Would Romo have us at 5-0?

[Sydla]

If Romo could play the one tech?

Maybe.

 

[keysersoze]

If Romo could play the one tech?

Maybe.

 

[Captain-Crash]

*Romo hurt my feelings*

 

[Aviano90]

If the QB gets the ball there, he's done all he can do. it's up to the WR to win the battle with the DB.

For some reason, if you compliment Tony, some people assume you hate Dak. It's very odd.

Here's how I judge Dak.
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/what-more-can-dak-do-to-win-some-over.442681/page-4#post-9550048

Well, I am glad he has won you over. I engage you on Tony Romo because I respect your opinion, going back to the old boards. Don’t get me wrong, Romo isn’t the main reason we lost that game. There are a ton of factors, including the defense. I just strongly disagree that Crayton needs to be blamed as the sole reason we lost. He is one of the reasons, maybe even having more blame than all the others, but there was a number of mistakes that could have been avoided, even going back to the first drive when TO dropped a pass.

It’s just if we use the same critical eye that Dak has been judged by these past 3 years, we can trash Romo for that game. He didn’t play a perfect game, and he doesn’t deserve to be trashed for it. He actually played pretty well for the most part despite the numbers. We played ball control, “dinking and dunking” even mentioned during the broadcast. This is another thing Dak has been killed for.

My main thing is consistency. If people want to be lenient or hard on a QB, just have the same approach for both QBs.

Anyway, enjoyed the conversation.

 

[cowfan]

Yes, Tony Romo never threw interceptions in critical situations.

 

[keysersoze]

Yes, Tony Romo never threw interceptions in critical situations.

Isn’t that AMAZING????

 

[starfan1]

With this defense ? Ya right

 

[408Cowboy]

*Romo hurt my feelings*

So you've said

 

[Tarheelcowboy]

I'm the biggest Romo fan on this board.... this thread is irrelevant... he is retired move on. Stop comparing Dak to him. They play the game totally different.

End of story !

 

[buybuydandavis]

Well, I am glad he has won you over. I engage you on Tony Romo because I respect your opinion, going back to the old boards. Don’t get me wrong, Romo isn’t the main reason we lost that game. There are a ton of factors, including the defense. I just strongly disagree that Crayton needs to be blamed as the sole reason we lost. He is one of the reasons, maybe even having more blame than all the others, but there was a number of mistakes that could have been avoided, even going back to the first drive when TO dropped a pass.

It’s just if we use the same critical eye that Dak has been judged by these past 3 years, we can trash Romo for that game. He didn’t play a perfect game, and he doesn’t deserve to be trashed for it. He actually played pretty well for the most part despite the numbers. We played ball control, “dinking and dunking” even mentioned during the broadcast. This is another thing Dak has been killed for.

My main thing is consistency. If people want to be lenient or hard on a QB, just have the same approach for both QBs.

Anyway, enjoyed the conversation.

Crayton's failings in that game were sufficient to lose the game. On one play. The balk was a brutal play in Cowboy history. That's how close the game was to Tony the Hero instead of Tony the Goat. 2007 was that close to moving to the NFC Championship with homefield advantage and a healthier TO.

This is not a general indictment of Crayton. I generally liked him, and thought people dumped on him too much. Most people get on the drop. I'm like, stuff happens. Players aren't perfect.

But I've generally been a supporter of Crayton. It was weird how desperate we were to dump him at punt returner. He would have been a great 3rd. He was an insufficient 2nd who we eventually paid too much for. He's much like Terrance, only good, in that his numbers were largely dependent on other players being more of a threat and pushing him down the threat list. He started at WR in 2007 in his third year in the league as a converted QB.

TO wasn't TO in the second half of the game because of the high ankle sprain. Glenn never played another down in the league. Crayton had big fails. Sam Hurd was on the field. The criticism of Crayton is part of a general point on how little Tony had to work with at WR in that game in the second half. And yet, a Crayton away from winning.

The guy I *blame* for this is Jerry. For years he went light on true WRs with gimmick players, special teams players, and developmental players. When Glenn got injured, Jerry did nothing to replace him, leaving us totally exposed if TO got injured. This, in a league where you can get a older veteran WR for a stick of gum. Well, TO did get injured, just in time for the playoffs. Glenn had nothing left.

2011 was similarly lost to lack of WR depth in a season ending game against the Commanders. Hammies Austin and Dez can't finish the game, and Tony is left with trying to win with Ogletree, Harris, and Beasley at WR. Again, only two true wideouts on the team that season.

I'll analyze Dak's limitations. I'll analyze Tony's. With Tony, it was ball protection when young, particularly with fumbles. Tony also tended to take some unnecessary risks. A game management issue. But in his later years, he just got good. He overcame those limitations, but broke down just after he had. Sad.

You ask for consistency. But the contexts of criticism for Tony and Dak aren't the same. With Dak, criticism has been, til this year, a general criticism about flaws in his game and how much he is then worth, and not "he's a big loser who can't win the big one", putting all the blame on Dak for team failures, as Romo gets all the time for the lack of championships and losses in the playoffs.

When some did blame Dak for the 2016 playoff loss to GB, I argued against that too. He had a good game. Not perfect. But good. He was not the problem. It would be silly to blame him for the 2018 loss too.

 

[Aviano90]

Crayton's failings in that game were sufficient to lose the game. On one play. The balk was a brutal play in Cowboy history. That's how close the game was to Tony the Hero instead of Tony the Goat. 2007 was that close to moving to the NFC Championship with homefield advantage and a healthier TO.

This is not a general indictment of Crayton. I generally liked him, and thought people dumped on him too much. Most people get on the drop. I'm like, stuff happens. Players aren't perfect.

But I've generally been a supporter of Crayton. It was weird how desperate we were to dump him at punt returner. He would have been a great 3rd. He was an insufficient 2nd who we eventually paid too much for. He's much like Terrance, only good, in that his numbers were largely dependent on other players being more of a threat and pushing him down the threat list. He started at WR in 2007 in his third year in the league as a converted QB.

TO wasn't TO in the second half of the game because of the high ankle sprain. Glenn never played another down in the league. Crayton had big fails. Sam Hurd was on the field. The criticism of Crayton is part of a general point on how little Tony had to work with at WR in that game in the second half. And yet, a Crayton away from winning.

The guy I *blame* for this is Jerry. For years he went light on true WRs with gimmick players, special teams players, and developmental players. When Glenn got injured, Jerry did nothing to replace him, leaving us totally exposed if TO got injured. This, in a league where you can get a older veteran WR for a stick of gum. Well, TO did get injured, just in time for the playoffs. Glenn had nothing left.

2011 was similarly lost to lack of WR depth in a season ending game against the Commanders. Hammies Austin and Dez can't finish the game, and Tony is left with trying to win with Ogletree, Harris, and Beasley at WR. Again, only two true wideouts on the team that season.

I'll analyze Dak's limitations. I'll analyze Tony's. With Tony, it was ball protection when young, particularly with fumbles. Tony also tended to take some unnecessary risks. A game management issue. But in his later years, he just got good. He overcame those limitations, but broke down just after he had. Sad.

You ask for consistency. But the contexts of criticism for Tony and Dak aren't the same. With Dak, criticism has been, til this year, a general criticism about flaws in his game and how much he is then worth, and not "he's a big loser who can't win the big one", putting all the blame on Dak for team failures, as Romo gets all the time for the lack of championships and losses in the playoffs.

When some did blame Dak for the 2016 playoff loss to GB, I argued against that too. He had a good game. Not perfect. But good. He was not the problem. It would be silly to blame him for the 2018 loss too.

TO was fine. They said in the telecast he looked fine during practice, Romo told them he was almost 100%, and TO mentioned he was as ready as he will ever be. TO went deep 3 separate times in the 4th quarter and was open two times on those deep balls. Two were under thrown, once because Romo was under pressure. But he was running fine down the field.

 

[buybuydandavis]

TO was fine. They said in the telecast he looked fine during practice, Romo told them he was almost 100%, and TO mentioned he was as ready as he will ever be. TO went deep 3 separate times in the 4th quarter and was open two times on those deep balls. Two were under thrown, once because Romo was under pressure. But he was running fine down the field.

TO was not fine. Three weeks after a high ankle sprain. My recollection is that TO started the game on a pain shot and that wasn't expected to last the entire game. TO had no receptions in the second half and wasn't running great routes. The deep ball that got tipped TO basically didn't run a route and didn't blow by the CB as a healthy TO would have.

 

[Aviano90]

TO was not fine. Three weeks after a high ankle sprain. My recollection is that TO started the game on a pain shot and that wasn't expected to last the entire game. TO had no receptions in the second half and wasn't running great routes. The deep ball that got tipped TO basically didn't run a route and didn't blow by the CB as a healthy TO would have.

We have very different eyes.

 

[LetsBeReal]

And...... You still didn't answer my question or prove me wrong. I get it though, fools like you can't admit when they are wrong

31-3 last weekend
21-0 rookie year playoff game

In both cases he didn’t do shiit till he, being the all mighty leader he is, had the team trailing by at least 3 scores. Then he got his fantasy football stats. And we still lost both games

 

[madcow74]

I'm the biggest Romo fan on this board.... this thread is irrelevant... he is retired move on. Stop comparing Dak to him. They play the game totally different.

End of story !

Disagree.. I love Romo more than everyone but my kids and wife. And yes he would have brought us back against the saints but not the packers. Packers loss was all defense which is what plaqued most of romo's career.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

31-3 last weekend
21-0 rookie year playoff game

In both cases he didn’t do shiit till he, being the all mighty leader he is, had the team trailing by at least 3 scores. Then he got his fantasy football stats. And we still lost both games

You still haven't figured out getting stats in garbage time compared to getting stats when the other team is still blitzing and playing aggressive.

Tell you what, go do some research and once you finally figure it out come back and talk.

 

[JonesBoys]

No, Jason Garrett would still be the coach. In this hypothetical is Garrett not the coach? If so then yes 5-0 with Dak and Romo.

 

[shabazz]

It would stop immediately if Cooper Rush were the starter. No matter how bad it would be there’d always be an excuse. Dak is hated and a target of some people’s agenda.

and our agenda would include taking either Mahomes or Wilson over Dak any day. Still gonna peddle that agenda BS, nephew ?,

 

[G2]

Romo once kicked Chuck Norris' ***.

 

[Sarge]

Romo would have been on IR by the 3rd game.