Pay Dak/lose player or pay the others and Franchise Dak

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I listen to a few shows over a period of time . I may add a link later . The argument is that Dak is an average QB while Zeke, Cooper , Jaylon, and Byron Jones are all in the top 10 at their position. You would have to take Coopers stats over 9 games and project them over the full 16 to get the gist. The question being why lose players that are elite or have the potential to be elite over an average QB? Just pay that you can first and leave enough to FRANCHISE Dak. Someone could be left out like B Jones but you'd have everyone else paid. If Dak is picked up you get 2 first round picks or you work out a deal. If Dak balls out this season of course you'd pay him a big deal.

The question is what if we get the same production this season as these first three seasons? Is his stat line worth 30+ million?

Dak is a good QB but 30+ for some more of the same?

The key is Dak needs 16 games of what he did when Cooper got here. That's what we need and that's what we expect. If he can give me 16 games of the last 9. I'm happy to pay him. If he somehow reverts back to the first 7 then I'm sorry it's time to find another QB.

The BIG question is are you confident we will get the last 9 games Dak plus an off season with Cooper and the crew or that he just isn't enough? What do you guys think?
 

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You people do realize that the Cowboys for the last 3 seasons have still allocated a huge portion of their salary cap to the QB position right? You people do realize that Romo's salary didn't just disappear after the 2015 season, right?

Dak has ALREADY PROVEN he can win on a team with a large QB contract. This difference is now...and deservedly so...HE would be the one actually getting said salary.
 
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Altestic said:
Pay the others, tag and trade Prescott for a 1st and two 2nds and a 4th.
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Dumb idea.

If Dak is worth all that, it means he is a very good QB and you don’t trade away a very good QB because they’re too hard to find.

If he isn’t very good, you’re not going to get that much compensation for him anyway. It takes two teams to make a trade.

The idea makes zero sense.
 
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DakPresgoat said:
Dumb idea.

If Dak is worth all that, it means he is a very good QB and you don’t trade away a very good QB because they’re too hard to find.

If he isn’t very good, you’re not going to get that much compensation for him anyway. It takes two teams to make a trade.

The idea makes zero sense.
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Incorrect. Even if Dak is the 20th best QB in the NFL, he will have a market. Not every team is the Cowboys and some are struggling teams who struggle to fill the stadium. The Cowboys could go 0-16 for a decade and still fill the stadium because of their brand name. Some teams are much more desperate. Miami comes to mind, especially if they miss out on Tagovailoa for example. Look at how much average joe QBs like Cousins and Flacco, hell even bad ones with a few good games under their belt like Bradford and Glennon got paid.
 
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Altestic said:
Incorrect. Even if Dak is the 20th best QB in the NFL, he will have a market. Not every team is the Cowboys and some are struggling teams who struggle to fill the stadium. The Cowboys could go 0-16 for a decade and still fill the stadium because of their brand name. Some teams are much more desperate. Miami comes to mind, especially if they miss out on Tagovailoa for example. Look at how much average joe QBs like Cousins and Flacco, hell even bad ones with a few good games under their belt like Bradford and Glennon got paid.
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Name the last time a mid level QB was traded for a first and two seconds.

I’ll wait

This never happens in the NFL. For the reasons I outlined before.

Please name these bottom barrel teams that have recently traded for a mid level QB and given around the same compensation you mentioned.
 
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davidariust24 said:
I listen to a few shows over a period of time . I may add a link later . The argument is that Dak is an average QB while Zeke, Cooper , Jaylon, and Byron Jones are all in the top 10 at their position. You would have to take Coopers stats over 9 games and project them over the full 16 to get the gist. The question being why lose players that are elite or have the potential to be elite over an average QB? Just pay that you can first and leave enough to FRANCHISE Dak. Someone could be left out like B Jones but you'd have everyone else paid. If Dak is picked up you get 2 first round picks or you work out a deal. If Dak balls out this season of course you'd pay him a big deal.

The question is what if we get the same production this season as these first three seasons? Is his stat line worth 30+ million?

Dak is a good QB but 30+ for some more of the same?

The key is Dak needs 16 games of what he did when Cooper got here. That's what we need and that's what we expect. If he can give me 16 games of the last 9. I'm happy to pay him. If he somehow reverts back to the first 7 then I'm sorry it's time to find another QB.

The BIG question is are you confident we will get the last 9 games Dak plus an off season with Cooper and the crew or that he just isn't enough? What do you guys think?
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A couple of factors missing from this discussion are the importance of the QB position, and the scarcity of quality players to fill the QB position. There is a big supply and demand problem at QB, and while Dak isn't elite, he is a quality NFL QB, and there aren't many to go around. And the QB position is too valuable to turn away from a quality player and just gamble that something will fall in your lap. Even if the Cowboys had a Top 10 draft pick in 2020, which is highly unlikely, the odds of getting a Blaine Gabbert or Jake Locker or Blake Bortles or Ryan Tannehill is higher than getting a Patrick Mahomes. That's why the price for QB's has sky rocketed.
 
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The Cowboys could go 0-16 for a decade and still fill the stadium because of their brand name. .
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Don't be so sure. That's's why Jerry has to keep this team somewhat relevant. That means at least 8-8 or better. You give a fan base nothing but losing and it will have an effect on the brand. Jerry has to at least give the fans hope.
 

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davidariust24 said:
You would have to take Coopers stats over 9 games and project them over the full 16 to get the gist.
The BIG question is are you confident we will get the last 9 games Dak plus an off season with Cooper and the crew or that he just isn't enough? What do you guys think?
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Wait it's ok to say Cooper is elite based on those games but not Dak? How does that work?

I don't Dak changed much in the last 9 games. He just had Cooper (who no media type ranks in the top 10).
 
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DakPresgoat said:
Name the last time a mid level QB was traded for a first and two seconds.

I’ll wait

This never happens in the NFL. For the reasons I outlined before.

Please name these bottom barrel teams that have recently traded for a mid level QB and given around the same compensation you mentioned.
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I'm saying if the Cowboys win the SB this year. He'll look way better than he is.
 
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