News: Now this is how you handle malcontents who don’t honor the contract they signed

[ABQCOWBOY]

You never showed where they paid him this year, stop with the temper tantrum and just enjoy your day out of school, good luck in your 8th grade classes this year. I'm done.

You are not talking to your kids here. Don't act like you even have credence on this matter. You, in short, are clueless or dishonest, take your pick. He got paid or that money would have never hit the cap year. You don't listen well either, so I'm not surprised you are incapable of understanding the simplicities of contracts. But you are right on your last, you are done.

 

[waldoputty]

He doesnt care about the accrued year if he gets a new contract in the end and reporting anytime this year would prevent that. If he has not reported by then I don't expect him to report.

the human body ages even without playing football
he cannot afford to lose earning money during the remaining ~3 years of his prime
they should rescind that overly generous contract offer

 

[PUSHfold]

Again. The "honor the contract" thing is total garbage.

For example, we signed Hurns to a two year 12 mill deal. We cut him after a year.

Yet no one is crying about how the team didn't honor the contract.

It's in the contract that the team can cancel it otherwise it wouldn't happen, he was paid any guaranteed money he was owed.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

An RB needs to get their money when they can because they can hit a wall at any time. Zeke accounts for a large percentage of our offense and the workload is mounting on him. An injury or injuries are going to start popping up with him sooner or later. Once the injuries start coming he’s not getting a big pay day. Emmitt got paid because he was productive and he stayed healthy. Emmitt signed his rookie deal in 1990 and received his new deal in 1993.

All of this is true KJJ but here's the thing. Zeke is going to continue to carry this kind of load, regardless of who he plays for. What I mean by this is if we limited his carries, in an attempt to try and save his career, he'd be pissed off and eventually either force an increased role in the offense or force a trade to a team that would increase that. Zeke, IMO, wants the carries because he wants to chase records. But see, the team knows this and so does Zeke. Now this is where it becomes interesting to me. Lets say the team is more interested in saving Zeke to make his career last. Lets say that they would like to see him play for 10 years or so, how do you do that and keep him? I mean, the only real way to justify the type of contract that Zeke wants is to keep him around and productive. RB is not that kind of position. It's short lived by nature and that's just the truth and interestingly enough, it's a truth on both sides of this issue. Those in support of a record contract use that for reason to justify him breaking his contract and holding out. Those who never want to see that kind of contract awarded use it as reason why you don't get into big money, long term deals with RBs because they won't live to the end of it and you end up with large amounts of dead cap.

So if you know all this, then how do you even start to comply with Zeke's demands even if you want to. I mean, there is no way to win this kind of thing. The team is not wrong here, IMO. Zeke wants to get paid big money that will probably end up killing whatever team pays him, to do what he is going to do anyway. He wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. I mean, I don't blame him for that. Heck, who doesn't want that but you can't really blame the team for trying to do the smart thing either.

I would not do it but I'm not making the decision.

 

[MarcusRock]

An RB needs to get their money when they can because they can hit a wall at any time. Zeke accounts for a large percentage of our offense and the workload is mounting on him. An injury or injuries are going to start popping up with him sooner or later. Once the injuries start coming he’s not getting a big pay day. Emmitt got paid because he was productive and he stayed healthy. Emmitt signed his rookie deal in 1990 and received his new deal in 1993.

Injuries are the name of the game and if you've been a beast for 3 years without injury, you don't want to chance it any more than you have to before you get paid, especially for a running back as you've said which is why this year is the opportune time to push the envelope. It's not without precedent, so you're not wrong for going about it this way. The team can choose to deal or not. The team is choosing to try to get a deal done which means it was a good move on Zeke's end (WITH leverage) contrary to the "bad advice" spiel by the "deny Zeke anything" crew, posting on begrudged feelings. Business sans emotion is a good policy. Money now is always better than money later no matter what industry, thus here we are.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The owners have literally fought tooth and nail for a system that allows them to not honor contracts.

Open your eyes. Support the workers

This is political.

 

[John813]

that may be, but does he have to give the money back? or is it deducted from salary?

It was to be deducted in future payments I assume over his remaining 2 years of his 4 year contract.

 

[AbeBeta]

This is political.

It is not.

It is literally Labor Day, a holiday that honors workers. Is it political when people honor Vets on veteran's day?


Stand with the workers.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It is not.

It is literally Labor Day, a holiday that honors workers. Is it political when people honor Vets on veteran's day?


Stand with the workers.

Don't BS me, I know you. You have those kinds of questions, you know how to contact Reality and ask him. My job used to be putting you straight on this stuff, it's not anymore. I'm just telling you, that's political and you and I know it, even if you are not going to admit it. Steer clear of it, is my friendly advice to you, which you and I both know, I don't owe you. It's yours to take heed of or not.

 

[tomsanders921]

Again. The "honor the contract" thing is total garbage.

For example, we signed Hurns to a two year 12 mill deal. We cut him after a year.

Yet no one is crying about how the team didn't honor the contract.

That's where the guaranteed money comes in. You can't expect teams to hold onto players that severely underplay their contracts. Players know teams can release them at any point. It's up to the players to perform up to the money they are being paid. If they don't like the guaranteed money, don't sign the contract. I agree teams should work in good faith and reward those that outplay their contract. But Zeke still has two years left and is going about it the wrong way.

He is lucky Dallas even offered him what they did. He's holding out with two years left on a rookie deal and reports are he was offered to be the 2nd highest paid RB. Not to mention he has red flags all over him.

In my personal opinion, I don't think they should pay him that much since they have so many other young talented players at positions that are harder to fill that are due for new contracts soon. I would try and trade him and be done with it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That's where the guaranteed money comes in. You can't expect teams to hold onto players that severely underplay their contracts. Players know teams can release them at any point. It's up to the players to perform up to the money they are being paid. If they don't like the guaranteed money, don't sign the contract. I agree teams should work in good faith and reward those that outplay their contract. But Zeke still has two years left and is going about it the wrong way.

He is lucky Dallas even offered him what they did. He's holding out with two years left on a rookie deal and reports are he was offered to be the 2nd highest paid RB. Not to mention he has red flags all over him.

In my personal opinion, I don't think they should pay him that much since they have so many other young talented players at positions that are harder to fill that are due for new contracts soon. I would try and trade him and be done with it.

Even players know that you can't fully guarantee contracts in the NFL. I was listening to Marcellus Wiley on Fox Sports the other day and they were discussing this. They were talking about guaranteed contracts around the round table and Wiley was sitting there, shaking his head. They asked him why and he was like, "You can't guarantee contracts in the NFL. That's a bad idea." He was asked why and he just said, "Trust me, you don't want guaranteed contracts for players in the NFL." I thought that was interesting. I mean, I've always believed that but I thought it was interesting that a former player would say that publicly.

 

[AbeBeta]

Don't BS me, I know you. You have those kinds of questions, you know how to contact Reality and ask him. My job used to be putting you straight on this stuff, it's not anymore. I'm just telling you, that's political and you and I know it, even if you are not going to admit it. Steer clear of it, is my friendly advice to you, which you and I both know, I don't owe you. It's yours to take heed of or not.

Supporting the players over the owners is not political.

Happy Labor Day to all the workers!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Supporting the players over the owners is not political.

Happy Labor Day to all the workers!

Suit yourself.

Support the Team is the only logical way to look at this. The team, if run by good ownership, will take care of the players in a reasonable business fashion. If ownership fails to do this, then stop supporting the team. Support the players is crazy because they are essentially mercenaries for the most part. It didn't used to be that way and some of them are still unique but most see it as a business. They will go to whatever team that offers the best deal. I understand this and I have no issue with it, under the circumstances of how the league works. However, it is foolish to take the stance, support the players because they could be gone in a few seasons, playing for a rival that is beating your team. No thanks, that's not the way to be a fan IMO.

You wanna support the players, that's fine with me but that's what you are really supporting, assuming we bought your whole, "This isn't political" shtick.

 

[LittleD]

...then I'd suspect you may not witness the Boys hoisting the Trophy. That mindset is very scary. Hope you're self-employed or a business owner. Trade Zeke! and hello another 20+ years of mediocrity.

You guys will just buy any joke that comes down the pike. This team never had a shot as long as Garrett and his Linehan clone are running the offense. Garrett is not a viable
HC and this team will never win another trophy until Jerry clears his head and hires a real coach. Sorry...just not happening.

 

[DanA]

Supporting the players over the owners is not political.

Happy Labor Day to all the workers!

If you want to support the worker then increase the salary cap and raise the UDFA min or practice squad salary. The Cowboys will always pay 100% of the salary cap (long term). Paying Zeke more means a lower paid “worker” gets less.

Zeke is a one percenter, he ain’t one of the workers anymore.

 

[CB61]

There is a big difference between this and the Zeke situation. First the nobody cares about the Charges. If Jerry said this it would be the only thing on ESPN for the next 2 weeks. Also the Chargers are nowhere close to being a SB caliber team, That most people see the Cowboys as. Gordon isn't going to put them over the top the way Zeke has the potential to for the Cowboys.
Still it's refreshing to here a GM say enough is enough.

Yet they seem to beat us every year they play us

 

[AbeBeta]

Suit yourself.

Support the Team is the only logical way to look at this. The team, if run by good ownership, will take care of the players in a reasonable business fashion. If ownership fails to do this, then stop supporting the team. Support the players is crazy because they are essentially mercenaries for the most part. It didn't used to be that way and some of them are still unique but most see it as a business. They will go to whatever team that offers the best deal. I understand this and I have no issue with it, under the circumstances of how the league works. However, it is foolish to take the stance, support the players because they could be gone in a few seasons, playing for a rival that is beating your team. No thanks, that's not the way to be a fan IMO.

No. Support the workers. Many of whom will be physically damaged for the rest of their lives once they aren't useful to the team anymore. Support them in making the maximum amount they can in their short careers. They will soon be discarded by the team.

They should be mercenaries. No one has their backs after the league is done with them.

Literally, today of all days you choose to argue against the workers. On a national holiday that honors them.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I support the Dallas Cowboys. Team first.

Bingo. Listening to some folks on here i'm not sure if they are cowboy fans or just have Zeke on their fantasy football team.

 

[waldoputty]

Supporting the players over the owners is not political.

Happy Labor Day to all the workers!

political bias exposed

too bad it is to the detriment of the average nfl player for the stars to get more and more of the pie

 

[AbeBeta]

political bias exposed

too bad it is to the detriment of the average nfl player for the stars to get more and more of the pie

You are making a national holiday political?

Is it not then political to wish vets a happy Veterans Day? Or to honor those lost in service to the nation on Memorial Day? Heck, we sometimes have pinned threads for those holidays.