Dak, proves he's average. Needs to be paid so **merged**

[HungryLion]

Thats a lie. He’s played top 20 his entire career and more closer to the 20 than not.

It wasn’t a lie. It was an opinion.

An opinion based off stats like QB rating and QBR. According to QB rating and QBR he is top 10 since he came into the league.

If you want to give your opinion that he was closer to 20, that’s fine. But your opinion doesn’t make what I said a lie.

 

[shabazz]

I gave credit to Dak for his play in the first three games numerous times, so I am fair about it. I didn’t put you in the Dak lovers category. If you look at it , I never accused you, but I listed the Dak lovers characteristics.

And I’m on record as saying that when it comes to commercials Dakota is only second to Shaq in that category. mad, mad respect on his acting chops

 

[Philmonroe]

It wasn’t a lie. It was an opinion.

An opinion based off stats like QB rating and QBR. According to QB rating and QBR he is top 10 since he came into the league.

If you want to give your opinion that he was closer to 20, that’s fine. But your opinion doesn’t make what I said a lie.

Its a lie phrased as an opinion to keep away from being called a lie. I didn’t give an opinion I gave facts based on metrics that football people that do more research than both of us have mentioned. Even the owners know he average that’s why they up here nickel and diming him to take a different deal. They wouldn’t be pulling this stunt if he truly was a top 5/10 qb.

 

[JGRXXN]

Isn't that part of the problem this team has? If other teams can stop our run we have no answer for them. It's been an issue for 3+ years now. Who would you think should pick up the slack for us when that happens? For the record i don't put this loss solely on Dak but he didn't do anything to help us either

There's people who hate on Dak and it has nothing to do with Football... those are the guys who I go after the most...to your point Dak was 6-7 when we ran PA and when we passed on first down we avg 7.3 per play but we kept running Zeke into a brick wall the whole night... Also they was pressuring us and we didn't see not one screen pass the whole night... I put this on the offensive game plan and the two fumbles that we had is why we lost... it has JG written all over it

 

[HungryLion]

Its a lie phrased as an opinion to keep away from being called a lie. I didn’t give an opinion I gave facts based on metrics that football people that do more research than both of us have mentioned. Even the owners know he average that’s why they up here nickel and diming him to take a different deal. They wouldn’t be pulling this stunt if he truly was a top 5/10 qb.

You’ve provided no facts or any metrics. So Again, just your opinion.

Just like you speaking for the owners as if you know their actual thoughts. That’s not even an opinion, that’s assumption.

So you provided no facts or metrics just opinion and assumptions. You claim those opinions and assumptions are facts.

But you accuse me of lying.

 

[HungryLion]

Its a lie phrased as an opinion to keep away from being called a lie. I didn’t give an opinion I gave facts based on metrics that football people that do more research than both of us have mentioned. Even the owners know he average that’s why they up here nickel and diming him to take a different deal. They wouldn’t be pulling this stunt if he truly was a top 5/10 qb.

It would be simpler to just say, hey I disagree with you. I think Dak is closer to being #20. And then we can both just move on. Not falsely accuse somebody else of lying because you disagree with my opinion that he has been top 10.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

There's people who hate on Dak and it has nothing to do with Football... those are the guys who I go after the most...to your point Dak was 6-7 when we ran PA and when we passed on first down we avg 7.3 per play but we kept running Zeke into a brick wall the whole night... Also they was pressuring us and we didn't see not one screen pass the whole night... I put this on the offensive game plan and the two fumbles that we had is why we lost... it has JG written all over it

My point goes more to the fact that even though i won't put this loss soley on Dak's shoulders he really didn't do anything to help us win it. To me that screams "Average QB", now you can win a championship in the NFL with an average QB provided everything else is working, but if it's not you won't win it. I don't hate Dak i just don't think he can carry the team to a championship, just my opinion and if i have to talk about any one player who carries our team it would have to be Zeke because as he goes the offense goes and i really don't think that a debatable point after 3+ years of watching them both

 

[shabazz]

It would be simpler to just say, hey I disagree with you. I think Dak is closer to being #20. And then we can both just move on. Not falsely accuse somebody else of lying because you disagree with my opinion that he has been top 10.

I may surprise some here but I put him at at least 15. I also believe that he is at his absolute ceiling in his 4th season. I think he has worked very hard to maximize his potential. I would love to see him as top 10 but not sure it’s gonna happen

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

I may surprise some here but I put him at at least 15. I also believe that he is at his absolute ceiling in his 4th season. I think he has worked very hard to maximize his potential. I would love to see him as top 10 but not sure it’s gonna happen

This i agree with completly, the top of his talent is 15 and he will play between 15 and 20 his entire career save for a career season

 

[Philmonroe]

You’ve provided no facts or any metrics. So Again, just your opinion.

Just like you speaking for the owners as if you know their actual thoughts. That’s not even an opinion, that’s assumption.

So you provided no facts or metrics just opinion and assumptions. You claim those opinions and assumptions are facts.

But you accuse me of lying.

I don’t have to provide facts to something that’s easily googled. If you’re too lazy to do so so like I am to put the links so be it. That logic doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist but whatever you need to feel better have at it.

Show me where I’m speaking for the owners? Is he signed? Yeah I accuse you of lying because you are. If you don’t agree it’s understandable I wouldn’t think you would agree with me.

 

[Philmonroe]

It would be simpler to just say, hey I disagree with you. I think Dak is closer to being #20. And then we can both just move on. Not falsely accuse somebody else of lying because you disagree with my opinion that he has been top 10.

You already know I disagree with you because you’re a Stan. No need to mention the obvious but on that top 10 “opinion” was such junk I had to call you a liar on that one. If you’re too emotional because I said liar get over it I’m sure you’ve been called worse.

 

[HungryLion]

You already know I disagree with you because you’re a Stan. No need to mention the obvious but on that top 10 “opinion” was such junk I had to call you a liar on that one. If you’re too emotional because I said liar get over it I’m sure you’ve been called worse.

I’m not too emotional. I’m actually pretty use to you being hard headed and obtuse. So quite frankly I was expecting this. I was also expecting your lame brain accusation of somebody being “too emotional” which is something you constantly do, despite it making zero sense for the situation whatsoever.

My opinion is, that you are just looking for an argument. Also, another opinion of mine is that any arguments you do make, are usually so poorly written and deprived of actual substance, that they make you look like a moron. This goes to the point that it’s useless to engage with you. Because you’ll just twist things and continue to spout your “too emotional” lame behind line that you always pull. Even though it makes zero sense and makes you seem like a spiteful fool.

So at this point I’m just going to pass on discussing anything with you anymore, at all, because talking to you is like talking to a rock, the only difference is some rocks can actually be used for a useful purpose, whereas any attempt at relevant discussion with you, is inevitably fruitless.

Your opinion and anything you have to say is completely meaningless. I can get better feedback from a child, than from you. You will be getting no more responses from me ever on any topic.

I’m sure your response to this post will be another useless diatribe about how other people are “too emotional” or some other such poorly written nonsense that you’ve been posting all along. Which is also hilarious because you’ll be up and down others threads whining and crying like a little kid about how unfair “Dak lovers” treat everybody and basically just pissing and moaning about others behavior. But then when anybody points out your behavior to you, you’ll just say “don’t be so emotional” despite the fact that the board is littered with posts of you crying like a B about other people’s behavior.

It’s tired and old man.

 

[Philmonroe]

I’m not too emotional. I’m actually pretty use to you being hard headed and obtuse. So quite frankly I was expecting this. I was also expecting your lame brain accusation of somebody being “too emotional” which is something you constantly do, despite it making zero sense for the situation whatsoever.

My opinion is, that you are just looking for an argument. Also, another opinion of mine is that any arguments you do make, are usually so poorly written and deprived of actual substance, that they make you look like a moron. This goes to the point that it’s useless to engage with you. Because you’ll just twist things and continue to spout your “too emotional” lame behind line that you always pull. Even though it makes zero sense and makes you seem like a spiteful fool.

So at this point I’m just going to pass on discussing anything with you anymore, at all, because talking to you is like talking to a rock, the only difference is some rocks can actually be used for a useful purpose, whereas any attempt at relevant discussion with you, is inevitably fruitless.

Your opinion and anything you have to say is completely meaningless. I can get better feedback from a child, than from you. You will be getting no more responses from me ever on any topic.

I’m sure your response to this post will be another useless diatribe about how other people are “too emotional” or some other such poorly written nonsense that you’ve been posting all along. Which is also hilarious because you’ll be up and down others threads whining and crying like a little kid about how unfair “Dak lovers” treat everybody and basically just pissing and moaning about others behavior. But then when anybody points out your behavior to you, you’ll just say “don’t be so emotional” despite the fact that the board is littered with posts of you crying like a B about other people’s behavior.

It’s tired and old man.

Blah Blah Blah. I said if you’re too emotional which means if you are that you necessarily are. You’d understand that if you was paying attention to what I actually posted instead of looking to be a victim. I’m also not hard headed or obtuse but your og point isn’t stated as an opinion hence the reason for me saying you’re lying. When I called it out it then became an opinion. Stop it sir.

You’re opinion is wrong like it is most times. You posted non sense and I responded like you know what happens on messageboards. If you need a safe space let me know and I won’t post anything towards you unless I agree with you. As far as the arguments being poorly written and make me look like a moron I’m ok with that. Everybody isn’t going to like you and it’s the norm for people you disagree with to say such.

As far as not discussing anything with me anymore if that makes you feel better. We will both be just fine. The funny thing is you can’t post any proof of this crying about others behavior. I said both sides do the exact same thing so show me the lie in this comment. Oh I forgot you’re not responding to me anymore so peace and Go Boys

 

[JBond]

Shut up... If you are blaming this game on Dak then you don't know football. WRs dropped passes and everything else.

Dak also missed an easy TD. Garbage performance by all except our brand new DE.

 

[Philmonroe]

Dak also missed an easy TD. Garbage performance by all except our brand new DE.

I think the D overall did good because holding a team to 12 isn’t bad at all.

 

[JGRXXN]

My point goes more to the fact that even though i won't put this loss soley on Dak's shoulders he really didn't do anything to help us win it. To me that screams "Average QB", now you can win a championship in the NFL with an average QB provided everything else is working, but if it's not you won't win it. I don't hate Dak i just don't think he can carry the team to a championship, just my opinion and if i have to talk about any one player who carries our team it would have to be Zeke because as he goes the offense goes and i really don't think that a debatable point after 3+ years of watching them both

Your opinion is Football based and not on race so I can accept that... this same HC who was around during the Romo years, guess what same results... its the HC im telling you

 

[PAPPYDOG]

And I’m on record as saying that when it comes to commercials Dakota is only second to Shaq in that category. mad, mad respect on his acting chops

Hey is taking FULL advantage of his 15 min of fame to the tilt.....trust me even he knows this is a dream job for him and dreams well are just that ....Dreams and some point you wake up in reality......

P.S. Hope this Dream doesn't turn into a nightmare cause its year 4 and I don't see a FRANCHISE quality QB out there. Hence no contract to date.....

 

[Polkton31]

There have been numerous QBs that raises and improves the level of play of their teammates. Dak is not one of those type of QBs. Dak depends on his teammates more than they depend on him.

Ok, just so I can make sure we are on the same page... When the Cowboys win a game, it is either because they played a weak team, or the players around Dak carried him? But... When the Cowboys lose a game, it's Dak's fault because he is below average? Forget about fumbles, missed blocking assignments, penalties, dropped passes, etc. See, the problem I have with some of the Dak haters, is they always have an excuse as to why Dak shouldn't get any credit for the win, but they always give Dak "FULL" credit for the loss. The other problem I have with some of the Dak haters, is when Dak is playing good, there is no sign of them or their Dak hating memes. In fact, some of them change their memes altogether. But... let Dak have a bad game, and they flood the board en masse. It seems a little cowardly to me. Of course, that might be the 22 year Army Ranger in me talking. I believe if you say something, be man enough to stand up and own it. Good or bad, Right or wrong... Own it. Don't say it, then hide until you can say,"See, I was right" or "See, I told you so". Dak might not be an elite QB, but he damn sure isn't the only reason the Cowboys lost to the Saints. Anyone laying the blame solely on Dak for that loss, knows absolutely nothing about football.

 

[Frozen700]

Hey is taking FULL advantage of his 15 min of fame to the tilt.....trust me even he knows this is a dream job for him and dreams well are just that ....Dreams and some point you wake up in reality......

P.S. Hope this Dream doesn't turn into a nightmare cause its year 4 and I don't see a FRANCHISE quality QB out there. Hence no contract to date.....

I agree 100

 

[CF74]

18 pg’s what’s the consensus here?

Knee Jerk
Garrett sabotaged us
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