Cowherd: Garrett is to blame for Saints loss

CATCH17

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Hilarious to think the teams' performance was on JG. Well, i guess all 3 of those blow out wins were because of him.

It’s only hilarious to those who don’t know much about football and can’t tell the difference in a dynamic offense and a Linehan offense.

To guys like that it all looks the same and it’s laughable to blame coaches.

Witten and Elliot cost us the game. I do not deny that. But our conservative gameplan limited our offensive potential because we played into their defensive strength.

We just ran our way to a loss against a team that didn’t score a TD.

Who ever decided the offense needed to go into a shell last week needs to shut their mouth in offensive meetings going forward. I have a good guess who it was too.
 

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Sean Payton developed a gameplan that masterfully masked their coverages on defense and an offensive gameplan that emphasized his quarterback's strengths. Our coach went into a conservative shell I'm guessing b/c he was intimidated by the environment and he figured it wouldn't take much on offense to defeat a backup QB.

We're always going to be behind the eight ball when the matchup is Garrett vs elite coaches. This is why I have zero confidence in this team ever making a deep run in the playoffs with him at the helm.

In spite of Garrett's deficiencies, someone on this team needs to step up and lead on the field. The real Cowboy teams of years past, would be doing a man to man gut check with each other. To me it is not just about stats, but your commitment to winning.
 

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In spite of Garrett's deficiencies, someone on this team needs to step up and lead on the field. The real Cowboy teams of years past, would be doing a man to man gut check with each other. To me it is not just about stats, but your commitment to winning.
You know what, I used to be like you. I used to bash the players like crazy for their lack of commitment. Then we got Frederick, Martin, Jaylon, LVE, Gallup, DLaw, Quinn...the roster is full of RKGs. The roster is not the problem outside of maybe DT. It's the coaches providing zero advantage on gamedays. How can a head coach barely speak during a 3 hour game? Belicheck after 6 super bowls is still on the white board every game coaching up his defense. He's engaged, not just a cheerleader.
 

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You know what, I used to be like you. I used to bash the players like crazy for their lack of commitment. Then we got Frederick, Martin, Jaylon, LVE, Gallup, DLaw, Quinn...the roster is full of RKGs. The roster is not the problem outside of maybe DT. It's the coaches providing zero advantage on gamedays. How can a head coach barely speak during a 3 hour game? Belicheck after 6 super bowls is still on the white board every game coaching up his defense. He's engaged, not just a cheerleader.

While I like your post, I am not bashing the players; I am wondering if they care enough to override bad playcalling. In spite of the Browns bad coaching last year, they found a way to galvanize themselves.
 

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The execution was bad but the gameplan was worse.

With that gameplan we had to play perfect. If we attacked the Saints Defense through the air we might have made more mistakes but scored more points in the process.

I'd rather play to win then not to lose against a team we should've beat.

That is basically JG's defining attribute. He plays not to lose instead of to win.

We saw the same thing when Romo was here outside of a few games here and there when they knew they had to be aggressive. Peyton vs Romo is one game that comes to mind.

Other than those rare occasions it is the same conservative offense and defense. This team has too much talent to be handicapped like that. They need a coach that will unleash them to go out there and make plays.
 
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You know what, I used to be like you. I used to bash the players like crazy for their lack of commitment. Then we got Frederick, Martin, Jaylon, LVE, Gallup, DLaw, Quinn...the roster is full of RKGs. The roster is not the problem outside of maybe DT. It's the coaches providing zero advantage on gamedays. How can a head coach barely speak during a 3 hour game? Belicheck after 6 super bowls is still on the white board every game coaching up his defense. He's engaged, not just a cheerleader.
Garrett isn't doing much on the sidelines because most responsibilities have been taken away from him. With good reason.

His only job is to manage the clock and throw challenge flags. That's the way it should be.

The Patriots have defensive coordinators in name only. They help out preparing the defense during the week. But Belichek runs the defense on the sidelines during the game.
 

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Garrett is not a "great" coach- agreed. He's not a bad coach either. He is an average to above average coach. Objective, independent rankings have him ranked about 10-18 in the league, depending on which ranking. Sounds about right. Most rankings don't have Dak in the top ten either FWIW.

Mistakes lost the Saints game, not coaching.

Coaches look really smart with great players. The roster has greatly improved recently, and so has our record. BTW, quadruple our 3-1 record, and the boys finish at 12-4. I'll blame Garrett for not winning the Superbowl, when I think the team has a championship level roster. This might be the first year in Garrett's tenure where that is the case, so let's see.

Anyone think Belichick wins all those championships without Brady? I don't.
 

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I don't like Garrett,but he isn't the reason we lost. We lost due to being outplayed. Two crucial fumbles caused the loss. NOT GARRETT.
 

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Leave my head coach alone!!!!! That's my HC, sniff sniff......

Yessir. I think we're seeing the first sign of what Jerry is inclined to do about his claims of putting JG on trial. Looks like perhaps he's using Moore as the scapegoat for his HC's flawed game plan. Jerry has a history of playing favorites with those he considers a part of his clique. Apparently, he's intent upon using Moore as a scapegoat for JG's miscues. Funny how most of us are able to recognize the truth well before he does. Gotta wonder how long it might take for him to remove the blinders. Maybe someone should send him a copy of this opening video. Even Cowherd can see through Jerry's BS. ;)
 
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I guess the best, most honest, thing I could say is this. The TO's are the reason we lost the game IMO. There is no doubt in my mind. However, the Offensive game plan is the reason we didn't win it. There is also no doubt in my mind about that.
 

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6 min mark. Anybody disagree with what he's saying?


….hmmm…...outside of Dak/Zeke rookie years.....hard to find a signature win that came up as a masterful coaching job.
 

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6 min mark. Anybody disagree with what he's saying?


It was their defensive line plowing through our offensive line that caused most of the damage, not JG's coaching. Another part of it was the crowd noise making it extremely difficult for the offense to communicate adequately. Tell me specifically what JG did wrong.
 

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This pretty much sums up my thoughts on the game

 

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I realize it's easy to point fingers at the coaches here, but this game was going to be tough no matter what and these players need to not cough up the football on critical drives and Randall Cobb needs to catch a touchdown pass that hits him directly in the hands, regardless of how poorly it may be thrown.

The entire outcome of this game would have been different if none of the above occurred.
But doesn't that suggest coaching to you? To me it does. To me it suggests that this team is unprepared for tough games. Sure easy games they roll. But in tough games against good defenses, our offense struggles mightily. Same ol same ol
 

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In spite of Garrett's deficiencies, someone on this team needs to step up and lead on the field. The real Cowboy teams of years past, would be doing a man to man gut check with each other. To me it is not just about stats, but your commitment to winning.
Agreed and again this reflects back on COACHING. Can anyone point to the Tom Landry Era where he didn't have his squad prepared and bent on winning? Or how about Jimmy Johnson? I realize players win games but coaches (and owners...Jerry) create the atmosphere of perfection or meh. Jason Garrett is a meh guy. Results are all that matter, how you got there totally irrelevant to him. I prefer those who pay attention to details as that is how you guarantee success. Bill Bilichick.

Just saying we have to get better is Captain Obvious speak. A great coach will understand how to get each player to get better and motivate and educate them to do so.
 
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