Video: Break down of the 2 point conversion by Cris Carter and Mangini

Vtwin

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I'm always fascinated by guys who see football but have no idea what they're watching, or are so driven by an agenda that they just come off that way.
You aren't very bright are you?

It's almost like you're saying Dak couldn't have recognized what was coming and changed the play or called the timeout.

It's almost like your saying he couldn't have thrown it a click sooner to the spot they have practiced throwing that pass hundreds of times.

It's almost like your saying Dak has proven himself proficient at throwing those quick, tight window passes in congested areas.

You're not really saying all that, are you?
 

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That play put on display Daks most significant flaws.

Poor job on reading and recognizing the defense.

Always a click or two slow pulling the trigger.

Poor at throwing the quick, tight window pass in the endzone.

And no, I'm not blaming the failure of that play entirely on Dak but he sure didn't do anything to improve the odds when he had options.
a click slow? watch the play again....the whole thing was over in less than 2 seconds. IF the interior line wedged it up to slow the middle blitz, probably an easy td to Witten.
 

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Don't kill yourself over analyzing the play or listening to the TV/radio talk heads talking about (They are paid to talk, any talk, just talk and fill up the airwaves)

It worked a million times with Witten and Romo/Dak. Witten runs to the first down line (goal line in this case) and catches it and every body is happy.
This time, their d-line beat our O-line and hit the QB. He didn't make a good throw and that's it.

Believe me, you are way better off not wasting your time listening/watching talk heads trying to look smart and sell you "talk". I rarely find anything on TV that actually teaches people about Football

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Not a good throw because he was hit as soon as he got the frickin ball in his hands to throw it.
 

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Of course, Dak didn't have any time to look for another option since a blitzer came through completely untouched.

Dak needed to roll to the left as soon as he saw the safety uncovered. It would have given him a few more seconds.
 

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I'm always fascinated by guys who see football but have no idea what they're watching, or are so driven by an agenda that they just come off that way.

Then you must find this forum to be a fascinating place, especially after a loss. At least you can get that one benefit from your Cowboys fandom.
 

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He absolutely could have let the ball go a tick sooner, put it on target and at least had a 50/50 chance of a completion.
I noticed that right before the throw, he "taped" to his hand - I don't know if it was just to get a better grip or its a little habit he's developing.
 

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So at what point do you expect your 4th year, franchise QB to recognize what we all saw and either change the play or call the timeout?
OMG, this, this, and more of this. I was saying this immediately after the play. He knew it was coming, call the dang timeout, change the blocking assignments, audible, roll out....DO SOMETHING!!!!
 

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a click slow? watch the play again....the whole thing was over in less than 2 seconds. IF the interior line wedged it up to slow the middle blitz, probably an easy td to Witten.
Well I have watched a couple dozen times.

Dak got the snap and drifted back. Meanwhile Witten did his thing and was literally standing there waiting.

Yes, the pressure came hard and fast but Dak could have and should have recognized that and gotten the ball out of his hands for the bang bang play that would have at least given it a chance. Ball and Witten arriving at the same time. Not Witten waiting and the ball going off target.

There was time for that.
 

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They hit all the nail on the head in this video segment. Going empty backfield for the 2 point conversion was strange unless they were thinking of running the QB draw. But why not roll Dak out once in a while? We don;t see enough of that.

The analysis of the 4th down call was also good. The Jets were blitzing a lot and getting good penetration off those tackles. That play in that situation was never going to work. Kick the FG. Take the points and its a 1 point game. Plus, the Cowboys keep the momentum instead of giving the Jets a huge boost.
 

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I know some were happy we went for that 4th down instead of the 3, but it was really stupid. And not just in retrospect. You just don’t do that.

Garrett is not a good coach. He’s not an average coach. He has no feel for the game. Don’t forget it took him like 7 years to learn what 10 year old madden players know about clock management.

Then that last play. How bad was that? I bet these opposing coaches are amazed how they can so easily outsmart our staff. I bet they think “this might be the time they change it up”—they never do. Literally.
 

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So when their RPO got stuffed on the 4th and 2, was that a Garrett staple? Are all the red zone issues that go back with Dak, exclusively a return to Garrett calling plays?
 

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Mangini and Cris Carter breaks down the 2point conversion play. I know Moore called this play and will get the blame but this play has been staple of JG's offense. A play where all the receiver run a curl route to a same depth. 322 all curl.

Typically we run this play a lot on 3rd and long where all the receiver runs near the stick and gets tackled short of the 1st down marker. One of the worst plays we've ran/run in JG era.



Except they ran the same curl to Austin on 3rd 8 short of the sticks and he went for 20 in the 2nd quarter...lol
 

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You aren't very bright are you?

It's almost like you're saying Dak couldn't have recognized what was coming and changed the play or called the timeout.

It's almost like your saying he couldn't have thrown it a click sooner to the spot they have practiced throwing that pass hundreds of times.

It's almost like your saying Dak has proven himself proficient at throwing those quick, tight window passes in congested areas.

You're not really saying all that, are you?

It was a bad throw, like three feet behind Witten. He had enough time to put it where Witten turned.

That being said, I don’t get why people are harping in the spread, when the previous play to score the TD was a QB run. They probably tried catching them off guard with the spread. Maybe a QB draw.
 
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Dak had zero chance to make a throw ...............zero, blocker was untouched, horrible call
listen to Romo, he knew you had to go outside because they were coming. Dak still had a chance to throw to the inside of Witten, not to the outside where the DB was hanging out.

edit: Since the nfl.com site is managed by people new to the internet, just use this link and scroll down on the right side where they have the 2 point attempt

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019...ets?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019101310
 

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but if Dak can read a defense he knew 22 was coming
A QB can often tell a blitz is coming, but his expectation would be for someone to pick up the blitzed or at least slow him down.
 
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