If we can't run the ball on Sunday

[jazzcat22]

It's worst then that really, they have FOUR 1st rnd picks on that line... but that's no excuse to keep running into a wall. We all know sitting here that was vanilla queens BS that hurt us in a lot of games. It's head scratching to say the least as to WHY Moore IF he is so smart didn't realize wth they were doing to us on the defensive side of the ball, and send in plays to counter the look they gave. But I watched it, and saw little to no motion or even put Pollard in single back or with Zeke to try and confuse them.... all we can do is put it behind us, and hope to hell this 1st year genus learned something from this game. You have to give your players a chance, and I saw none of that on Sunday night. Just piss poor IMO

I kept saying, why not bounce it outside. With Zeke or Pollard. It was like Moore wanted to be stubborn to break that wall. No success, try it again. Like it meant more to break the wall than to succeed by going around it.
Yes, hope he learned something from it. Or someone needs to point that out. The announcers were saying how many ex-QB's on the team to help Dad out, but yet not a one of them said, HEY, Kellen, try a different approach.

 

[blueblood70]

If we cant we lose.

we dont have the type of players or offense to ,lean heavily on passing game alone..

I have no doubt the run game gets back on track..we are great running team sans afew games year..

 

[Diehardblues]

then there is a big problem here.

If anyone watched that Eagles-Packers game, it was eye opening at how large the holes were Philly was opening up against the Packers front. Aikman was almost laughing at times at how big the holes were.

The one thing that the Packers can do is rush the passer. So with Smith out, this is a game where we need, and should be able, to run the ball very well.

The key was that the Eagles had a threat downfield. Wentz was effective over the top which opened up their running game.

If Packers stuff Elliot then we must open it up downfield with our passing attack.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's worst then that really, they have FOUR 1st rnd picks on that line... but that's no excuse to keep running into a wall. We all know sitting here that was vanilla queens BS that hurt us in a lot of games. It's head scratching to say the least as to WHY Moore IF he is so smart didn't realize wth they were doing to us on the defensive side of the ball, and send in plays to counter the look they gave. But I watched it, and saw little to no motion or even put Pollard in single back or with Zeke to try and confuse them.... all we can do is put it behind us, and hope to hell this 1st year genus learned something from this game. You have to give your players a chance, and I saw none of that on Sunday night. Just piss poor IMO

If this was on Moore, which I am very skeptical of, but if that is the case, you would think that an experienced HC of 9+ seasons, a former NFL OC, would have enough experience to step in and take control in that situation. You would hope to see Garrett chime in and say, "hey, this isn't working, lets try running XYZ." I mean, that's only reasonable. Any way I look at this, this still falls on Garrett's shoulders IMO.

 

[Big D]

then there is a big problem here.

If anyone watched that Eagles-Packers game, it was eye opening at how large the holes were Philly was opening up against the Packers front. Aikman was almost laughing at times at how big the holes were.

The one thing that the Packers can do is rush the passer. So with Smith out, this is a game where we need, and should be able, to run the ball very well.

Which means we should expect empty backfields 80% of the snaps.

 

[OmerV]

Scheme alone? The Saints have a very good front and two pretty good DTs. Brown and Rankins just killed our interior OL.

This is true. The Saints were the second best team in the NFL against the run last year. The only reason they aren't higher this year is because of one bad game against the run in Week 1, and one week naturally skews things in the context of the first 4 games.

 

[shabazz]

We'll be fine. I'd be shocked if we don't get back on track and score 30+

I think you better prepare yourself then. The Packers are well coached and know how to attack our Achilles Heel. Stuff the Run and Dare Dakota to beat you through the air. The inferior trash defenses we have played previous to the Saints haven't had the personnel to do so. I hope I'm wrong but you know how this goes

 

[Parcells4Life]

The Saints run D won on scheme, not talent. No reason to think the Packers can't/won't mimic that.

They stopped the run with just 6. Malcolm Brown dominated. That’s talent more than scheme

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Literally all four of New Orleans's starting DL are first round picks/talent.

Jordan, Rankins, Davenport, Brown.

This is what some fans are overlooking.......they were good enough to pretty much limit or shut down our running game AND had one the best DBs that took out our best WR. Now add that up and tell me what options we were left with to make plays. Cobb, Witten, and Smith( non-factor)?........hard to see a mismatch.

 

[DogFace]

I would only hope that we will make timely adjustments, if our running game isn't producing as expected vs. Green Bay. Persisting in calling Ezekiel's number to excess, like we did vs. N.O., was a foolish blunder. Let's hope wiser thinking prevails at AT&T Stadium, Sunday at 4:25 p.m. Beating good teams is hard enough, without making it easy for them.

Did we run read option or pistol formation at all?

More than twice?

 

[wick]

It has nothing to do with running the ball. The big question is whether we go back to the data-driven approach to offense that we saw in the first three games (pass on first downs, lots of play-action) or continue with the idiotic "pound the rock" philosophy that torpedoed the Saints game.

 

[Future]

Scheme alone? The Saints have a very good front and two pretty good DTs. Brown and Rankins just killed our interior OL.

I guess not alone, but scheme was the bigger problem, I think.


Stuff like that isn't talent-dependent. The first was a perfect run blitz, the second, every gap is filled, with an extra defender in the cutback lanes. Even if you execute blocks, there's nowhere to go.

 

[Future]

Literally all four of New Orleans's starting DL are first round picks/talent.

Jordan, Rankins, Davenport, Brown.

So? The Cowboys have 4 first-round OL. Scheme was the biggest difference, even if their DL was better.

 

[Sydla]

I guess not alone, but scheme was the bigger problem, I think.


Stuff like that isn't talent-dependent. The first was a perfect run blitz, the second, every gap is filled, with an extra defender in the cutback lanes. Even if you execute blocks, there's nowhere to go.

And then there were plays where Brown simply just beat his guy.

The Packers don't have the interior DL talent the Saints do.

 

[cowboyblue22]

i think if the cowboys don't go back to the offense that they used the first three games of the season this will be another loss coaching is huge in the nfl and we have gomer pyle while other teams at least have competent head coach if they lose this one its going to go south pretty quickly and I think they lose until they prove that they can beat better teams then they are what they are pretty much just above the bottom feeders

 

[JoeKing]

Get ready for another "L". The OL is over rated and Zeke is overpaid. Who could have possibly seen this coming?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Look at both of those plays. Nevermind the breakdowns in blocking assignments, just watch Dak. Look at how the Defense is positioned to stop the naked boot. In the first series, 6 defenders in the box. Nobody checks Dak, he is free and if he keeps, he's making very good yards, either passing to an open receiver or keeping. On the second play, 7 in the box and the DE responsible for sealing the right side, crashes down. He actually realizes that he's over committed and tries to check up but he's so far out of position that if Dak keeps there, he's by him and has the SL easily. That was there all night and we never once took advantage of it. Just saying.......

 

[CouchCoach]

The Cowboys must run the ball, it is their identity and Rodgers is the type QB they want on the sideline because if he gets on one of those streaks of his, it's shootout time. They know GB will come with some form of what NO did on D so they have time to prepare for that because if two teams can do that in a row, going to be a very long season.

Every good team knows that the Cowboys have to run between the tackles to set their offense. The problem is Martin's back, Yosemite is not all the way back and Williams has not taken that sophomore step and the Cowboys have to know the back up LT is going to get pushed and tested a lot. What was the strength of this team is now questionable.

 

[Praxit]

..I dont know what to say. Dallas put us back on the conundrum status.

 

[Plankton]

I guess not alone, but scheme was the bigger problem, I think.


Stuff like that isn't talent-dependent. The first was a perfect run blitz, the second, every gap is filled, with an extra defender in the cutback lanes. Even if you execute blocks, there's nowhere to go.

The first play was helped significantly by Rankins getting away with a hold on Frederick as he was trying to execute a combo block.