with a fact-based argument.

He took 56 sacks overall last year and 15 were on him per Sturm and PFF. I believe that’s the most in the league for an individual and only the Texans had more sacks.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Another Dak thread.....

And a bait thread if you ask me. Thought those are frowned on