Dak and Zeke dont care about championships

[erod]

people seriously have no idea what money is. the difference between $50M and $100M is ENORMOUS. the true wealth gap there is hard to fathom unless you see it in some way. the difference in the wealth of a person with $100M and $250M is insane.

to act as if $20M doesn't make a real difference...yeah, sorry, you have no experience with that kind of money. i don't personally have anything like that, but have worked with a friend managing investments of very wealthy people...suggesting it's "diminishing marginal utility" is hilariously ignorant.

Lol.

You have to realize these are the same people that would first buy a wall aquarium with that money.

 

[waldoputty]

All of who? Don't include me in your whining, please.

actually it is not whining.
just calling them out for what they are.
championship is not a priority for them.

 

[waldoputty]

What's going on here is that Dak truly believes he's got the Jones boys over a barrel. Some of that is of their own making by coming out so publicly on how Dak's the QB of the future and forever. I have very much altered my personal opinion of Dak as this indicates his unwillingness to allow room for supporting players on the roster. It truly is about himself and this is (used to be), a team effort.

I will bet the ranch on the fact that not one other NFL team would pay this guy anything approaching $40M .. and THAT is the deciding factor. If this is his stance then you can let him go as far as I'm concerned.

I once took less of a raise so that a couple guys I knew were integral to our operation could get raises - and we sure weren't talking about the excess money these fools are throwing around.

i dont think dak has them over a barrel.
his pay is $2m this year.
then there is 2 years of franchise tag or more.
if he fails, his worth goes down.
cowboys can draft qbs high which they should

 

[waldoputty]

Only about 3% of NFL players win a SB each year. Make your money while you can. This is their livelihood, SBs are great, but that ring won't take care of your family for the next 60 years. Grow up Waldo! Lol!

actually they have more money for the next 100 years for themselves, their kids and their grandkids etc.
it is not the difference between 100 million and 50 million.
in essence, it is the difference between 80 million and 100 million, with the numbers just for comparison sake.

 

[waldoputty]

ok bud. again, it's easy to say when you'll never have to make that choice. athletes in every single sport OVERWHELMINGLY opt to get the most money they can because it's only logical to do so. it's cute you think you'd be different and your definition of "noble," but sorry champ - in all likelihood...na.

if it is all about money, then the discussion should be about money
how to squeeze the last drop of benefit out of the money.
start with no extension for dak, franchise him next season while drafting a qb 1st round.
if the drafted qb does well, use the franchise tag or the other tag to get leverage to trade him for a package.
same thing with zeke.

 

[waldoputty]

people seriously have no idea what money is. the difference between $50M and $100M is ENORMOUS. the true wealth gap there is hard to fathom unless you see it in some way. the difference in the wealth of a person with $100M and $250M is insane.

to act as if $20M doesn't make a real difference...yeah, sorry, you have no experience with that kind of money. i don't personally have anything like that, but have worked with a friend managing investments of very wealthy people...suggesting it's "diminishing marginal utility" is hilariously ignorant.

diminishing marginal utility is a well known economic concept.
i may not be that rich, but know people that rich.
at a certain point, the enjoyment becomes diminishing.
there are those with family investment teams, but then it just becomes a business.
so if it is just a business to the players, then lets not talk about things like "they earned it" and treat these players like commodities that they are acting like.

many top nba players take less to win a championship when they have the opportunity.
they opt not to take the super-max to give themselves the opportunity to insure winning a championship to the best they can.

 

[waldoputty]

I assume this was written tongue in cheek, but if not, or if others take it seriously, Zach Martin and Travis Frederick's contracts made them the highest paid OG and C in the NFL, and Tyron signed a monster deal as well.

not tongue and cheek.
i recall tsmith contract was a bargain from the beginning.
though tfred contract was also.

the deal for dak and zeke and the others coming up would be debilitating for the club no matter how good they are with the cap.
so if the players want to be mercenary, then so should the fans and stop talking about such and such 'earning the money' and use them like commodities that they are.

 

[cern]

The contract negotiations are ongoing. No one here knows the final outcome. Just business as usual in the nfl.

 

[bsbellomy]

people seriously have no idea what money is. the difference between $50M and $100M is ENORMOUS. the true wealth gap there is hard to fathom unless you see it in some way. the difference in the wealth of a person with $100M and $250M is insane.

to act as if $20M doesn't make a real difference...yeah, sorry, you have no experience with that kind of money. i don't personally have anything like that, but have worked with a friend managing investments of very wealthy people...suggesting it's "diminishing marginal utility" is hilariously ignorant.

Lecturing someone on the wealth gap, spoken from the experienced position of...…...someone who knows someone that knows someone who has money?

 

[beware_d-ware]

Imagine if your manager came to you and said, "You're not a team player, CZ poster. You need to take 20% less for the good of the company!" You'd tell him to screw right off.

But football fans are fans of the team, not fans of the players (have any of you guys checked on Anthony Spencer in a while?), so they are all biased with the company-side perspective.

 

[Rockport]

What bothers all of us is their contract demands tell us about their desire for a championship, or lack thereof.
They just want to grab every dollar even though they know there is a cap limit.
They know their demands really hurt the chances of a championship because there is a limit to what tricks can be played with the cap.

They are negotiating. Take a deep breath, pull em out and relax.

 

[Ranching]

actually they have more money for the next 100 years for themselves, their kids and their grandkids etc.
it is not the difference between 100 million and 50 million.
in essence, it is the difference between 80 million and 100 million, with the numbers just for comparison sake.

Bentley's are expensive!!!!!

 

[Ranching]

not tongue and cheek.
i recall tsmith contract was a bargain from the beginning.
though tfred contract was also.

the deal for dak and zeke and the others coming up would be debilitating for the club no matter how good they are with the cap.
so if the players want to be mercenary, then so should the fans and stop talking about such and such 'earning the money' and use them like commodities that they are.

Keep your tounge out of Daks cheeks!!!

 

[OmerV]

not tongue and cheek.
i recall tsmith contract was a bargain from the beginning.
though tfred contract was also.

the deal for dak and zeke and the others coming up would be debilitating for the club no matter how good they are with the cap.
so if the players want to be mercenary, then so should the fans and stop talking about such and such 'earning the money' and use them like commodities that they are.

Tyron Smith is still the 9th highest paid LT and he signed his contract extension in 2014, and I think restructured once to help the team out.

And, as I said, both Martin and Frederick became the highest paid players at their positions.

 

[Big_D]

I know business is business, but it certainly doesn't seem like they care.

 

[rdskn4eva]

Can someone PLEASE explain why its ok for NBA and MLB players to grab every dollar they can, when they have long careers, but if NFL players have comparably short careers and try to get every dollar they can, they are seen as selfish? Its not the players job to build the roster and build a championship team.

I mean, NFL players get paid less than other sports, dont have guaranteed contracts, can be cut and released pretty much anytime, have to deal with WAYYYYY more injuries during their career and during retirement and have shorter careers.

Yet they are supposed to "take one for the team".

Why?

 

[TwoDeep3]

With respect, it most certainly guarantees there will be more money available to compensate higher caliber players to support the overall effort. So there's that ...

This team does no go after high caliber players. Theyt wait until the blue light special is on and then do something that isn't even akin to a splash.

 

[aikemirv]

Since these guys started college they have been told that everybody is making a killing off them and they are not getting their fare share. First it was the colleges and now it is the owners.

It is part of the current political climate and the disdain for Capitalism- trying to not get political but they think they are the game and that they created it. They didn't, and the money flowing in is because the owners made this league and this business and have made it successful!

 

[waldoputty]

Keep your tounge out of Daks cheeks!!!

no, you have first licks and all licks

 

[AbeBeta]

Cord cutting and phone watching does account for part of it, but I personally know several people that have turned the NFL off for good. They just don't care about it anymore.

I know I watch a lot less than I used to, and there's no bigger NFL fan than me.

Anecdotes do not equal data.