The Cap: how it has changed the league (and should change Garrett)

[CouchCoach]

Could be but maybe he wanted another legit backup after losing Casell because Bill values the position. And knew that if he was talented could bring some extra picks or at least the initial Investment back.

Thats how I see it anyway. Since he continues to place value on a backup with using higher picks.

If any GM/HC uses picks in the first 3 rounds on a QB, he's not looking for a backup, he's looking for a potential starter.

Belichick using a 2nd on Jimmy G must have sent shivers up Brady's spine and ripples through the locker room. I think that locker room has never been as crazy about Brady as some think and Jimmy G was more of a player's player. I think he was causing Brady some concern and he wanted him gone so let's do the deal for 15M and you get rid of Jimmy G.

I think Brady is a bit of a brat with this ever present chip on his shoulder because of where he was drafted and just recently he got a bug up his butt about what some TV analyst had to say about his declining skills because of age and that little pissing contest he got into with Belichick over his weasel business partner showing up and countermanding his recovery plan for his players probably didn't do their relationship any good. I don't think Belichick and Brady double date.

I do not like Belichick's presentation of himself but I love that old throwback to coaching of there's only one boss on this team. He's that HC that never has to raise his own voice in his locker room.

 

[CouchCoach]

Belichick is arguably the greatest defensive Guru this era has seen . I don’t think it’s arguable but maybe for others.

But it’s not clear how much he’s involved offensively as he’s had some sound OV who have left for HC positions.

Bill greatest asset beyond his defensive skills is overall mgmt of the Cap. But I can’t help but wonder if it would have been as effective without Brady elevating others on offense and his Money delivery in the clutch.

But Greg, none of his minions are as successful as they were with him and he owns all of them. He's that guy that taught them every thing that they know, just not every thing that he knows.

I think the word genius used in football is kind of silly but with him, it applies. And I am not saying Brady is not great because he is but he is much more dependent on Belichick than Belichick is on him.

 

[Diehardblues]

But Greg, none of his minions are as successful as they were with him and he owns all of them. He's that guy that taught them every thing that they know, just not every thing that he knows.

I think the word genius used in football is kind of silly but with him, it applies. And I am not saying Brady is not great because he is but he is much more dependent on Belichick than Belichick is on him.

I’d be more convinced if we saw Bill wining championships without Brady. All we have seen is missing playoffs when Brady was hurt and his stint at the Browns which was impressive turning Browns around but no hanging banners.

I think it’s been the combination of both. The Pats would have still been relevant but would they have won all of these championships? I do agree though that Brady probably wouldn’t have had this much success elsewhere. And why it’s about both. The greatest HC/QB combo in NFL history.

 

[Diehardblues]

If any GM/HC uses picks in the first 3 rounds on a QB, he's not looking for a backup, he's looking for a potential starter.

Belichick using a 2nd on Jimmy G must have sent shivers up Brady's spine and ripples through the locker room. I think that locker room has never been as crazy about Brady as some think and Jimmy G was more of a player's player. I think he was causing Brady some concern and he wanted him gone so let's do the deal for 15M and you get rid of Jimmy G.

I think Brady is a bit of a brat with this ever present chip on his shoulder because of where he was drafted and just recently he got a bug up his butt about what some TV analyst had to say about his declining skills because of age and that little pissing contest he got into with Belichick over his weasel business partner showing up and countermanding his recovery plan for his players probably didn't do their relationship any good. I don't think Belichick and Brady double date.

I do not like Belichick's presentation of himself but I love that old throwback to coaching of there's only one boss on this team. He's that HC that never has to raise his own voice in his locker room.

Regardless the intentions they are using the higher picks to shore up the position. If the threat of competition is healthy then it’s good scheme.

The rest is you conjuring up speculative locker room BS and summaration to support your beliefs . Lol

 

[Reid1boys]

McNabb was his first move when he joined the Eagles, picked him with the 2nd overall pick. Reid had not been a popular hire, Lurie had wanted Holmgren but he went to SEA and recommended Reid who Mariucci had tried to hire as his OC the year before and Holmgren prevented it.

The good news is that Reid's first job as an OC was in PHL, so there is precedence for a first time OC who also happened to be a first time HC. He was a hot commodity because of his rep as a QB guru and he loved the passing game.

The lights were very bright on Reid from the get go as the best disciple of the Book of West Coast Offense regarding the pass game under Holmgren and his work with Favre when he was pretty rough.

I think the coach that watches the game the best and understands what's happening is Belichick but Reid is a close second. And Pederson learned from Reid only he learned after Reid learned to love the run game.

I can read wikipedia also.... and nowhere does it say Reid got to decide draft picks.

 

[Reid1boys]

I’d be more convinced if we saw Bill wining championships without Brady. All we have seen is missing playoffs when Brady was hurt and his stint at the Browns which was impressive turning Browns around but no hanging banners.

I think it’s been the combination of both. The Pats would have still been relevant but would they have won all of these championships? I do agree though that Brady probably wouldn’t have had this much success elsewhere. And why it’s about both. The greatest HC/QB combo in NFL history.

turning the Browns around? he had a losing record in 3 of his 4 seasons. IN the 5 seasons hes been a head coach and didnt have brady behind center, hes missed the playoffs 4 out of those 5 seasons.... but everyone seems to dismiss that fact.

Lets ee super Bill do something after Brady hangs it up. I suspect Billy boy will hang it up when Tom does.

 

[Alexander]

turning the Browns around? he had a losing record in 3 of his 4 seasons. IN the 5 seasons hes been a head coach and didnt have brady behind center, hes missed the playoffs 4 out of those 5 seasons.... but everyone seems to dismiss that fact.

Lets ee super Bill do something after Brady hangs it up. I suspect Billy boy will hang it up when Tom does.

He will retire still as one the best coaches of all time. Sorry.

 

[Reid1boys]

He will retire still we the best coach of all time. Sorry.

hell yeah, hes no dummy. He doesnt want to have joe schmo behind center and string together mediocre seasons like the rest of these coaches.

He wants to be smart like Phil Jackson. Leave the buls when the Jordan gravy train ended, then start coaching when the shaq and kobe train was taking passengers. Then leave when that train reaches its final destination.

 

[Alexander]

hell yeah, hes no dummy. He doesnt want to have joe schmo behind center and string together mediocre seasons like the rest of these coaches.

He wants to be smart like Phil Jackson. Leave the buls when the Jordan gravy train ended, then start coaching when the shaq and kobe train was taking passengers. Then leave when that train reaches its final destination.

I doubt it. He will get out and stay out.

 

[Diehardblues]

I doubt it. He will get out and stay out.

If he was smart he will.

 

[Reid1boys]

I doubt it. He will get out and stay out.

I wasnt referring to Bill. When he goes, he aint coming back. Hes no spring chicken.

 

[DandyDon52]

I think by now we have come to realize he does understand but his personal passions outweigh what’s best for Cowboys Football .

Jerry didn’t appreciate winning championships with a HC that received more credit . There simply isn’t enough room in Big D for an Ego bigger than Jerry’s.

Garrett is perfect for Jerry’s personal passions.

I dont think he does understand, even with wade, and now JG he really thinks they can go all the way .
I think he thinks it is more in the players, and they can win with any hc, so why not one like JG who is easy to work with.

Also people say Jerry wants credit, but lets say they did win a SB this year, who would credit Jerry more than JG?
There would be no official credit for Jerry except in player acquisition.
I think more than credit he likes to be the boss, play GM, draft, acquire players and talk , that is the fun part for him
which he enjoys , and winning is just icing on the cake.
So all these years he is having fun even though they never get past div round.
He enjoys playing GM and being the big boss,much more than holding up a SB trophy,
and o yeah he like stacking up piles of money !! that is also a lot of fun for jerry and something he can brag about,
and of course he loved building the stadium and then bragging about that and all the attention it got.
Compare to Kraft, who may be a dummy in some ways, but he just wants to win SB's, he could build a big
stadium, but probably feels the open field gives NE an advantage, He got a good HC and just lets him do everything,
and Kraft just brags about the rings, domination, and hiring belichek.

 

[Hadenough]

Jason Garrett does several things well as previously stated. But his inability to be creative and adapt is an absolute killer in the playoffs. Which is where coaching matters most.

Bob you said mouthful. The two games that stand out in my mind are the Commanders (with Colt McCoy) were stunting and blitzing up the middle and must of sacked Romo 7 times and beat the Cowboys and Garrett said he had to go back and look at the tape to see what happened. Sure he fixed it next week but thats a week late. The game with the Falcons was just unexcusable in my book and Garrett should of been fired after that game. Chaz Green and Bell needed help blocking Claiborn and Garrett should of seen that. The lame excuse of saying he needed to go back and look at the tape was just to get the media off of his back. He dam near ruined Dak!
The play calling in Daks first playoff game against GB at the end they never should of thrown that fade pass to DEZ because putting the ball in the air stopped the clock when it was incomplete. I know its easy to call now but Rodgers history of comebacks against Dallas should of dictated running the clock out.
This year should be Garretts last chance. Garrett is always preaching about getting better but from what I see he is the one that needs to improve. I think Moore may help the offense but I also want to know why Marinelli hasnt been fired his defense has not performed good at all in the playoffs.

 

[Diehardblues]

I dont think he does understand, even with wade, and now JG he really thinks they can go all the way .
I think he thinks it is more in the players, and they can win with any hc, so why not one like JG who is easy to work with.

Also people say Jerry wants credit, but lets say they did win a SB this year, who would credit Jerry more than JG?
There would be no official credit for Jerry except in player acquisition.
I think more than credit he likes to be the boss, play GM, draft, acquire players and talk , that is the fun part for him
which he enjoys , and winning is just icing on the cake.
So all these years he is having fun even though they never get past div round.
He enjoys playing GM and being the big boss,much more than holding up a SB trophy,
and o yeah he like stacking up piles of money !! that is also a lot of fun for jerry and something he can brag about,
and of course he loved building the stadium and then bragging about that and all the attention it got.
Compare to Kraft, who may be a dummy in some ways, but he just wants to win SB's, he could build a big
stadium, but probably feels the open field gives NE an advantage, He got a good HC and just lets him do everything,
and Kraft just brags about the rings, domination, and hiring belichek.

Yea, Jerry is an eternal optimist and master promoter. I’m not sure he’s interesting in winning unless he’s involved and face of the franchise.

 

[Hadenough]

I’d be more convinced if we saw Bill wining championships without Brady. All we have seen is missing playoffs when Brady was hurt and his stint at the Browns which was impressive turning Browns around but no hanging banners.

I think it’s been the combination of both. The Pats would have still been relevant but would they have won all of these championships? I do agree though that Brady probably wouldn’t have had this much success elsewhere. And why it’s about both. The greatest HC/QB combo in NFL history.

I tend to agree! The Pats would still be good but Brady is the key ingredient to dominance! I think Belichick is smart and knows every year Brady is at risk of being done and he has been drafting QBs just in case and then trading them away. I heard he really wanted keep Garapolo but it was Brady and Kraft that were willing to trade him. If Brady was 30 and you had the choice to bring him or Belichick to Dallas who would you take and why? Thats a really tough decision because with Brady the Cowboys wouldnt of had a 3rd down conversion rate of 1-10. But with Belichick the Rams never would of had all those rushing yds.

 

[Bobhaze]

I tend to agree! The Pats would still be good but Brady is the key ingredient to dominance! I think Belichick is smart and knows every year Brady is at risk of being done and he has been drafting QBs just in case and then trading them away. I heard he really wanted keep Garapolo but it was Brady and Kraft that were willing to trade him. If Brady was 30 and you had the choice to bring him or Belichick to Dallas who would you take and why? Thats a really tough decision because with Brady the Cowboys wouldnt of had a 3rd down conversion rate of 1-10. But with Belichick the Rams never would of had all those rushing yds.

I would take Belichick over Brady in his prime in a heartbeat. Look at great QBs like Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. Truly great QBs who have won 1 ring each. Even a great QB like Brady can’t do it all himself.

What makes Belichick singularly great is his ability to get maximum performance out of his entire 53 man roster. From backup/STs players to stars. Everyone is expected to perform at a high level.

The other great aspect of a Belichick coached team is their ability to adapt on both sides of the ball to their opponent- in season and in game. A quick example of this:

• In 2014, the pats played a 3-1 Bengals team on the road and beat them handily by rushing for over 200 yards, led by Stephan Ridley’s 113 yards. Brady only threw the ball 27 times. “Obviously they are a great running team” said many fans.
• The next very week in a 42-21 blowout win against the bills at home, Brady threw for 361 yards and they only rushed for about 70 yards. So they’re a passing team again?
• In the divisional round of the 2014 playoffs, Brady threw for nearly 400 yards against Balt, but they only rushed for 13 yards. The very next week in the AFC Championship game against Indy, LaGarrette Blount rushed for nearly 150:yards and they only threw the ball 26 times. Adability!
• Belechick teams do this all the time. They adapt to their opponent. You never know what they are going to do against you week to week.

Tom Brady is probably the best QB in NFL history. But if he had played somewhere else for a different coach, he wouldn’t have all those rings.

 

[Reid1boys]

Yea, Jerry is an eternal optimist and master promoter. I’m not sure he’s interesting in winning unless he’s involved and face of the franchise.

master promoter?

So what great slogand and promotions has he done? Did he come up with a killer ad like., "Just do it," or maybe," Have a Coke and a smile?" The pwner of the Seattle Mariners could own the Cowboys and the Cowboy brand is going to thrive like no other team. Jerry need do NOTHING fo rhis brand to be number 1. NUber 1 is following, number 1 in sales. The cap dictates what he can spend, so his profits are gonna be what they are gonna be. If Jerry spent half the cap and basicaly was penalized up to the amount they have to spend, then I could see talking about his promoting and only woried about money. BUt Jerry has money, lots of itm and he makes more every year, NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES.

 

[Reid1boys]

I would take Belichick over Brady in his prime in a heartbeat. Look at great QBs like Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. Truly great QBs who have won 1 ring each. Even a great QB like Brady can’t do it all himself.

What makes Belichick singularly great is his ability to get maximum performance out of his entire 53 man roster. From backup/STs players to stars. Everyone is expected to perform at a high level.

The other great aspect of a Belichick coached team is their ability to adapt on both sides of the ball to their opponent- in season and in game. A quick example of this:

• In 2014, the pats played a 3-1 Bengals team on the road and beat them handily by rushing for over 200 yards, led by Stephan Ridley’s 113 yards. Brady only threw the ball 27 times. “Obviously they are a great running team” said many fans.
• The next very week in a 42-21 blowout win against the bills at home, Brady threw for 361 yards and they only rushed for about 70 yards. So they’re a passing team again?
• In the divisional round of the 2014 playoffs, Brady threw for nearly 400 yards against Balt, but they only rushed for 13 yards. The very next week in the AFC Championship game against Indy, LaGarrette Blount rushed for nearly 150:yards and they only threw the ball 26 times. Adability!
• Belechick teams do this all the time. They adapt to their opponent. You never know what they are going to do against you week to week.

Tom Brady is probably the best QB in NFL history. But if he had played somewhere else for a different coach, he wouldn’t have all those rings.

Hes so great that his owner told Belichek to go screw himself when he wanted to get rid of Brady. Bill has missed the playoffs in 4 out of the 5 seasons he didnt coach one Tom Btady. Apparently his abilities fell a little short when Mt=r. Brady wasnt the one actually executing the great brilliance of Bill.

 

[Diehardblues]

master promoter?

So what great slogand and promotions has he done? Did he come up with a killer ad like., "Just do it," or maybe," Have a Coke and a smile?" The pwner of the Seattle Mariners could own the Cowboys and the Cowboy brand is going to thrive like no other team. Jerry need do NOTHING fo rhis brand to be number 1. NUber 1 is following, number 1 in sales. The cap dictates what he can spend, so his profits are gonna be what they are gonna be. If Jerry spent half the cap and basicaly was penalized up to the amount they have to spend, then I could see talking about his promoting and only woried about money. BUt Jerry has money, lots of itm and he makes more every year, NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES.

Meaning he’s always front and center promoting his product.

He always sells his product like its talented enough to win a Super Bowl then when it doesn’t has to go into Damage Control looking for scapegoats.

 

[Diehardblues]

I tend to agree! The Pats would still be good but Brady is the key ingredient to dominance! I think Belichick is smart and knows every year Brady is at risk of being done and he has been drafting QBs just in case and then trading them away. I heard he really wanted keep Garapolo but it was Brady and Kraft that were willing to trade him. If Brady was 30 and you had the choice to bring him or Belichick to Dallas who would you take and why? Thats a really tough decision because with Brady the Cowboys wouldnt of had a 3rd down conversion rate of 1-10. But with Belichick the Rams never would of had all those rushing yds.

Yep.. Brady has allowed Belichick to continue churning the roster managing the Cap since Brady can elevate others around him. It wouldn’t have worked with a QB who needs the type of supporting cast here with Prescott.