Let’s clarify what passing accuracy really means

CowboyRoy

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It's not just that.

Dak is legitimately evolving into one of the best in the NFL.

And they still can't see it.

He definitely is. But if a few of our lineman go down and the pressure starts again, these games will be less consistent.

Trolls will be trolls. I just enjoy watching them squirm after a game like this.
 

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According to Moore, Dak told him he lost grip on the ball, he kind of double clutched it to try to get a grip and did what he had to so that Jarwin had a chance to make a play on the ball

From the replay that’s what I thought had happened.
 

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Here’s a simple definition of QB passing accuracy I really like: The QB’s passes are where the receiver can catch them.

I don’t know about you, but the Dak critics that continually point out that his passes don’t look pretty enough or he missed this throw or that throw are either not paying attention or will never accept Dak’s abilities. He may never be a top 5 QB in this league but if your QB helps you win, who cares? Dak will have a bad game at some point this year as he has had in the past. Happens to every QB. But he has had and will have a lot more good ones than bad IMO.

NFL history is littered with QBs who threw beautiful tight spirals in tight windows...and were perennial losers. How about the much ballyhooed (in his day) Jeff George, who had a great arm and an ego to match. He played and lost for multiple NFL teams and will fade from memory quicker than many QBs with less ability. Who could forget the canon arm of JeMarcus Russell? Or our former backup and former Browns #1 pick Brandon Weeden who Jerry said threw the prettiest pass?

What I care about are QBs that can throw the ball accurate enough for our receivers to catch it. I’m not that impressed with how tight the spiral is. That’s cool and all but just get it there so the receivers can catch it. Be a leader and don’t kill us with turnovers.

Remember the Bears’ Jim McMahon? He didn’t throw the prettiest ball but he will show you his super bowl ring if you point that out. And he was a great leader who just won. Or Joe Kapp of the Vikings or Billy Kilmer of the skins who both threw more wounded ducks than anyone I can remember. But somehow they both took teams to SBs.

Accuracy= The receiver can catch it. Dak is an accurate QB by that metric.
Dak's ball looks better this year and some of us talked about it during the preseason. He definitely carried that through yesterday. There were a couple of balls that maybe could have been better placed but there was A LOT of YAC and not just down the middle but on crossing routes. YAC requires accurate throws.

My whole thing this offseason about signing Dak to a big contract was 'uncertainty' about his status -- we talked about how he looked like he was maybe turning the corner at the end of last year, but was he actually going to make it around the turn. That seemed like an unknown, and although nobody knows more about Dak's progression than the coaches and Jones do, I personally was still concerned.

He'll have bad games, and probably have games where his inaccuracies show up again. But it's obvious that he is seeing the field more clearly and anticipating where the ball needs to go. We saw that begin last year and is in itself is huge. Now with the offseason we are seeing in the preseason and yesterday that his mechanics have changed to the point where his throws are noticeably crisper and on target. I mean personally I'm sold, and will be among the defenders of Dak when his next bad game occurs.

I was a huge Romo fan and he was definitely more than good enough to win the big game. Dak is too and I'm grateful we got him, least we not forgot we almost ended up with Paxton Lynch.
 

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And everyone enjoys seeing you hide under your rock when these “less consistent” games happen...

LOL...…….Ok, you go ahead and point those out when I don't show up.

One thing is for sure...…………...I don't pout when my young QB has a great game or my team wins. That's what trolls do.
 

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No doubt. Just don’t expect that every week. Sunday was a benchmark highlight day for Dak. Those days don’t happen very often even for guys like Brady and Rodgers.
It hasn’t happened in 50 years in Cowboy history( Perfect rating- Craig Morton). Roger and Troy never did it.

Troy on the broadcast. “ I’ve heard that before. I came close once but never understood how you could be perfect without completing all your passes”. Lol

It was a career day by Dak . It should be applauded. But we’ll need to see it consistently done especially against more Elite teams and in January before we anoint him a prolific passer.
 

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Here’s a simple definition of QB passing accuracy I really like: The QB’s passes are where the receiver can catch them.

I don’t know about you, but the Dak critics that continually point out that his passes don’t look pretty enough or he missed this throw or that throw are either not paying attention or will never accept Dak’s abilities. He may never be a top 5 QB in this league but if your QB helps you win, who cares? Dak will have a bad game at some point this year as he has had in the past. Happens to every QB. But he has had and will have a lot more good ones than bad IMO.

NFL history is littered with QBs who threw beautiful tight spirals in tight windows...and were perennial losers. How about the much ballyhooed (in his day) Jeff George, who had a great arm and an ego to match. He played and lost for multiple NFL teams and will fade from memory quicker than many QBs with less ability. Who could forget the canon arm of JeMarcus Russell? Or our former backup and former Browns #1 pick Brandon Weeden who Jerry said threw the prettiest pass?

What I care about are QBs that can throw the ball accurate enough for our receivers to catch it. I’m not that impressed with how tight the spiral is. That’s cool and all but just get it there so the receivers can catch it. Be a leader and don’t kill us with turnovers.

Remember the Bears’ Jim McMahon? He didn’t throw the prettiest ball but he will show you his super bowl ring if you point that out. And he was a great leader who just won. Or Joe Kapp of the Vikings or Billy Kilmer of the skins who both threw more wounded ducks than anyone I can remember. But somehow they both took teams to SBs.

Accuracy= The receiver can catch it. Dak is an accurate QB by that metric.

I fall somewhere in between this argument. I think Dak's accuracy has improved, but some passes behind receivers are still happening and often have the potential to become picks. The good news is that Dak's passes in this game were not as far behind receivers as they were at times in the past (which gave his receivers a chance to make a play on the ball). Let's hope he continues to build his rapport with receivers and we see less of this as the season goes on.

Dak made several outstanding throws too and in the end, you can't argue with the result.
 

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The tougher the defense the more crucial accuracy is. Part of accuracy is ball placement. How do you elevate your wr's play in a playoff game against good DB's? Gotta put the ball where your guy can make the play. Just being close isnt always good enough.
 

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Here’s a simple definition of QB passing accuracy I really like: The QB’s passes are where the receiver can catch them.

I don’t know about you, but the Dak critics that continually point out that his passes don’t look pretty enough or he missed this throw or that throw are either not paying attention or will never accept Dak’s abilities. He may never be a top 5 QB in this league but if your QB helps you win, who cares? Dak will have a bad game at some point this year as he has had in the past. Happens to every QB. But he has had and will have a lot more good ones than bad IMO.

NFL history is littered with QBs who threw beautiful tight spirals in tight windows...and were perennial losers. How about the much ballyhooed (in his day) Jeff George, who had a great arm and an ego to match. He played and lost for multiple NFL teams and will fade from memory quicker than many QBs with less ability. Who could forget the canon arm of JeMarcus Russell? Or our former backup and former Browns #1 pick Brandon Weeden who Jerry said threw the prettiest pass?

What I care about are QBs that can throw the ball accurate enough for our receivers to catch it. I’m not that impressed with how tight the spiral is. That’s cool and all but just get it there so the receivers can catch it. Be a leader and don’t kill us with turnovers.

Remember the Bears’ Jim McMahon? He didn’t throw the prettiest ball but he will show you his super bowl ring if you point that out. And he was a great leader who just won. Or Joe Kapp of the Vikings or Billy Kilmer of the skins who both threw more wounded ducks than anyone I can remember. But somehow they both took teams to SBs.

Accuracy= The receiver can catch it. Dak is an accurate QB by that metric.

But that does not fit their narrative. Dak has a perfect passing rating game so they have to dig deep. Now it's "omg the ball was not perfect!!, see, he's no good!. They will never be satisfied because they built up so much hatred for him, they have to hang on for an ego thing.
 

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But that does not fit their narrative. Dak has a perfect passing rating game so they have to dig deep. Now it's "omg the ball was not perfect!!, see, he's no good!. They will never be satisfied because they built up so much hatred for him, they have to hang on for an ego thing.
It's really been shocking to see posters call a perfect game only good, wail on about the 7 incompletes, and pretend like calling out the ones who have some unreasonable hate for this young man is bad in some sorta weird way
 

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It truly is a sad day when fans have to justify the play of the QB after hitting 78% 4 TD in a 35 to 17 win, Really? Believe I am not trying to put him in Canton but he deserves the support of Cowboy Nation
 

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I know ya'll think we're hating on Dak. Well, I guess some are. But when I point out that he still needs to work on accuracy, especially on the short throws where he still has a tendency to throw behind the receiver, minimizing YAC and sometimes opening the pass up to be knocked down or intercepted, I'm just sharing my observations.

I don't get caught up in the numbers. Stats can be deceiving, especially against a weak opponent. I still don't think the Ravens are awesome even though they torched the hapless Fins. And I don't think the Cowboys are "the best team in the NFC" because the beat the stinky Giants who don't even know how to use their best player on offense. And that defense is pretty bad too.

Dak looked solid, had an excellent game, but some of those throws, especially the easy, short ones, they should be better. Even he would say that. Leaving a yard or two on the field here and there, it matters in the close games....because football in many ways is a game of inches.

Having said that, I do love Dak, and I look forward to seeing him and Moore gel together throughout the first few months of this season. I always thought that both the defense and offense were held back by their coordinators. Moore just may be the breath of fresh air Dak and the offense needed, but too early to tell....because the Gnats stink.
 

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It truly is a sad day when fans have to justify the play of the QB after hitting 78% 4 TD in a 35 to 17 win, Really? Believe I am not trying to put him in Canton but he deserves the support of Cowboy Nation

This is a fair point. Still, I think that you can acknowledge that Dak is still a developing QB, despite playing well. His perfect PR was helped by four off-target passes that were caught that could have easily been dropped or even picked. That being said, I really like Dak's new approach and his mechanics seem sounder than in the past. Definite improvement in getting ball out of his hand faster and getting the ball to his receivers coming out of their breaks. I'm really looking forward to seeing him develop even more as the season goes on. There is great reason for optimism folks!
 

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This is a fair point. Still, I think that you can acknowledge that Dak is still a developing QB, despite playing well. His perfect PR was helped by four off-target passes that were caught that could have easily been dropped or even picked. That being said, I really like Dak's new approach and his mechanics seem sounder than in the past. Definite improvement in getting ball out of his hand faster and getting the ball tol Drew his receivers coming out of their breaks. I'm really looking forward to seeing him develop even more as the season goes on. There is great reason for optimism folks!


I don't know of any QB throwing pin point passes every time, sometimes WR have to make tough catches that is fact. I think people want to justify their believe that Dak is not accurate and can only dink and dunk. I think he is a young QB learning and came into this game saying he felt better than he ever has and was ready for the season and people blow that off. Pre season did not play much but was perfect in the few passes he threw. Will ever pass be perfect? no , will he get picked yes how many QB have ever gone 16 games with 0 ints for the season? I do agree I look for him to continue to grow and develop but who is to say he is not better prepaired heading into this season? I saw no delay in his passes, he would come off play action and throw it with no hesitation and with good zip. He threw down the field, over the middle and down the seams. For his career he is 66% accuracy, not bad only problem I have seen that has lead to issue of so called accuracy is holding the ball to long and being indecisive which will lead to passes being late and behind the WR. I did not see much of that in week 1
 

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I don't know of any QB throwing pin point passes every time, sometimes WR have to make tough catches that is fact. I think people want to justify their believe that Dak is not accurate and can only dink and dunk. I think he is a young QB learning and came into this game saying he felt better than he ever has and was ready for the season and people blow that off. Pre season did not play much but was perfect in the few passes he threw. Will ever pass be perfect? no , will he get picked yes how many QB have ever gone 16 games with 0 ints for the season? I do agree I look for him to continue to grow and develop but who is to say he is not better prepaired heading into this season? I saw no delay in his passes, he would come off play action and throw it with no hesitation and with good zip. He threw down the field, over the middle and down the seams. For his career he is 66% accuracy, not bad only problem I have seen that has lead to issue of so called accuracy is holding the ball to long and being indecisive which will lead to passes being late and behind the WR. I did not see much of that in week 1

Agreed. That is why I'm overall happy with his performance. People are happy about the stats and the result. I'm more happy that it looks like he finally looks comfortable playing the position at an NFL level. If he continues to show this kind of improvement, he has a chance to be one of the best in the game (and more importantly, get us to the promised land). With Dak, it is all about consistency (or lack of it at times). If he continues to embrace this new approach, I think we will see a more consistent Dak.
 

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Ultimately there’s only one measuring stick in Big D. Playing our 1st game in Cowboys history in February.
 
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