TheMarathonContinues
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NFL doesn’t have to do anything. The players union needs to. The NFL isn’t going to pay backs better out of the kindness of their heart.
1. How can a team pay every player what the players think they're worth?1. Players wanting a bigger piece of the pie hasn’t lost the nfl any fans.
2. Where did I once say “no matter the consequences”. Nowhere did I say that or even infer it.
1. How can a team pay every player what the players think they're worth?
2. Why bother signing a contract if you're not going to honor it?
3. I've been on the side of Zeke remaining with the team. The idea he should get to renegotiate his contract or hold out is weak, at best. Thing is, this is probably fake new and being pushed by some fans.
Not discounting it at all. Just like any job, you go in with rules that were made before you worked there. If your a union hand, then when you first hire on whatever you get was what someone else collective bargain. If you dont like the rule then you go to your union rep and try to get brought up at the next negotiations. There is a new cba coming up, do you think the players are going to vote to get rid of the rookie cap? I think there is 0% chance that will happen. At best they're knock the years down to 4 for 1st round pics with no 5th yr option. Or bump the pay up a bit. But there will no drastic changes to the rookie cap.You’re discounting the fact that “the players” who agreed to the rookie structure were all players already in the league. Kids in college and high school right now never agreed to it.
The rookie contracts screw players who produce at a high level while they are stuck in their contract and can’t renegotiate for 3 years
Not discounting it at all. Just like any job, you go in with rules that were made before you worked there. If your a union hand, then when you first hire on whatever you get was what someone else collective bargain. If you dont like the rule then you go to your union rep and try to get brought up at the next negotiations. There is a new cba coming up, do you think the players are going to vote to get rid of the rookie cap? I think there is 0% chance that will happen. At best they're knock the years down to 4 for 1st round pics with no 5th yr option. Or bump the pay up a bit. But there will no drastic changes to the rookie cap.
The exact opposite of the very beginnings of American Football.The NFL is trending towards eliminating the position. Pretty soon they'll make a rule where you can only pass, no handoffs unless you're at or inside the enemy 2 yard line.
Just like with the state of the country this generation vs its beginnings.... but I don't want to get into politics because I don't want to get in trouble on this board.The exact opposite of the very beginnings of American Football.
My oh my.
I don’t think so TimThe NFL is trending towards eliminating the position. Pretty soon they'll make a rule where you can only pass, no handoffs unless you're at or inside the enemy 2 yard line.
No no...Just like with the state of the country this generation vs its beginnings.... but I don't want to get into politics because I don't want to get in trouble on this board.
Never said you did. That's what the ? means, Its a question.The veterans probably won’t. That’s the point though. I’m not saying it will happen. I never said it will
Happen. The thread simply asks for ideas on how things could be improved for running backs.
I agree that something needs to change for it to be fair.Full disclosure, I'm a running back guy. Love the running game. Emmitt is my favorite Cowboy of all time. Most of my all-time favorite football players are running backs.
That said, the NFL has to do something for these guys contractually. The system is WAY unfair for them.
Most draft picks that become great players take a good while to get there, often 2-3 years or more at the pro level. Then, they're rewarded with a HUGE contract after their rookie deal, and often another huge contract or two after after that one.
But not running backs.
Highly-drafted running backs are generally elite the moment they arrive at rookie OTAs. They're already about as good as they'll ever be, and they step right in and dominate from day one.
Gurley, Peterson, Sanders, Gore, George, Emmitt, Barkley, Zeke, McCoy, Andrews, Dickerson, McCutcheon, Campbell, Sims, Payton, and Dorsett (when Landry finally got over himself and put Tony in for good). There are hundreds of examples of them.
And now Zeke Elliott, who, off-field issues aside, is the most impactful player on the team and has been since his opening game. He's usually the best player on the field in any given game.
The league needs to address the fact that rookie running backs are WAY underpaid compared to the impact other players have initially, and the second contract potential those players have in comparison to running backs.
Often, these backs are a huge percentage of their teams offense, but take such a beating early that they go downhill quickly and never get paid like other players. They're the cheap help, although they are ultra critical to team success.
That needs to change because I don't want to see the best young running backs youth football insist on being converted to other positions over earning potential. Used to be that the best players wanted to play running back. Now, it's like financial death sentence.
Perhaps some sort of cap exception to pay them better? A different rookie scale for running backs to go with it? It's got to be simple to address.
Save the position. Pay these guys.
Ya, I feel really bad for NFL running backs. Make separate rules for running backs and you’re opening a HUGE can of worms. Having said that, it’ll never happen.
Football players get paid more than Engineers, Military personnel, Firemen, etc..
When engineers, military personnel, and fireman can get TV networks to pay billions to broadcast their work you'll have a valid comparison.