Props to Jason Garrett

[Idgit]

It took one year for Moore to add some pace to this offense, attack the middle of the field, add some pre-snap motion, and be less predictable on run plays. Why didn't Garrett add these wrinkles to the offense in 10+ years?

How much better is the offense performing after two games from how it performed in 2016 again? How about 2014? Let's set aside the progress the QB has made this season and the fact that we have more weapons and probably should be performing better anyway.

And then also maybe explain for me what Garrett's supposed to do if you intend to nail his performance if it's better, and also nail him if it's worse, and also nail him if it stays the same because he never innovates? Where exactly do you want him to go where you'd be willing to give him credit. Because don't tell me there's no circumstance whatsoever in which you'd give him credit because I just won't believe that.

 

[Zordon]

How much better is the offense performing after two games from how it performed in 2016 again? How about 2014? Let's set aside the progress the QB has made this season and the fact that we have more weapons and probably should be performing better anyway.

And then also maybe explain for me what Garrett's supposed to do if you intend to nail his performance if it's better, and also nail him if it's worse, and also nail him if it stays the same because he never innovates? Where exactly do you want him to go where you'd be willing to give him credit. Because don't tell me there's no circumstance whatsoever in which you'd give him credit because I just won't believe that.

Kellen Moore is getting all of the credit for the offense. The defense is pretty much out of his hands. He's a walk-around coach so I'll judge him by his gameday decisions (4th down, time mgmt, etc.). If he wins in the playoffs, I'll give him credit for keeping the team focused and determined. The only scenario I give him an extension is if he takes the team to the NFCCG.

 

[plasticman]

The same month in 2011 that Jason Garrett became permanent Head Coach he described in detail how he was going to build the team and the events after that day match his statements.

From acquiring the “right kind” of player to establishing a drafting philosophy based on value to the creation of close knit squads through strong competition this team has been built according to that blueprint.

Building a long term winning team is very volatile chemistry and it doesn’t happen overnight but when it happens it is also the result of being in the proper environment. Jason Garrett built that environment. He created the culture that allowed this team to be created.

Winning teams aren’t all about talent. It’s about playing for the guys that line up with you. It’s about sacrifice, it’s about hard work and it’s about preparation. It’s about a willingness to be taught and Jason Garrett is the ultimate teacher. Some of you only see the hands clapping but it is Jason applauding a player that has used something he learned from the coaching.

Don’t you think Jason had something to do with Kellen Moore’s rise to OC? Of course he did, that is what Head Coaches do, they teach and cultivate their assistant coaches. Where do you think Kellen learned the nuances of coaching in professional football, in a college course?

The best thing that could happen for the Cowboys would be for them to win a Super Bowl, Jerry steps down, and Stephen promotes Jason Garrett to GM. Who do you suppose he would choose as his replacement for Head Coach?​

 

[Diehardblues]

He’s hasn’t gotten it done. But that doesn’t mean he won’t get it done or that I want him to fail. Too many fans want to be right about garret more than they want to win.

Yep..
It’s the same rhetoric we heard with Romo not winning a divisional round game.

Everyone deserves criticism but when you use certain rhetoric like this it’s typical type social media trolling.

 

[Diehardblues]

Do most head coaches in the NFL get 10 years to build their team?

I'm looking around the league right now for head coaches in their 9 season or longer that have not yet been to a SB and there are none.

So I am confused, why is it taking Garrett soo much longer than any other NFL head coach to build his team? I mean, correct me if I am wrong, but a quick glance at the record books tells me that every head coach in NFL history that won a SB did so before their 9th season.

So help me out here buddy, why is it taking Garrett longer than any other head coach in NFL history to build a championship caliber team?

No they don’t but most GM’s don’t get 25 years either.

Retaining Garrett is more complicated than issues on most franchises. I’ve covered all of this before. Why the need to regurgitate this time and time again.

 

[Diehardblues]

For somebody who repeatedly calls Garrett a puppet in thread after thread after thread, you sure do seem to come to his defense a lot.

Interesting

Because I believe he’s the greatest puppet we could hope for. His process is slow but effective. This is the best culture we’ve had this era. Garrett’s contributions go well beyond Game Day.

If you can’t appreciate where we’ve come as a franchise since he took over that’s on you. I’m not here to convince you.

 

[leeblair]

Let's not forget that Garrett has wasted 12 years. From the time he was named offensive coordinator and after blowing the 2010 season was named head coach, Garrett could have become a high school graduate, beginning with kindergarten.
And that's what his coaching has been like- a kindergartener.
His offense was a pass happy, undisciplined, turnover machine. He iced his own kicker, and wasted two of the most powerful offensive lines in football. He was given a youthful Tony Romo, and he proceeded to waste his entire career.
Props to Garrett?
I'd like to be the man that fired him.

 

[Doomsday101]

You realize that you can root for the team to win and think Garrett is incompetent at the same time...……..they are not mutually exclusive items.

I root for the team to win every Sunday, but I dont ignore Garrett's record either. A head coach in his 9th NFL season should have more on his resume than a pair of Wildcard wins.

I dont think that is an unreasonable position to take, do you?

If Garrett fails so does the team. This complete non sense of he does nothing is BS you guy spew out. His job is not just Sunday it is through out the week it is putting game plans together he is not standing their clapping like people love to claim. How you feel about Garrett is your choice but he is the HC of the Dallas Cowboys. As for his record he is 79 and 59 and 2-3 in post season, for argument sake lets say he can get this team to a SB and win it that 2-3 becomes 5-3 with a SB title and that is not bad at all. I have also stated if he fails and gets fired I will shed no tear but you damn right I pull for him, this organization and this team because it all goes hand in hand

 

[Doomsday101]

Doom--- i am a hard core hie hard fan too...but there were really only 3 coaches i really respected...Tom Landry until the game passed him by...Jimmy Johnson...and Parcells...the latter two because they would not sugar coat stuff...

It is not a matter of who you respect or any who any fan respects. We don't play on the team. The players respect matters, the front office respect matter and coordinators and assistant coaches respect matter. Fans do not have to like a coach, a player or an owner but in the end regardless if you like them or not plays no part in any of this. We choose to pull for this team, we have no say in any of it. Yes we can all have opinions. Myself I'm not pulling against this team and when I say team I mean organization, coaches and players because when any part of that fails it all fails

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Im waiting for the answer.

 

[Diehardblues]

Coaching criticism has always been over played. Shoot, we bashed Landry all thru his career. Couldn’t win the big one, lost too many championships , wouldn’t let Roger call his own plays, etc. And threw him under the bus after 3 consecutive losing seasons to end his legendary career.

And we bashed Jimmy early, for having too big of ego with Jerry and after he went to Miami . How about Parcells after he resurrected us from the 5-11 Funk. He was bashed for not winning a playoff game.

Coaching criticism is common place. It’s always about the here and now but IMO the true measurement is; are we in a better place than when they took over?

 

[Diehardblues]

It is not a matter of who you respect or any who any fan respects. We don't play on the team. The players respect matters, the front office respect matter and coordinators and assistant coaches respect matter. Fans do not have to like a coach, a player or an owner but in the end regardless if you like them or not plays no part in any of this. We choose to pull for this team, we have no say in any of it. Yes we can all have opinions. Myself I'm not pulling against this team and when I say team I mean organization, coaches and players because when any part of that fails it all fails

Right. We had fans who didn’t like Landry, Jimmy and Bill. Our 3 greatest HC in Cowboy history.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What year was that?

#3 in 2007
#2 in 2009
#7 in 2010
#11 in 2011
#6 in 2012
#7 in 2014


the information is readily available out there...its not that hard to do some FACT checking instead of opinions...and perceptions.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Right. We had fans who didn’t like Landry, Jimmy and Bill. Our 3 greatest HC in Cowboy history.

Wasn't me. I stayed loyal to Landry until the end when most had deserted him. When Jimmy replaced Landry my anger was more toward Jerry and I never wanted Parcells to leave. The 2 coaches I criticized the most were Wade and Garrett and that's because I saw them waste so many of our great players careers.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What Dak fans? LOL

So you are a big fan of Garrett, but you dont like Dak? This is hilarious.

I am not a fan of garrett. I am not a hater. I am not a hater of Dak. nice try.

I base it on Facts, not emotions, perceptions, much like yourself

 

[Doomsday101]

Right. We had fans who didn’t like Landry, Jimmy and Bill. Our 3 greatest HC in Cowboy history.

I like them all and pulled for them all that it includes Chan Gailey, Switzer and Wade. That does not mean I agree with everything they did but what it does me is at the end of the day I'm still pulling for them to get my team to the championship. I sure as hell do not pull against them or hope they fail

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Whats funny is that when we win, there are threads demanding Garrett gets props...…...but when Garrett's record is mentioned its nothing but excuse after excuse after excuse.

I bet I have heard a thousand times on this board....."we didnt lose in the playoffs, or failed to make the playoffs, because of coaching".

not sure who says that. but losing in the playoffs is one of the biggest topics most talk about around here...

what's funny is when we win its Dak, Romo and even Linehan...but when we lose, there is a long list of why it's not anybody but Garrett's fault. outside of 16-0 seasons, nothing will satisfy the garrett haters.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Garrett's short coming is that he cant win jack in the playoffs, unlike Carroll and Pederson who both have rings in less time on the job than Garrett.

Nobody is expecting him to be Bilicheck, what we are expecting is a little bit more than 2 wildcard wins after a decade on the job.

I won't argue that. I have said it that we have to make NFCCG this year and be competitive for him to stay on.

I think now the Jury is out on Pederson...seems like a lot of his success was based on Reich who is now in Indy and seemingly Indy thriving with his arrival......

and again, I dont' disagree with having to get more playoff wins....but I don't think he is trash, garbage, not even good enough for peewee, BS that garrett haters tend to put out there.....

 

[IceStar-D7]

That's right folks - Jason has this team rolling on all cylinders coming out of the gate. Say what you want about him but players seem to really enjoy playing for him, he's involved in personnel decisions and has helped build this team, he seems to really have the respect of all of the players on the team, and they stay out of trouble for the most part. Also, I'm sure he had a big say-so in the Kellen Moore, Kris Richardson, and John Kitna hires.

It's time we give him a little credit!

Get back to me after Sunday and the next few games. I like Garrett as a person but as a HC? Not so sure. At some point this season. Dallas is gonna need Garrett. I just hope he'll be ready. I like what Moore and his staff are doing. I'm not to happy with Rod and Richard right now. As far as Garrett goes in all seriousness. I really don't know what he does. If he quit tonight. Would Dallas be any better or worse off?.

 

[TWOK11]

This thread is just further evidence for my belief that many here value being “right” over anything else.

No matter what he does Garrett will always suck to them because if he doesn’t, then they were wrong and we can’t have that.