The Cap: how it has changed the league (and should change Garrett)

[Reid1boys]

Meaning he’s always front and center promoting his product.

He always sells his product like its talented enough to win a Super Bowl then when it doesn’t has to go into Damage Control looking for scapegoats.

scapegoats? I dont remember him throwing anyone under the bus. And Ijust think some of you hear what you want to hear. The man is smart . I wish you all would copy video links to back up your claims about Jerry. The best claims are the ones that try to get into his head and talk about his issues , insecurities, and desires. You all should take over for Dr. Phile with your inate abilities to read into people's brains.

 

[Reid1boys]

Meaning he’s always front and center promoting his product.

He always sells his product like its talented enough to win a Super Bowl then when it doesn’t has to go into Damage Control looking for scapegoats.

BY the way, Id take Jerry over any other owner in the league.... if the prostitute using Kraft. I cant WAIT to see what happens with Kraft. Remember the precedent has been set.. dont need any conviction, or even charges to suspend.

 

[Diehardblues]

I would take Belichick over Brady in his prime in a heartbeat. Look at great QBs like Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. Truly great QBs who have won 1 ring each. Even a great QB like Brady can’t do it all himself.

What makes Belichick singularly great is his ability to get maximum performance out of his entire 53 man roster. From backup/STs players to stars. Everyone is expected to perform at a high level.

The other great aspect of a Belichick coached team is their ability to adapt on both sides of the ball to their opponent- in season and in game. A quick example of this:

• In 2014, the pats played a 3-1 Bengals team on the road and beat them handily by rushing for over 200 yards, led by Stephan Ridley’s 113 yards. Brady only threw the ball 27 times. “Obviously they are a great running team” said many fans.
• The next very week in a 42-21 blowout win against the bills at home, Brady threw for 361 yards and they only rushed for about 70 yards. So they’re a passing team again?
• In the divisional round of the 2014 playoffs, Brady threw for nearly 400 yards against Balt, but they only rushed for 13 yards. The very next week in the AFC Championship game against Indy, LaGarrette Blount rushed for nearly 150:yards and they only threw the ball 26 times. Adability!
• Belechick teams do this all the time. They adapt to their opponent. You never know what they are going to do against you week to week.

Tom Brady is probably the best QB in NFL history. But if he had played somewhere else for a different coach, he wouldn’t have all those rings.

Yep like Coach said yesterday . Belichick is like getting 3 points for being at home. He’s the master of making adjustments.

What he does best is take your best weapon out and makes you beat him another way.

And then there’s the amazing clutch performance when the game is on the line. I think Brady might even be better than Montana, Staubach and Elway with the game on the line. Pure “Money” as I call him. No one I’d rather have under center with 2 minutes to play.

 

[Diehardblues]

BY the way, Id take Jerry over any other owner in the league.... if the prostitute using Kraft. I cant WAIT to see what happens with Kraft. Remember the precedent has been set.. dont need any conviction, or even charges to suspend.

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion.

Jerry since Jimmy left has been the greatest hurdle to overcome with his meddling. Not only in personnel but coaching. Wearing both the owner and GM hats is often a conflict of interest.

Let them suspend Kraft. They still have Belichick and Brady which makes them greater. Kraft stays out of Football decisions which is what makes him a greater owner.

Jerry could be a great owner if he’d stay out of football decisions.

 

[Diehardblues]

scapegoats? I dont remember him throwing anyone under the bus. And Ijust think some of you hear what you want to hear. The man is smart . I wish you all would copy video links to back up your claims about Jerry. The best claims are the ones that try to get into his head and talk about his issues , insecurities, and desires. You all should take over for Dr. Phile with your inate abilities to read into people's brains.

You wouldn’t call firing Linehan a scapegoat ? There’s many others.

Jerry is brilliant when it comes to generating revenue. And why he was inducted into the HOF for his contributions.

 

[Reid1boys]

You wouldn’t call firing Linehan a scapegoat ? There’s many others.

Jerry is brilliant when it comes to generating revenue. And why he was inducted into the HOF for his contributions.

Uhmm.... you dont think our offense was a little vanilla? Firing him made him a scapegoat? So if he fires JG does that make JG a scapegoat? Jerry treats all of the people involved with the Cowboys with respect, and gratitude. Show me video proof contradicting my statement.

 

[Bobhaze]

Hes so great that his owner told Belichek to go screw himself when he wanted to get rid of Brady. Bill has missed the playoffs in 4 out of the 5 seasons he didnt coach one Tom Btady. Apparently his abilities fell a little short when Mt=r. Brady wasnt the one actually executing the great brilliance of Bill.

Fell a little short? Lol. If you don’t think BB is a great coach I’m not sure anyone can change your mind. I’m happy to let your stance on that stand by itself.

But just for the sake of not avoiding your argument that w/out Brady, Belechick is nothing, let’s examine that-

• In his 24 years as a HC Belechick teams did not make the playoffs, 6 times, 4 of them when he was the HC of Cleveland from 91-95, the first 5 years of his time as a HC. The Cleveland team he inherited was terrible, yet he did manage to get them in the playoffs within three years, winning a playoff game. (Their last playoff win btw)
• Since BB took over in NE, in his 19 years as HC, they have not made the playoffs twice- once in 2000 (before Brady) when they went 9-7, and again in 2008 when Brady blew his knee out and missed the entire season. Even then in 2008, without Tom terrific, the pats went 11-5, just missing the playoffs.
• Belechick’s record as a HC without Tom Brady is actually 23-13. Compare that to Jason Garrett when he lost his starting QB in 2015, going 4-12 and former GB coach Mike McCarthy’s team went 1-5 without Rodgers in 2017.

Whatever you think about the greatness of Tom Brady, and he is great, to say without Brady Bill Belechick’s “abilities fall short” is not an accurate statement according to the record.

 

[Diehardblues]

Uhmm.... you dont think our offense was a little vanilla? Firing him made him a scapegoat? So if he fires JG does that make JG a scapegoat? Jerry treats all of the people involved with the Cowboys with respect, and gratitude. Show me video proof contradicting my statement.

If you don’t agree that’s fine.

 

[Hadenough]

Yep.. Brady has allowed Belichick to continue churning the roster managing the Cap since Brady can elevate others around him. It wouldn’t have worked with a QB who needs the type of supporting cast here with Prescott.

Actually this team is set up the opposite. They are set up right now to be rookie QB friendly and they could churn through QBs if the wanted to and still be competitive.

 

[Number1]

Today’s NFL is completely different than it was when we last won a Super Bowl in the 1995 season. Back then, the salary cap had just been instituted and it would have a profound effect on the league in several key ways:

• How teams acquired, developed and maintained its talent changed dramatically.
• It also leveled the playing field in talent matchups between teams. It became much harder to stockpile talent with depth like the Cowboys did back in the early 90s.
• Because the talent gaps are smaller in today’s game, the role of creativity and scheme became much more important than just winning by brute physical advantages.
• And finally, this led to critical importance of having a head coach and staff that can BE CREATIVE AND ADAPT TO CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES QUICKLY- both in games and in season. Quite simply, having a creative HC has become more critical than ever before.

So, the importance of having creative and adaptive schemes on both sides of the ball have become a must if your team is to win in the regular season and to qualify for the playoffs. And, once in the playoffs, your team's ability to be creative and adaptive is even more critical.

Improving this team’s ability to be more creative and adaptive may be the biggest key to finally having a deep playoff run we haven’t seen since the salary cap was installed.

Unfortunately, despite some strengths exhibited in acquiring talent and getting his teams ready to consistently play hard, Jason Garrett runs this team like a 1965 Vince Lombardi packers team. “Here is what we do, we’re going to do it over and over, because that’s what we do, and we are going to out physical you with it”. The problem is, that theory doesn’t work so often in today’s NFL.

Jason Garrett does several things well as previously stated. But his inability to be creative and adapt is an absolute killer in the playoffs. Which is where coaching matters most.

If Garrett doesn’t correct this bad habit, he will continue to be a decent regular season coach who struggles to win in the playoffs. My hope is that the addition of Kellen Moore will add some creativity to our offensive schemes and influence some of the habits and practices of our head coach.

Surely this season is Garrett’s last chance to prove he can be that kind of coach.

it's amazing how often people pretend JG doesn't work for JJ

 

[kskboys]

Fell a little short? Lol. If you don’t think BB is a great coach I’m not sure anyone can change your mind. I’m happy to let your stance on that stand by itself.

But just for the sake of not avoiding your argument that w/out Brady, Belechick is nothing, let’s examine that-

• In his 24 years as a HC Belechick teams did not make the playoffs, 6 times, 4 of them when he was the HC of Cleveland from 91-95, the first 5 years of his time as a HC. The Cleveland team he inherited was terrible, yet he did manage to get them in the playoffs within three years, winning a playoff game. (Their last playoff win btw)
• Since BB took over in NE, in his 19 years as HC, they have not made the playoffs twice- once in 2000 (before Brady) when they went 9-7, and again in 2008 when Brady blew his knee out and missed the entire season. Even then in 2008, without Tom terrific, the pats went 11-5, just missing the playoffs.
• Belechick’s record as a HC without Tom Brady is actually 23-13. Compare that to Jason Garrett when he lost his starting QB in 2015, going 4-12 and former GB coach Mike McCarthy’s team went 1-5 without Rodgers in 2017.

Whatever you think about the greatness of Tom Brady, and he is great, to say without Brady Bill Belechick’s “abilities fall short” is not an accurate statement according to the record.

It's like people don't even watch the game and insist on their preconceived notions!!!

Belly completely bamfoozled 3 high octane O's in the playoffs last year, LAC, KC, and LAR. Ranked 11th, 1st, and 2nd.

 

[Bobhaze]

It's like people don't even watch the game and insist on their preconceived notions!!!

Belly completely bamfoozled 3 high octane O's in the playoffs last year, LAC, KC, and LAR. Ranked 11th, 1st, and 2nd.

Great point. And his teams (on both sides of the ball) are typically the most adaptive and creative, which is no small reason why his teams have dominated this century.

 

[Diehardblues]

It's like people don't even watch the game and insist on their preconceived notions!!!

Belly completely bamfoozled 3 high octane O's in the playoffs last year, LAC, KC, and LAR. Ranked 11th, 1st, and 2nd.

And why he’s the defensive guru of this era going back to his 1st SB win with Pats against the Greatest Show on Turf.

 

[Diehardblues]

Actually this team is set up the opposite. They are set up right now to be rookie QB friendly and they could churn through QBs if the wanted to and still be competitive.

Yep and why we shouldn’t pay Prescott anywhere close to top 5 money. We should treat QB position like any other position with average to slightly above average talent when it comes to second contract. Can we replace them in draft with similar talent level on a Rookie contract?

But we’d probably need to draft something higher than a 5th rounder.

There are legit backups with potential to start in 2nd and 3rd rounds like Jimmy G and Foles. Will Grier might have been that guy this year in 3rd round. Cousins was a 4th rounder. Just saying..

 

[Diehardblues]

Great point. And his teams (on both sides of the ball) are typically the most adaptive and creative, which is no small reason why his teams have dominated this century.

Very true but there has been some other teams this era which have had some sustained success appearing in multiple Super Bowls and or championships like Steelers, Packers,Colts , Broncos, Seahawks and Ravens for example with either HOF caliber QB’s or #1 defenses which appears to be the recipe in Cap era. We’ve had neither and why we’ve probably been shut out thus far.

 

[kskboys]

Very true but there has been some other teams this era which have had some sustained success appearing in multiple Super Bowls and or championships like Steelers, Packers,Colts , Broncos, Seahawks and Ravens for example with either HOF caliber QB’s or #1 defenses which appears to be the recipe in Cap era. We’ve had neither and why we’ve probably been shut out thus far.

Which is why I'm always harping on the DT position. That's where it all starts, and if you're weak there, generally it won't be enough for a deep playoff run.

 

[CouchCoach]

I can read wikipedia also.... and nowhere does it say Reid got to decide draft picks.

So, you are bringing in a HC/OC, known as a QB whisperer, and you are not going to allow him to pick his trigger man? Two years later, Lurie named him GM in essence because of his ability to pick players.

 

[Reid1boys]

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So, you are bringing in a HC/OC, known as a QB whisperer, and you are not going to allow him to pick his trigger man? Two years later, Lurie named him GM in essence because of his ability to pick players.

Reid came in as a NOBODY that was a highly criticised pick. You dont bring in a rookie HC and just turn over a top 5 draft pick to him after he had been coach for about 3 months. You are viewing Reid through the prism of 20 years as a HC, not the prism as a rookie HC with no real credibility built up.

 

[CouchCoach]

Belichick will hang it up when he's ready and Brady has nothing to do with it. If Brady hadn't agreed to take the discount, he wouldn't be in NE and Belichick has proven, more than any HC, that he doesn't need his QB to play at a HOF level to win the game because he doesn't rely on one player top win a game.

When Belichick was considering trading Brady and moving Garappolo into that QB1 slot, Brady had to take the deal in order to stay with NE. That was the deal that Kraft made him take to keep Belichick happy. Kraft knows that if Belichick decided he wanted out, the line would go out the door with teams lining up to give up just two 1sts to get him.

As far as Belichick's CLE days, he was a first time HC with no points and little control over his personnel and learned that Parcells lesson, "if I am cooking, I want to pick out the groceries" and that's what caused him to turn down the Jets and go to NE. He knew Kraft and what kind of owner he was, hands off.

 

[kskboys]

Yep and why we shouldn’t pay Prescott anywhere close to top 5 money. We should treat QB position like any other position with average to slightly above average talent when it comes to second contract. Can we replace them in draft with similar talent level on a Rookie contract?

But we’d probably need to draft something higher than a 5th rounder.

There are legit backups with potential to start in 2nd and 3rd rounds like Jimmy G and Foles. Will Grier might have been that guy this year in 3rd round. Cousins was a 4th rounder. Just saying..

Legit starters past the first round at QB is a complete crappshoot. QB's w/ the great attitude and grit of a Dak are very tough to find.