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There is one very good reason for the QB, RB and WR's agents to stand their ground and if I were them I would give the club an offer than expires on the day before the season kicks off with the understanding it only goes up frpm there.

He waited to induct the triplets into the ROH together, they were his first center ring act. Then, he had Romo and win or lose, he was worth the price of admission just to watch his act. It's always been about performance.

Do you think he'd be happy with a team like the 85 Bears, 00 Ravens or 03 Bucs? That's Boringball unless you're a real diehard football fan and that's not what he's about.

More than any NFL owner, Booger is all about Starball. He's addressed the entertainment aspect of the game before and that's more important to him than the record because he's witness to it every gameday.

Why do you think he coveted Manziel from his freshman days at A&M? The next center ring act at the Big Top. Think he didn't get all misty eyed the first time Johnny Football played at ATT?

Those 3 agents know they have the upper hand, just as they would have had Bell and Brown been Cowboys, the stars shine the brightest in Dallas. And no owner loves seeing the stars shine like this one. All 3 of these get done before the season starts. Their agents know it and so does Booger and he evidently is already beginning to blink and making new offers that put all 3 in the top 5 paid at their position.

From that point on, triplets will represent something different...…..$$$.
Every word pure blasphemy. That post was written with biased hate for Jerry Jones more than it was written to explain anything really going on.
 

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Great theory.

But do you actually think that these agents are "colluding" on this?

They're individuals, with individual goals. You need only sign one, Amari Cooper. You do that, and you can call any bluff the other two or their agents would like to try. Tag Prescott in 2020 and let him take the risk and play 2019 for $2 million. And let Elliott simply rot out there, a running back getting a year older and losing his spot in the machine that is the Cowboys line and running game.

Cooper is the one you have to sign.
sounds good, but I doubt jones boys do it like that.
 

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In theory, sounds good. But given the violence of football, any player is one hit away from a season or career ending injury. Romo returned to us in 2016 after missing almost all of the previous year, supposedly healthier and better tested than ever. One hit in the preseason and it was over.
Romo sat out all year because of an injury. Zeke has been kind of injury free.
 

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I'm coming around to the idea that Zeke might just sit out. And that it makes sense for him to do so.

It's not chronological age with RBs, it's how many years of elite play that you have in your body.

Taking a year sabbatical when you can only make 4mil, use that saved mileage of elite play for a year when you're paid like an elite player. The year sabbatical might actually give you more years of elite play in the end.

Give your body a full healing after three years, be fresh and healthy to look good in your 5th year as you're auditioning for your free agent contract.

How about the word that his $4 million salary will simply roll until 2020 if he doesn't show up? He'd be playing for that same $4 million in 2020 anyway.
 

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Romo sat out all year because of an injury. Zeke has been kind of injury free.
Everyone is injury free until the first one. Qb's are the least likely to be injured. Rb's among the most likely. That's really what the guaranteed/bonus money is all about.
 

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Sir, are you under the impression that this is boxing or some other 1 vs 1 sport?
Are you under the impression Dak's agent cares what you think? lol.
Russell Wilson was Dak before Dak.
He was underrated and insulted and SEA was built around running the ball.
SEA shifted money to Wilson and the passing game and now everyone views him as some savant....In that playoff game those two guys were nearly identical.
I mean eerily similar versus the same defensive schemes.

DAL will OBVIOUSLY counter with Wilson has won more big games and all that but I assure you Dak's agent will be asking for Russ money and if Dak is patient he will likely get it though that may mean playing out this entire season for peanuts and playing well.
 

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every deal an agent makes adds to his resume in procuring new clients. ergo they always go for the throat.
And that Bell holdout did not turn out like they planned, the agents need a win on a hold out. Especially with the CBA coming up.
 

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Every word pure blasphemy. That post was written with biased hate for Jerry Jones more than it was written to explain anything really going on.
Well, that's your opinion and I have all of Booger's history to form mine. So, you are saying this team, this owner, doesn't have a history of paying his stars too much? Doesn't lean heavily to the O side of the team?
 

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Well, that's your opinion and I have all of Booger's history to form mine. So, you are saying this team, this owner, doesn't have a history of paying his stars too much? Doesn't lean heavily to the O side of the team?
Correction, you have your interpretation of Jerry's history. I haven't said a thing in this thread about this team or Jerry's M.O. so don't go putting words in my mouth.
 

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Correction, you have your interpretation of Jerry's history. I haven't said a thing in this thread about this team or Jerry's M.O. so don't go putting words in my mouth.
LMAO, I don't need interpretation when I see him signing his stars. Interpretation would be guessing at his motives and I have done that on some things but if it isn't apparent to you that he's a follow the ball GM and all about his stars, can't help you on that, Joe.

I have noticed you don't really try to comprehend what I write and respond as much as you just react. And I noticed you didn't answer the questions, just fired back about "words in your mouth" when I simply asked you two questions. You are more focused on disliking me than answering my questions or truly arguing my points. You fall back on this all being about my not liking Booger. Even if I do not like him, is what I am saying not evidenced by his actions?
 

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Great theory.

But do you actually think that these agents are "colluding" on this?

They're individuals, with individual goals. You need only sign one, Amari Cooper. You do that, and you can call any bluff the other two or their agents would like to try. Tag Prescott in 2020 and let him take the risk and play 2019 for $2 million. And let Elliott simply rot out there, a running back getting a year older and losing his spot in the machine that is the Cowboys line and running game.

Cooper is the one you have to sign.
Exactly, I just can't see paying a qb who becomes practically impotent as a passer when either of the elite RB or #1 WR are removed from the equation 30 million per season. Sign the other 2, tag him and see if anyone else will. Match it or take the pick if they do but I dont see anyone else doing it either... let him come back down to the really real world!
 

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Exactly, I just can't see paying a qb who becomes practically impotent as a passer when either of the elite RB or #1 WR are removed from the equation 30 million per season. Sign the other 2, tag him and see if anyone else will. Match it or take the pick if they do but I dont see anyone else doing it either... let him come back down to the really real world!

Or give him the opportunit to actually earn it this year. Just like his head coach has the opportunity to earn a hefty contract extension or a pink slip.
 

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Or give him the opportunit to actually earn it this year. Just like his head coach has the opportunity to earn a hefty contract extension or a pink slip.
That would be fine if they hadn't brought up extending him, they opened this up. And they've continued to talk to the media about it.

This top 5 offer, is that the guarantee or the funny money? They play the funny money game and the agent and player are only interested in the guarantee and that's all we should really look at. If we look at anything having to do with the money side.

To tell the truth, I don't care what they pay any of them as I've spent a lot of my time trying to avoid the business side of the sport and keep it a game and this has gotten old for me. This has overshadowed anything of football substantiality and while "Let's Make a Deal" spins on, the HC thinks the team ain't too sharp. The FA DE has a fractured hand needing surgery, Lee is limping again and the news is mixed on Yosemite and his readiness to start the season.
 

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Zeke wants this:

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Or give him the opportunit to actually earn it this year. Just like his head coach has the opportunity to earn a hefty contract extension or a pink slip.
Oh please, Garrett gets a much deserved 3 year extension by week 6!
 

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I welcome you to tell me how wrong I was when that happens. I've been wrong before and will be again.
Lol! I had an equation of why this is so, the last time I was drunk but alas I'm sober right now and cant remember!
 

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LMAO, I don't need interpretation when I see him signing his stars. Interpretation would be guessing at his motives and I have done that on some things but if it isn't apparent to you that he's a follow the ball GM and all about his stars, can't help you on that, Joe.

I have noticed you don't really try to comprehend what I write and respond as much as you just react. And I noticed you didn't answer the questions, just fired back about "words in your mouth" when I simply asked you two questions. You are more focused on disliking me than answering my questions or truly arguing my points. You fall back on this all being about my not liking Booger. Even if I do not like him, is what I am saying not evidenced by his actions?
I understand a great deal more than I'll ever share with you. I'm perfectly okay with you thinking what you do abut me because it just shows what a poor observer you are of others that post on here. I think I have a much better grasp on the person Jerry Jones is than you do, which is why I disagree with so much of what you say about him. So you go right ahead confirming what I already think about your opinion of Jerry. He's not the person you make him out to be. He is a brilliant businessman, family man and generous human being with his money and time.
 

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I understand a great deal more than I'll ever share with you. I'm perfectly okay with you thinking what you do abut me because it just shows what a poor observer you are of others that post on here. I think I have a much better grasp on the person Jerry Jones is than you do, which is why I disagree with so much of what you say about him. So you go right ahead confirming what I already think about your opinion of Jerry. He's not the person you make him out to be. He is a brilliant businessman, family man and generous human being with his money and time.
Have I ever said he wasn't any of those things you mentioned?

You still haven't answered the question, is he a follow the ball owner or not? Here's a hint, Joe, they're all follow the ball owners, which is why most of them don't GM their own team.

The only things I've said about Booger are that I do not like are his personality and need to constantly be the center of attention and seek the spotlight. I think he's a horrible speaker and I avoid exposure to him in order to stay a fan of the team. That's my choice and my opinion of him and I have no problem with your opinion of him, I really don't care about anyone else's opinion of him because he is not the face of the team to me as some have made him.

I do wonder, are you part of the Highland Park Hillbilly clan? You sure are twitchy about ole Boogsy Woogsy.
 
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