The Cap: how it has changed the league (and should change Garrett)

[kskboys]

Good questions .

First of all it’s not my job as a fan or critic to address solutions . I’m simply pointing out what I see and believe as issues which are preventing this team from having a greater offense and potentially a more serious contender .

I also have concerns our ownership might have underlying issues with intentions to see this QB thru despite some of the obvious concerns that have been raised. Given that I also appreciate what we’ve accomplished with Dak in his 3 years and see the intangible assets he brings and with all of the right pieces surrounding him are a solid competitor.

But if you ask me what would put us over the hump offensively that’s one of the key pieces I see. And I can’t help but wonder if our ownership hadn’t fell head over hills after the Rookie season we might have looked to bring some competition in to compete for the position.

I believe enough concerns were raised in 2017 to take a step back and reevaluate our stance after 2016. The potential solutions could have been in draft or FA. I certainly don’t believe using a 5th round pick was a serious effort for competition for the position.

Our ownership IMO placed all of our eggs in one basket once they released Romo which I’d argue wasn’t the best decision overall for Cowboys Football or the development of Prescott. So yes, there’s several different moves and decisions we could have made.

Why not? I mean, seriously, we are in a discussion in which you are adamant that we need a different QB. I pointed out that there hasn't been one available, and your answer is that it's not your job? Of course it's not your job, but that's a copout.

 

[Flamma]

Any unit can only go as fast as its slowest member. That's what the cap achieved. Before the cap you could tell who wanted to win the most. Acting on the desire to win is non existent with the cap. If every team was willing to spend and pay for good players, there would be no need for a cap. The cap is there because of these bum organizations, and it's meant to bring everyone else down close to their level.

 

[Diehardblues]

Why not? I mean, seriously, we are in a discussion in which you are adamant that we need a different QB. I pointed out that there hasn't been one available, and your answer is that it's not your job? Of course it's not your job, but that's a copout.

I offered some potential solutions if you read entire post.

You can’t sit here now after several drafts and FA periods have passed and Say now what.

If we’d made better decisions in draft and FA along the way we could have already addressed these concerns and potentially be in a better position.

Just this year in 3rd round Id of considered Will Grier in 3rd round who didn’t go until 100th pick. Definitely someone capable of competition in camp and more suitable back up. Is that what you want is specific names you can dissect further.

Again , I thought our initial move releasing Romo and not further developing Prescott was the first mistake and then not bringing in more competition after 2017. I’d have to go back and look at the draft in 2017 and 2018 along with FA to see who I might have drafted or pursued but it would definitely be more than the 5th round pick we made for White.

 

[Reid1boys]

Is it OK if I disagree w/ you, or are you going to keep yelling at me?

im hardly yelling. You are just taking it as yelling. I enjoy the discussion, but trust me, Im not yelling. What in my words makes you assume I am yelling? or upset some how. You make a point, I disagree, but when I disagree, I try to actually point out some relevant information as to the basis of my point of view. Too many posters just point to one thing and say.... see, Im right. Very little is black and white in the nfl, and there are ALWAYS exceptions to anything any of us post.

 

[Reid1boys]

Why not? I mean, seriously, we are in a discussion in which you are adamant that we need a different QB. I pointed out that there hasn't been one available, and your answer is that it's not your job? Of course it's not your job, but that's a copout.

I personally dont see Dak taking us to a SB.... but big deal. Trent Dilfer wouldnt have ben someone I jumped up and down over, nor Joe Flacco, nor Nick Foles, nor Eli Manning.
The only way we will ever know if Dak is or isnt th eguy is wait to see how his time here plays out. If it were that simple, Jerry would just hire a guy that could for sure pick a qb that would win us a SB.

 

[kskboys]

I offered some potential solutions if you read entire post.

You can’t sit here now after several drafts and FA periods have passed and Say now what.

If we’d made better decisions in draft and FA along the way we could have already addressed these concerns and potentially be in a better position.

Just this year in 3rd round Id of considered Will Grier in 3rd round who didn’t go until 100th pick. Definitely someone capable of competition in camp and more suitable back up. Is that what you want is specific names you can dissect further.

Again , I thought our initial move releasing Romo and not further developing Prescott was the first mistake and then not bringing in more competition after 2017. I’d have to go back and look at the draft in 2017 and 2018 along with FA to see who I might have drafted or pursued but it would definitely be more than the 5th round pick we made for White.

Spin it, baby!!!!!!

I completely agree that things should have been done differently over the last 20 years!!!!! I liked both Foles and Cousins for where they went in the draft.

Yes, we can say "Now what".

I'm not a huge Dak fan myself, and didn't fall for his rook season. However, since he's what we have, and since he has not been developed, I'm thinking we'll see a better Qb under Moore/Kitna. Both are heady vets who know how to play the position, so I'm wondering why you don't think Dak has a shot at being a decent NFL starter? Hey, I'd rather have Mahomes myself, but he's not available, so what is your solution? Trading Dak? I wouldn't be opposed, necessarily, if a couple 1sts were offered.

 

[kskboys]

I personally dont see Dak taking us to a SB.... but big deal. Trent Dilfer wouldnt have ben someone I jumped up and down over, nor Joe Flacco, nor Nick Foles, nor Eli Manning.
The only way we will ever know if Dak is or isnt th eguy is wait to see how his time here plays out. If it were that simple, Jerry would just hire a guy that could for sure pick a qb that would win us a SB.

I'm iffy on it myself. However, since Dak has some great traits and is a leader and a gamer, I'm hoping. The key is to not build a Dak-dependent team, IMO.

 

[Whyjerry]

A broken clock isn't right 2/3 of the time.

This is exactly what is wrong with the current educational system. I get what this poster is trying to say but 22 divided by 24 (if we limit it to any hour) is not 2/3. And they tout STEM today. A generation of idiots.

 

[Melonfeud]

Today’s NFL is completely different than it was when we last won a Super Bowl in the 1995 season. Back then, the salary cap had just been instituted and it would have a profound effect on the league in several key ways:

• How teams acquired, developed and maintained its talent changed dramatically.
• It also leveled the playing field in talent matchups between teams. It became much harder to stockpile talent with depth like the Cowboys did back in the early 90s.
• Because the talent gaps are smaller in today’s game, the role of creativity and scheme became much more important than just winning by brute physical advantages.
• And finally, this led to critical importance of having a head coach and staff that can BE CREATIVE AND ADAPT TO CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES QUICKLY- both in games and in season. Quite simply, having a creative HC has become more critical than ever before.

So, the importance of having creative and adaptive schemes on both sides of the ball have become a must if your team is to win in the regular season and to qualify for the playoffs. And, once in the playoffs, your team's ability to be creative and adaptive is even more critical.

Improving this team’s ability to be more creative and adaptive may be the biggest key to finally having a deep playoff run we haven’t seen since the salary cap was installed.

Unfortunately, despite some strengths exhibited in acquiring talent and getting his teams ready to consistently play hard, Jason Garrett runs this team like a 1965 Vince Lombardi packers team. “Here is what we do, we’re going to do it over and over, because that’s what we do, and we are going to out physical you with it”. The problem is, that theory doesn’t work so often in today’s NFL.

Jason Garrett does several things well as previously stated. But his inability to be creative and adapt is an absolute killer in the playoffs. Which is where coaching matters most.

If Garrett doesn’t correct this bad habit, he will continue to be a decent regular season coach who struggles to win in the playoffs. My hope is that the addition of Kellen Moore will add some creativity to our offensive schemes and influence some of the habits and practices of our head coach.

Surely this season is Garrett’s last chance to prove he can be that kind of coach.

Pretty cool thread,Bob
& the continuous insightful illumination it shines on the one major deficiency (,,,er,,,that's probably still gonna be firmly emplaced come the 2020 season) can not be over stated/pointed out enough

 

[Reid1boys]

I'm iffy on it myself. However, since Dak has some great traits and is a leader and a gamer, I'm hoping. The key is to not build a Dak-dependent team, IMO.

doesnt matter... if Dak gets hurt, we are scrwed, just like every other team. Yeah, yeah... but Nick Foles.... yea, Foles only had to start 2 reg season games, and he sucke din both. Had he came in at about week 8, no way in hell he takes the Eagles to a title.

I would like to see us do like the pats though... draft a qb every other year.

 

[Diehardblues]

Spin it, baby!!!!!!

I completely agree that things should have been done differently over the last 20 years!!!!! I liked both Foles and Cousins for where they went in the draft.

Yes, we can say "Now what".

I'm not a huge Dak fan myself, and didn't fall for his rook season. However, since he's what we have, and since he has not been developed, I'm thinking we'll see a better Qb under Moore/Kitna. Both are heady vets who know how to play the position, so I'm wondering why you don't think Dak has a shot at being a decent NFL starter? Hey, I'd rather have Mahomes myself, but he's not available, so what is your solution? Trading Dak? I wouldn't be opposed, necessarily, if a couple 1sts were offered.

Yes , I understand Dak is our guy and we’ll have to see how it works out but when we are evaluating the concerns and causes of why we aren’t reaching our goals then this is a place I’ll turn to at least as a contributing factor.

Just because we’re stuck without better alternatives after the fact doesn’t protect him from criticism.

 

[Diehardblues]

I'm iffy on it myself. However, since Dak has some great traits and is a leader and a gamer, I'm hoping. The key is to not build a Dak-dependent team, IMO.

Yep

And we know “ hope “ isn’t a plan . Lol

 

[Diehardblues]

doesnt matter... if Dak gets hurt, we are scrwed, just like every other team. Yeah, yeah... but Nick Foles.... yea, Foles only had to start 2 reg season games, and he sucke din both. Had he came in at about week 8, no way in hell he takes the Eagles to a title.

I would like to see us do like the pats though... draft a qb every other year.

If we don’t have a reliable backup then we are right back where started. I’m not sure why we don’t hold more value with a backup QB? I have my suspicions.

 

[CouchCoach]

The cap brought about the perception of parity and leveled the playing field and as fans we saw the phenomena emerge of the "disappointing teams/surprise teams" every season and this one is not likely to be any different.

In order to win consistently, you need an edge. Most teams can't get that with players because of that parity level so they must get it somewhere else. If they can't get that on the field, they have to get that with the men that put them on the field.

Booger's greatest failing as a GM is his lack of regard and respect for coaching. Early on, can't really blame him, Switzer should have won 2 with that talent and they made it look so easy. But he failed to learn as he selected the coaches for his staff for all except Johnson and Parcells and we can only guess how coaches arrive now except Kiffin was a Garrett friend.

The NFL has been turning over coaches at the alarming rate of 20-25% every season because the fact is that there just aren't that many good coaches in the NFL. The drop from the Belichick's, Reid's and Carroll's, and Pederson is poised on the cusp of that using the Reid model, to the next level is steep. McVay is hovering there, like Pederson, but he has to prove more than he has. Other than that, they just cycle through, pick up their 15-25M, and move on.

The prerequisite list for being the DC HC is the problem. It's not the best man for the job in order to max out the potential for the personnel, the #1 requirement is get along with the GM and give in to his idiosyncrasies like being the face and spokesperson for the team and his Kardashian like hunger for celebrity status. I think Garrett knows how to play football but I absolutely know he knows how to play Booger. He knows the secret to longevity with this team.

Any GM worth his salt would have sent that entire coaching staff packing after that 2015 embarrassment. But this GM made excuses for them because he wanted to keep them.

 

[Reid1boys]

If we don’t have a reliable backup then we are right back where started. I’m not sure why we don’t hold more value with a backup QB? I have my suspicions.

there just arent many good ones, and you also pay a very high dollar for someone like a Fitzpatrick. If the starter is out for the season, your season is realistically over anyways, so why pay a backup 7 million per season when that backup likely isnt taking you anywhere anyways? Eagles got lucky.. how is there backup QB looking for this season?

 

[gimmesix]

I’m hopeful the Moore Experiment works ... but what if it doesn’t ?

If it doesn't, you change head coaches because changing the OC hasn't made enough of a difference to put us over the top.

If it doesn't because Prescott's play is up and down, then you restart the process of trying to find your next franchise quarterback.

If it doesn't because of excuses, legitimate or otherwise, you still give a new head coach as shot to see if he can do a better job of overcoming those excuses.

 

[Reid1boys]

The cap brought about the perception of parity and leveled the playing field and as fans we saw the phenomena emerge of the "disappointing teams/surprise teams" every season and this one is not likely to be any different.

In order to win consistently, you need an edge. Most teams can't get that with players because of that parity level so they must get it somewhere else. If they can't get that on the field, they have to get that with the men that put them on the field.

Booger's greatest failing as a GM is his lack of regard and respect for coaching. Early on, can't really blame him, Switzer should have won 2 with that talent and they made it look so easy. But he failed to learn as he selected the coaches for his staff for all except Johnson and Parcells and we can only guess how coaches arrive now except Kiffin was a Garrett friend.

The NFL has been turning over coaches at the alarming rate of 20-25% every season because the fact is that there just aren't that many good coaches in the NFL. The drop from the Belichick's, Reid's and Carroll's, and Pederson is poised on the cusp of that using the Reid model, to the next level is steep. McVay is hovering there, like Pederson, but he has to prove more than he has. Other than that, they just cycle through, pick up their 15-25M, and move on.

The prerequisite list for being the DC HC is the problem. It's not the best man for the job in order to max out the potential for the personnel, the #1 requirement is get along with the GM and give in to his idiosyncrasies like being the face and spokesperson for the team and his Kardashian like hunger for celebrity status. I think Garrett knows how to play football but I absolutely know he knows how to play Booger. He knows the secret to longevity with this team.

Take away the Pats because they are an anamoly... now point out to me the team that wins consistently in the cap era. Wins to me means more than a token ONE SB win and then up and down up and down up and down... which pretty much describes most teams in the NFL.

Pitt??? Maybe
Ravens?? Maybe


keep going

 

[CouchCoach]

Take away the Pats because they are an anamoly... now point out to me the team that wins consistently in the cap era. Wins to me means more than a token ONE SB win and then up and down up and down up and down... which pretty much describes most teams in the NFL.

Pitt??? Maybe
Ravens?? Maybe


keep going

KC has been pretty steady and I would rank Reid as the 2nd best HC in the league but the key to it is what the best coach in the league discovered and has been better at that than any other. He truly sees it as a team of 53, not 22. No other HC is able to withstand the injuries like he can because he plans for them. He didn't even offer Flowers a contract because he knew it would be close to what Lawrence got and 21M isn't what a smart team puts on any one D player, especially a DE. That's at least 2 players to him.

It's a Catch 22. The Cowboys give Lawrence 21M because they're afraid to go into the season without him, why? Because they know they don't have the coaching to make it without him.

If I was an owner, I would have the best paid coaches, and largest coaching staff, in the league and if I missed on one, I would bite the bullet and pay him and bring in another. There is a very good reason Belichick, Saban and Swinney are the best paid coaches in the game. And if they need another body, all they need do is ask.

It was interesting to see Parcells and what he did with his coaching staff by separating the passing coordinator and run coordinator, I would never not have that. I would have the same on the D side under my DC too.

 

[Diehardblues]

If it doesn't, you change head coaches because changing the OC hasn't made enough of a difference to put us over the top.

If it doesn't because Prescott's play is up and down, then you restart the process of trying to find your next franchise quarterback.

If it doesn't because of excuses, legitimate or otherwise, you still give a new head coach as shot to see if he can do a better job of overcoming those excuses.

The wrath of Dak would continue. Lol
Not sure any coach is surviving him?

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

If we don’t have a reliable backup then we are right back where started. I’m not sure why we don’t hold more value with a backup QB? I have my suspicions.

Your point at backup QB is legit. This train comes off the tracks if Mike White or Cooper Rush have to play many meaningful snaps. The only potential excuse is who is out there and who would we sign (even early this offseason)?