Dak should carry this offense

QuincyCarterEra

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But we didn’t control the clock. Vikings beat us in Total TOP because they did pound the rock.

And our offense can’t get off to slow starts. Our defense isn’t good enough to help overcome.

I JUST SAID WE CONTROLLED TOP ON THE OFFENSIVE SIDE OF THE BALL IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT THERE!!!!! I WILL SAY FOR THE BLOOMIN 30TH TIME 3 MINS AND 7 SECONDS WOULD BE AMONGST THE NFLS ELITE IN THAT CATEGORY.

Your take has now desolved to that if we "pounded the rock" that it would have lowered our defenses time of possession on the field per drive. Which of course is very stupid.

I'm going to end this with how it started. You were wrong, as you can tell by literally everyone correcting you,. This could have ended 7 pages ago if you were at all capable of admitting when you're wrong. You had a hypothesis that you presented as fact, it was wrong. End of story.
 

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I JUST SAID WE CONTROLLED TOP ON THE OFFENSIVE SIDE OF THE BALL IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT THERE!!!!! I WILL SAY FOR THE BLOOMIN 30TH TIME 3 MINS AND 7 SECONDS WOULD BE AMONGST THE NFLS ELITE IN THAT CATEGORY.

Your take has now desolved to that if we "pounded the rock" that it would have lowered our defenses time of possession on the field per drive. Which of course is very stupid.

I'm going to end this with how it started. You were wrong, as you can tell by literally everyone correcting you,. This could have ended 7 pages ago if you were at all capable of admitting when you're wrong. You had a hypothesis that you presented as fact, it was wrong. End of story.
But not Total TOP. Not sure you are getting my argument.

Imagine if the Cowboys had the ball longer. Based on your formula we probably would have won the game.

But we didn’t. And that IMO is the problem .
 

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Did we have any drives as long as the Vikings ? No.

Why because airing it out doesn’t Control the clock like pounding the rock.

Sunday was a rare game in Cowboy history we didn’t even convert a 1st down on the ground.

Our offense airing it out isn’t doing our defense any favors. Not unless it scores a TD on every possession.
 

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holy crap.

I just told you that’s what you’re arguing and explained to you why that is very clearly wrong.

You are talking to the same guy that has said on several occasions that he loves the job that Garrett is doing. I even posted one of his mind blowing quotes in my signature. Check it out if you like.
 

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Did we have any drives as long as the Vikings ? No.

Why because airing it out doesn’t Control the clock like pounding the rock.

Sunday was a rare game in Cowboy history we didn’t even convert a 1st down on the ground.

Our offense airing it out isn’t doing our defense any favors. Not unless it scores a TD on every possession.

Getting stuffed and punting after 3 plays doesnt do anything for TOP. Picking up first downs is how you win TOP.
 

QuincyCarterEra

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But not Total TOP. Not sure you are getting my argument.

Imagine if the Cowboys had the ball longer. Based on your formula we probably would have won the game.

But we didn’t. And that IMO is the problem .

No you aren't getting it. I would love to imagine having the ball longer. How does that get accomplished? How do we go from holding the ball an elite amount to time to even more time? It must be very simple.

No need to say IMO, everything you say is your opinion no facts involved.
 

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Except it's not. Lmao



When you dont have actual support for your view point, just make something up and hope theres not stats out there to disprove it

This doesn’t prove your point. It is well known that stopping Zeke and making Dak beat the defense is the approach taken to beat Dallas. Zeke was shut down Sunday and the result was a loss. It is fairly common.
 

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This doesn’t prove your point. It is well known that stopping Zeke and making Dak beat the defense is the approach taken to beat Dallas. Zeke was shut down Sunday and the result was a loss. It is fairly common.

Yet while shutting Zeke down, our offense was elite. 24 points on 8 drives. Dak beat the hell out of their defense.

Yes it does, they challenged Zeke to beat them by now loading the box and he couldn't produce a lick. So we had to turn to Dak and he nearly won us the game despite our rushing attack, our defense, and our special teams all producing huge negative expected points added.

Really poor post on your part.
 

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Nah, that’s not what it was code for, and I wasn’t the only one who noticed it when you said it.

You exposed yourself as a vile, inferior joke of a human being already. Own it.
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But you don’t have class by any means.
 

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Yet while shutting Zeke down, our offense was elite. 24 points on 8 drives. Dak beat the hell out of their defense.

Yes it does, they challenged Zeke to beat them by now loading the box and he couldn't produce a lick. So we had to turn to Dak and he nearly won us the game despite our rushing attack, our defense, and our special teams all producing huge negative expected points added.

Really poor post on your part.
Nearly don’t count.
 

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I comprehend it . I just don’t agree with the narrative attached.

And you can’t resist your little snide remarks . Which I won’t lower myself to respond.
No, you didn’t.

That’s why you asked how “time of possession per drive” is calculated.
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No, you didn’t.

That’s why you asked how “time of possession per drive” is calculated.
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I didn’t initially because I hadn’t heard of it. But once explained I did. I’m an accounting major. I can calculate quickly. I still stand firm on my message.

And that offensive TOP might work for some teams but it isn’t ours. It’s not playing into our strengths nor protecting our weaknesses.
 

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You simple can't blame Dak for this loss. He was throwing extremely well, and making mostly very good decisions. This game is on the coaching and the defense.

Oh don’t worry. He can and will blame the loss on Dak, despite it being completely wrong.
 

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You simple can't blame Dak for this loss. He was throwing extremely well, and making mostly very good decisions. This game is on the coaching and the defense.
Agreed . But it’s also on our lack to run the ball. Their defense deserves credit on taking us out of our strength which help mask our weaknesses on defense.
 

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Getting stuffed and punting after 3 plays doesnt do anything for TOP. Picking up first downs is how you win TOP.
Correct and doing so on the ground chews up even more clock.

I understand we have to abort the running game at times but it’s not a winning formula for us against these better teams because it’s leaves our defense more vulnerable.
 

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No you aren't getting it. I would love to imagine having the ball longer. How does that get accomplished? How do we go from holding the ball an elite amount to time to even more time? It must be very simple.

No need to say IMO, everything you say is your opinion no facts involved.
Controlling TOP is very simple. Pound the rock much like the Vikings did.

And I use IMO so as not to come off as though my beliefs are factual which you accused me of earlier.
 

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You simply can't blame Dak for this loss. He was throwing extremely well, and making mostly very good decisions. This game is on the coaching and the defense.

I can, and I am a Dak supporter. I like Dak. I think he could've made better decisions on that last drive. That was my only gripe that game. Going twice to a player that was a non factor the whole game was wrong.

Defense still gets most of the blame. They are a mess. But, I blame everyone. Just like every win, everyone is involved. Coaches included.
 

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I can, and I am a Dak supporter. I like Dak. I think he could've made better decisions on that last drive. That was my only gripe that game. Going twice to a player that was a non factor the whole game was wrong.

Defense still gets most of the blame. They are a mess. But, I blame everyone. Just like every win, everyone is involved. Coaches included.
If it was truly his decision to run Zeke twice, then yes, he gets part of the blame, and definitely gets the blame for throwing to him on 4th, but I meant that you can't pin the loss on him. He did some pretty special things that kept it within reach. Had the rest of the team played even competently, we would've easily won the game.
 
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