The Security Guard Decided To Press Charges On Zeke After All **merged**

[Haimerej]

Say the kid did try to extort him, does that make what Zeke did any more acceptable?

If it was unacceptable the kid should have pressed charges when officers had detained him. Whether or not you like what he did, the only person who has a right to charge him is his, "victim." The, "victim," has already admitted he suffered no damages by virtue of simply asking for an apology. Even his reasoning behind pressing charges now implicitly states he had no expectation of compensation.

 

[Corso]

That worked out so well last time !

Going after a goob Security Guard (no offense to the profession of Security Guarding...) from Las Vegas is slightly different from going after a multi-billion dollar entity that doesn't have to play by the rules.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

It has been ongoing, but for how long we’re not sure.

That doesn’t matter anyway. He doesn’t deserve anything for what happened. He ought to be embarrassed for even trying.

This

 

[aria]

Ok, I have never heard this about the DJ. I did notice it went away quickly. So I am guessing that the DJ was well compensated for his black eye. I heard it was a buddy standing next to Elliot or someone came in from behind him. Elliot will end up in major trouble at some point if he don't stop now..

People who dissect the video try to portray it that way just like some try to say he didn’t throw a shoulder into the security guard. Based on the video, no, there’s not enough evidence and he got lucky. Based on common sense and some of the people that have commented here, he’s guilty as sin.

Put it this way, it would be like saying that big pile of white stuff in front of Odell wasn’t coke. Can you prove it? Nope. Common sense says otherwise. Of course even if it was coke, they would have to prove he was using it which would be impossible. Again, Zeke got lucky and the fact that he was under investigation at the time and still had the balls or stupidity to do that tells you all you need to know, just like this latest incident. Guy was suspended for DOMESTIC VIOLENCE and walks up to a security guard and puts his hands on him! Mind blown.

What’s even more surprising, or maybe not, isn’t the fact that Zeke initiated contact with this guy and has been in a few other incidents, but how many people vilify the security guard. Ok, say the security guard is trying to take advantage, great. Who cares? What about the guy that is actually on our team and who is continuously getting in trouble? There’s only a few that argue Zeke didn’t even touch him, and a few more that think he shouldn’t be disciplined but most agree he shouldn’t have put his hands on someone else.

 

[Haimerej]

Honestly, is it possible that the kid was po’ that he was bullied and looked like a fool but just wanted some sort of punishment or apology and when that didn’t happen he felt slighted?

He got his apology. If he thought Zeke deserved to be punished he should have pressed charges.

There are plenty of instances where someone complains about a co worker, neighbor, etc and when they don’t feel the complaint is rectified through the law or company then they get lawyers involved. It haplens with sexual harassment quite often.

Just because it happens doesn't make it right. I've never understood people going to employers or schools/universities about criminal complaints. It's not an employer's job to seek justice for victims of crimes.

 

[plasticman]

Settlement...
$$$....Some ambulance chaser got their claws on him.

 

[408Cowboy]

I really don’t care. Say the kid did try to extort him, does that make what Zeke did any more acceptable? All that means to me is now we have two d bags instead of just the big headed one.

They're both idiots I just want more to laugh about.

 

[DandyDon52]

If it was unacceptable the kid should have pressed charges when officers had detained him. Whether or not you like what he did, the only person who has a right to charge him is his, "victim." The, "victim," has already admitted he suffered no damages by virtue of simply asking for an apology. Even his reasoning behind pressing charges now implicitly states he had no expectation of compensation.

what about the video being online? do you think that had a negative effect on his life?
E should contact or go see the guy apologize again, to him and his family and cut him a check for x amount to cover the embarrassing video.
and then it would go away.
If he fights it, then they will still be talking this up when the season starts. And goodell might change his mind.
All he has to say is ":upon further review we have decided blah blah".

 

[glimmerman]

So did this guard use the N word or not. That makes a difference IMO..

 

[aria]

If it was unacceptable the kid should have pressed charges when officers had detained him. Whether or not you like what he did, the only person who has a right to charge him is his, "victim." The, "victim," has already admitted he suffered no damages by virtue of simply asking for an apology. Even his reasoning behind pressing charges now implicitly states he had no expectation of compensation.

That’s fine, I never said the kid should win the law suit, I said Zeke should have been punished with a fine and that I was surprised he wasn’t suspended.

 

[aria]

He got his apology. If he thought Zeke deserved to be punished he should have pressed charges.



Just because it happens doesn't make it right. I've never understood people going to employers or schools/universities about criminal complaints. It's not an employer's job to seek justice for victims of crimes.

Some people don’t want to ruin someone’s life by making it criminal and getting the law involved which is understandable.

 

[Haimerej]

what about the video being online? do you think that had a negative effect on his life?
E should contact or go see the guy apologize again, to him and his family and cut him a check for x amount to cover the embarrassing video.

Go after TMZ. Zeke didn't publish it.

 

[aria]

They're both idiots I just want more to laugh about.

Lol, agreed. It’s definitely entertaining but frustrating at the same time that our best player is an absolute moron and some fans blindly support his idiocy.

 

[OmerV]

I am sure he will say there was damage when he fell down. Elliot was in the wrong and he knows it. I heard on these boards that the guard or he thought the guard called him a bad word and that’s why he stepped up to him.

Apparently that was not true. Elliot stepped up to him and gave a little shove and the kid fell over. Every lawyer in the state saw the video and likely reached out to him. The lure of money got to him. The case should have been done with before he went to see goodell. If the kid wanted a better apology then go to his house and play video games and eat pizza with him and say sorry..

This far after the fact it’s going to be very hard to claim damage out of the blue. For the record, I’m not saying Zeke wasn’t wrong. He was. He acted like an idiot. But that doesn’t automatically mean there are grounds for a lawsuit.

 

[Haimerej]

Some people don’t want to ruin someone’s life by making it criminal and getting the law involved which is understandable.

I thought you were talking about a lawsuit. That doesn't affect their life?

 

[OmerV]

Good point which is why I think the league should have fined him. Unfortunately, I doubt a fine would even make Zeke flinch, a 6 game suspension didn’t. It just pisses me off that people are allowed to get away with it. I about lost my sheet the other day when someone jokingly splashed water in my face, it wasn’t straight up them touching me but close enough, I guess it’s one of my bigger pet peeves and I think people who do things like that, especially with strangers, are playing a dangerous game.

Out of all the talk I’ve done and people accusing me of portraying a tough guy image...I’ve never, not once, put my hands on someone first as a security guard or not working security and just being po’d at someone, unless I was breaking up a fight or preventing someone from potentially harming themselves or others.

I’ll be the first to admit, I can have “extreme thoughts” and potential reactions but it blows my mind that some people just walk around bullying others and putting their hands on them. Not only is it wrong but borderline crazy in this day and age. I bet half the people in here that live in TX have a CHL. It doesn’t mean they would use a gun for someone knocking them over, I would hope not, but there are people who would and you don’t know who they are until it happens.

A fine wouldn’t have bothered me a bit. Even a suspension for a game or two. Zeke needs to quit being a ******* and start being a positive representative of the NFL.

But it would bother me if the league changed its mind despite no new evidence. It would look bad to just blow back and forth trying to stay ahead of media reporting and the fickle winds of public perception. Not just look bad - it would be bad. It would also piss me off if the kid tries to pry money out of Zeke.

 

[aria]

I thought you were talking about a lawsuit. That doesn't affect their life?

Sure it does, but I think there’s a big difference between something handled internally vs something that may end up being public record.

 

[cern]

if I were conducting the deposition for zeke, the first question i'd ask of the guard is did you go to the hospital to seek medical attention that day? followed by show me a doctors report describing your injuries. when the answers come back no and no, the case would be over. if he pleaded mental distress i'd ask to be shown a psychologist/therapist's report to support this assertion. he will get nothing. his attorney is probably taking this case in the hope he can get a percentage of the settlement. when he figures out there won't be any, he will drop the suit.

 

[Haimerej]

Sure it does, but I think there’s a big difference between something handled internally vs something that may end up being public record.

True. But I think it depends on the severity of the incident.

 

[Haimerej]

if I were conducting the deposition for zeke, the first question i'd ask of the guard is did you go to the hospital to seek medical attention that day? followed by show me a doctors report describing your injuries. when the answers come back no and no, the case would be over. if he pleaded mental distress i'd ask to be shown a psychologist/therapist's report to support this assertion. he will get nothing. his attorney is probably taking this case in the hope he can get a percentage of the settlement. when he figures out there won't be any, he will drop the suit.

Furthermore, if the resulting, "mental distress," was due to the publishing of the video I would say TMZ would be the responsible party and not Zeke.