News: Gil Brandt's 10 most talented teams in the NFL (Cowboys 2)

[Stash]

lol, Wentz' MVP play got them HFA. Foles did the job well but is no Wentz...Foles is just absolute clutch in big games...but he doesnt play that well over the long haul.

You really should look past the simple analysis and maybe watch how they actually played. Foles threw dimes all over the field during the superbowl. it was not the system. he played so far aove his typical level it was amazing. If Foles threw the ball as well and read the field as well during the reg season he would be the best QB in football...he doesnt.

Wentz is an MVP calibre QB, Foles is not.

Who was it who was actually an MVP?

 

[MCMetal69]

lol, Wentz' MVP play got them HFA. Foles did the job well but is no Wentz...Foles is just absolute clutch in big games...but he doesnt play that well over the long haul.

You really should look past the simple analysis and maybe watch how they actually played. Foles threw dimes all over the field during the superbowl. it was not the system. he played so far aove his typical level it was amazing. If Foles threw the ball as well and read the field as well during the reg season he would be the best QB in football...he doesnt.

Wentz is an MVP calibre QB, Foles is not.

Wentz was nowhere near an MVP type QB last season before getting hurt (again).................He had 16 turnovers in 11 games.........................

 

[Fwed]

It was without a doubt the system. They were running RPO stuff and the defenses had not adjusted. Kudos to that staff for thinking outside the box with Foles who had played pretty mediocre for them up until the playoffs.

Then he was mediocre again the start of last year...

 

[Sydla]

Then he was mediocre again the start of last year...

There was little comparison between the Foles of 2017 and the Foles of 2018. His play late in 2018 was blah compared to the performance he put on running through the 2017 playoffs.

 

[TD21]

It's amazing how they continue to teabag Wince constantly when he has accomplished abbsolutely nothing in this league.

 

[cowboyblue22]

We've had a top-5 talent team for the past decade, doesn't mean anything.

the cowboys have had talented rosters over the last few years and they still don't win when the qb play and coaching is average that's what u get its been this way for some time for the cowboys

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

the cowboys have had talented rosters over the last few years and they still don't win when the qb play and coaching is average that's what u get its been this way for some time for the cowboys

We'll say your vague "few years" is 5. 4 of the last 5 years our QB position has exceeded the CAP allocated to that position by a wide margin. This ain't it.

And the other guy is obviously delusional if he thinks we'e had a top 5 roster for the past decade lmao.

 

[cowboyblue22]

its been a long time since the cowboys have had a qb in the playoffs that has been able to be really good aikman was the last one

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

its been a long time since the cowboys have had a qb in the playoffs that has been able to be really good aikman was the last one

264.7 passing yards per game on 34 attempts per game, 7.7 yards per attempt. 280 total yards per game, 7 total TDs to 2 INTs.

Want to guess whose career playoffs numbers those are

Also the 2014 playoff quarterback performance was a clinic. 242 passing yards per game on 25 attempts per game, 9.7 yards per attempt!!!, with 4 TDs and no INTs.

 

[cowboyblue22]

good numbers but In the end they lost the game so it didn't matter it only matters if u win if you go home really early it just don't count the cowboys haven't been a threat to have a deep run in the playoffs since 1995 the coaching and qb play has just not been good enough

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

good numbers but In the end they lost the game so it didn't matter it only matters if u win if you go home really early it just don't count the cowboys haven't been a threat to have a deep run in the playoffs since 1995 the coaching and qb play has just not been good enough

No, no it doesnt only matter if you win. That's just silly.

As I've pointed out, the QB play has been fine to great in the playoffs recently, it's been other parts of the roster that has lead to the losses.

 

[cowboyblue22]

at the end of the day there is one stat in the nfl that tops all others did u win the game nothing else matters that how they determine who wins in the regular season and who wins in the playoffs did u win the game that's all that matters

 

[Hawkeye0202]

There have been prolific passing QB's in the past that never won a championship. There have been bus driver QB's that have rings.

That position isn't about passing to me, although they have to be proficient at that, it is about the right QB for a team. Brady is the right QB for that team because they've been most aware of building a team. Rivers is the right QB for LAC but they've failed to build it right around him and he's had a coaching carousel. But talent wise, I'd put him up there with any I've ever seen.

What we do not know for certain yet is Prescott the right QB for this team? You, and quite a few others with opinions I respect, seem to feel he's not a good enough passer and I agree, there are more accurate passers, but that does not mean he is not the right QB for this team. There is just no ignoring the first three years of his career and there are only two people in the NFL that get the record attached to their name.

I would not rank Prescott in the top 16 from a "prolific" viewpoint when comparing him to the other QB's in passing. However, when I consider the team effect of each QB and all of the elements of playing that position, he breaks the top 10 for me. He has this elusive intangible quality that his former coach Mullen referred to that can't be learned, it is innate in some.

It's like when Bernie Kosar, Joe Kapp and Billy Kilmer played. I looked at them passing and wondered 'how in the hell did they get that job'? Because they won. They weren't pretty to watch but not one of their teammates would have wanted another QB. Prescott certainly doesn't look like them, but he has that same effect on his teammates. Many assume if we take Brady, Brees and Rodgers and insert them into his position they will be more successful but I am not so sure about that.

When they bring a new Clydesdale into the team, they try different combinations to see how they work together and it is not always the prettiest or one that performed the best in individual training that makes the team, it is the one that best understands how to fit into the team.

Waay more to being successful NFL QB that a prolific passer.....in fact, you can make a case of a number of intangibles.

Good post!

 

[silvrNblue]

Does every thread have to turn into a bash Garrett thread? Of course I'm OK with it if it does.

Well, when your the only red onion in a sea of green ones, you stick out like a sore thumb. That's clapper, that red onion. Dude does himself no favors with the fans, clapping over icing his own kicker, clapping when you need a yd and lose 5, clapping when.....

 

[Clarkson]

the Eagles secondary, LBs, and WRs are underwhelming for me. no clue how they have the best roster in the league.

 

[Stash]

its been a long time since the cowboys have had a qb in the playoffs that has been able to be really good aikman was the last one

I would say that this statement is inaccurate. Love him or hate him, Prescott has been very good in the playoff games he's appeared in. He's outperformed nearly every quarterback he's faced, including one who is considered among the best in the league in Aaron Rodgers.

The Cowboys haven't lost in the playoffs because of quarterback play, it's been the defense that has repeatedly let them down.

 

[sean10mm]

Cowboys fans are weird because they always claim to have the most talent and all these disrespected stars and underrated guys, but there's no player they won't turn on in a second either. It's profoundly schizo.

 

[GMO415]

Too bad we don't have Sean Payton now....

 

[aria]

Why do you have to be so negative? Lol!!

Or realistic?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

the Eagles secondary, LBs, and WRs are underwhelming for me. no clue how they have the best roster in the league.

Their secondary underwhelms you? Wow.