Dak should carry this offense

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In this game though the defense was on the field too much due to their inability to get off it. The offense held the ball for long periods of time despite the poor running game.

that’s what the facts show.
Our first two possessions dictated the game IMO. And our 3rd possession almost ended the game. From that point on it played very well.

I just don’t know how we expect to overcome these deficits from early in the game. We know our defense can’t carry us. Our offense must from the onset.
 

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Overall yes. We left them on the field too long.

Our dominating running game controlling TOP in the entire game has a more positive effect on this team winning games. Part of that positive impact is it leaves our defense off the field.
I would love for our offense to be on the field 75% of the time. The fact is the offense does a good job controlling the ball and the defense does a bad job of getting the opposing offense off the field. As a matter of fact, the defense is 5th worst in the league. The defense allows the other team to gobble up clock. If we want improvement in overall Time of Possession, we need the defense to make some plays and get themselves off the field. That's the low hanging fruit in the equation.
 

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I would love for our offense to be on the field 75% of the time. The fact is the offense does a good job controlling the ball and the defense does a bad job of getting the opposing offense off the field. As a matter of fact, the defense is 5th worst in the league. The defense allows the other team to gobble up clock. If we want improvement in overall Time of Possession, we need the defense to make some plays and get themselves off the field. That's the low hanging fruit in the equation.
If you go back to our method of success in recent years especially with Prescott you’d see that controlling time of possession offensively was a key factor to our success. If we pound the rock on an 8 minute drive that leaves less opportunity for opponent masking our defenses weaknesses.

We are Cap and talent heavy on offense. It must the more dominant factor.
 

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I would love for our offense to be on the field 75% of the time. The fact is the offense does a good job controlling the ball and the defense does a bad job of getting the opposing offense off the field. As a matter of fact, the defense is 5th worst in the league. The defense allows the other team to gobble up clock. If we want improvement in overall Time of Possession, we need the defense to make some plays and get themselves off the field. That's the low hanging fruit in the equation.
He just won't get it dude. He's not capable.
 

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Our first two possessions dictated the game IMO. And our 3rd possession almost ended the game. From that point on it played very well.

I just don’t know how we expect to overcome these deficits from early in the game. We know our defense can’t carry us. Our offense must from the onset.

the defense is just as big a part of the slow starts.

The defense plays bend but don’t break. They keep total points down. But they let the opposing offense hold the ball too long and stay on the field too much. It’s a defensive strategy problem.

bend but don’t break only works if you generate a good amount of turnovers. Which our defense fails to do.
 

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If you go back to our method of success in recent years especially with Prescott you’d see that controlling time of possession offensively was a key factor to our success. If we pound the rock on an 8 minute drive that leaves less opportunity for opponent masking our defenses weaknesses.

We are Cap and talent heavy on offense. It must the more dominant factor.
Yeah, I would love an 8 minute drive. And, if we do that and the defense then allows a 10 minute drive, who's at fault, in your opinion, for having a -2 minute TOP deficit?
 

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We all know this. Once he has his narrative, he will not budge off of it. He never has been able to regardless of how many facts are presented.
It was fine before. But don't BS everyone by saying "i'm just trying to understand why..." then we tell him why and he resorts to "wow those facts sound narrative driven so I'm going to stick to my own narrative".

Like just sthu then and dont waste peoples time
 

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It was fine before. But don't BS everyone by saying "i'm just trying to understand why..." then we tell him why and he resorts to "wow those facts sound narrative driven so I'm going to stick to my own narrative".

Like just sthu then and dont waste peoples time
I was trying to understand this TOP drive stat which I’m not disputing just arguing it’s effects and the narrative attached. And then why the Total TOP is a contributing factor as well.
 

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Typical troll like behavior. Don’t like the message ...attack and attempt to discredit the messenger.
3 different people openly laughed at your inability to comprehend basic math and logic.

We’re all wrong and you’re right, old man.
:lmao2:
 

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3 different people openly laughed at your inability to comprehend basic math and logic.

We’re all wrong and you’re right, old man.
:lmao2:
I comprehend it . I just don’t agree with the narrative attached.

And you can’t resist your little snide remarks . Which I won’t lower myself to respond.
 

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Are they budging off of their narrative ?
I would budge off my narrative if the offense was one of the worst in the league at sustaining drives and the defense was one of the best in the league at getting teams off the field. I would start blaming the offense. I'm almost positive the others would too, unless they were just hell bent on dismissing the objective data while formulating their opinion.
 

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I would budge off my narrative if the offense was one of the worst in the league at sustaining drives and the defense was one of the best in the league at getting teams off the field. I would start blaming the offense. I'm almost positive the others would too, unless they were just hell bent on dismissing the objective data while formulating their opinion.
Bottom line is whatever we are doing now isn’t winning football .

When we were pounding the rock dominating Total TOP masking our weaknesses on defense it was.

It’s why teams are focusing on shutting down our running game.

Let Dak pass for 400 yards leading the league, etc. It’s not a winning formula for this team. At least not against better teams.
 
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We need to do whatever supports pounding the rock controlling Total TOP. Which I’d suggest will keep our defense off the field.

Maybe we need to run Dak more like the Ravens are doing with Jackson. Use Pollard more. Something to open it up.

Because defenses appear content with Dak throwing for big numbers because they know it gives their offense more time to keep our offense off the field.

24 points isn’t enough if we allow their offense more time to score. Our offense must play keep away to protect our defense.
 

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The funniest part is him thinking you have to pound the rock(which is what we did in the Jets and Vikes game and why we lost) to control TOP. Which is just silly beyond belief.

We even have very clear evidence from last week that even with our running game being completely inept that we can control the clock on the offensive side of the ball while airing it out.

There's so many flaws in his logic.
 

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Without a better defense or defensive philosophy, we're going no where. Whether we feature Dak or Zeke.
Correct.

We are heavily invested on offense. Our OL alone is 30% of our Cap. We are built to dominate on the ground.

Our defense is too vulnerable against the run for our offense to get off to slow starts and deficits.

We can’t afford to air it out overcoming slow starts and deficits and expect to come out on top. Not against the better teams.
 

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The funniest part is him thinking you have to pound the rock(which is what we did in the Jets and Vikes game and why we lost) to control TOP. Which is just silly beyond belief.

We even have very clear evidence from last week that even with our running game being completely inept that we can control the clock on the offensive side of the ball while airing it out.

There's so many flaws in his logic.
But we didn’t control the clock. Vikings beat us in Total TOP because they did pound the rock.

And our offense can’t get off to slow starts. Our defense isn’t good enough to help overcome.
 
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