Fans need a scapegoat

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Lmao. He wasn’t in control. He never appeared to be in control in the entire show. I guess we saw two different amazon shows, because I saw nothing to support your theory. The show took place in Zeke’s suspension year, AKA, Dak’s worst year yet. He wasn’t leading much that year in all honesty.
he's calling out kill, kill, kill on about every play then throwing it. hum wonder what the original play was?

I'll defer to the ones that know more than I do, but couldn't kill also just change from a screen to a deep shot? (or vice versa) I really do not know. Just asking.
 

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how about this dak made some good plays and some really bad plays.
To me the reason was he was passing too much, and not running the ball enough. with bills pass rush dak needed to take off and run from the pocket early to set a tone.
Then once it was obvious the run was working better than the pass, they should have went run heavy but they stayed with the pass which led to all the bad plays, and was exactly what the bills wanted.

The fact that the Cowboys could not or would not run the ball (12 attempts by Zeke) made playing QB in this offensive scheme extremely difficult.

It is highly unlikely that any QB would play better in this offensive scheme under the same conditions.

They designed this offensive scheme and the roster to be a run heavy offense. It was known that if they could not run that they would struggle.
 

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Says the guy that says Dak sucking was because of Dez, that if Bruce Butler started, all our issues would go bye-bye, the same Dez who was
then let go to make the offense “Dak friendly” and Dallas had to then desperately give up a first to get Cooper to somewhat salvage Dak from becoming even worse than Quincy Carter...
 

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Seems as though the OP is looking for Scapegoats as well. The reality is the team has under-performed. Poor blocking. Missed tackles. Dropped passes. Bad throws. How often do they abandon the run despite it being successful? I blame that on an O.C. who has a QB mentality, for obvious reasons. Horrible special teams play. A secondary that has regressed. There is plenty of blame to go around. Everyone deserve a bite out of the crap sandwich that this season has become.

The vast majority of posts here are the Saints game were that the Cowboys kept trying to run the ball when it was NOT working.

Now when they get away from forcing the run when it's not working fans don't like that either.
 

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This game the haters managed to convince emotional fans to join the "Dax Sucked" narrative.

Garrett has been a complete failure this season and Garrett reached an all time low with the Bills game.

Many fans wanted Garrett to fail beyond the point of no return and now he has done it.

Yet, the majority of fans are so emotional that they can't even realize what has happened.

They want to cry and claim that Dak had a bad game.

None of the cry-babies have even reviewed the game but think that they know what happened.

Emotional Fan: "Awe seen it wit my own eye balls...that Dak feller sux"

Question to emotional fans: Did you review the game?

Emotional Fan: Naw. I don't do that.

Question to emotional fan: Don't you want to know that really happened?

Emotional Fan: Well, I had a 12 pack during the game and only missed a dozen or so plays while I went to recycle that beeeer. Oh yah, I also went out to smoke a few times but my buddies told me what happened.

Summary:
The Cowboys lost.

Emotional Fans can't get a narrative going on the usual suspects below:
  • Garrett succeed on his high risk 4th down call. Makes it harder to blame him.
  • Zeke didn't get stuffed much (because he barely had any rushes). Makes it harder to blame him.
  • The defense didn't have that many terrible plays. Makes it harder to blame them...
  • The WRs didn't have too many drops. Makes it harder to blame them.
  • Jeff Heath did NOT play. Makes it harder to blame him, although @Sydia probably did anyway...
  • Jourdan Lewis did play. Emotional fans asked for him. They won't admit he was one of the worst players in the game.

That leaves Dak to take the the blame. Just a few negative posts about Dak and the followers with get on board the narrative. People that have not and never have reviewed game footage will argue any and all points about the positive aspects of how Dak played.

Emotion Fans will claim Dak sucked until the Cowboys next big win and then many of them will deny even claiming Dak sucked. The others will go back to their hovels just waiting for another game where they can entice emotional fans into believing their narrative that Dak sux.

There are probably still a few lingering Romo haters that hope he will return to play in the NFL and will really suck which would allow them to attempt to create a narrative that he always sucked. I envision one of those Japanese Soldiers cast away on an island and 10 years later didn't know the war was over.
Same thing happened for years under Romo as well.

Dak is having a season for the ages but somehow he's the scapegoat.
 

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Meyer maybe willing to due it in order to rehabilitate his image. After the domestic violence scandal broke with one of his assistants and he didnt report it, he kinda got caught up in the metoo movement and that lead to his suspension and ultimate resignation.

For a coach that has won championships, I am sure he doesn't want to go out like this. What better way to rehabilitate your image and reputation than to come to the Cowboys and win a ring. I could see that being very tempting to him.

I guess we shall see.

I’m all for Meyer, because of Zeke.
 

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The fact that the Cowboys could not or would not run the ball (12 attempts by Zeke) made playing QB in this offensive scheme extremely difficult.

It is highly unlikely that any QB would play better in this offensive scheme under the same conditions.

They designed this offensive scheme and the roster to be a run heavy offense. It was known that if they could not run that they would struggle.
And that’s why defenses focus on shutting down or at least stifling Elliott. It’s a clearer path to victory.

Our passing offensive numbers have been elevated because we fall behind early. But this team isn’t built to dominate thru the air.

And the collateral damage is without dominating TOP pounding the ball on the ground we leave our defense on the field longer which is more vulnerable to the prolific passing QB’s and offense we face on these better opponents.
 

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The vast majority of posts here are the Saints game were that the Cowboys kept trying to run the ball when it was NOT working.

Now when they get away from forcing the run when it's not working fans don't like that either.

Yeah, I've noticed the same.
 

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Personally I'm okay if they let Dak walk after this season. I really hope that kid doesn't waste his life in this loser organization that wasted the careers of Romo, Witten, Dez, Ware, Lee etc.
 

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The vast majority of posts here are the Saints game were that the Cowboys kept trying to run the ball when it was NOT working.

Now when they get away from forcing the run when it's not working fans don't like that either.
Casual fans typically play Monday Morning QB.

It’s brilliant if it works and Idiots if it doesn’t. Second guessing.
 
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Yeah, I've noticed the same.

I think what the fans expect is consistency. No one is expecting 100% run or pass. But to start the game off running the ball well and then just abruptly abandon it completely. It wasn't even like they were falling behind when they abandoned it. They were tied at 7-7 and just abandoned the run. You saw the same thing in NE. The weather was terrible and they go pass happy? Where is the sense in that? Makes about as much sense as Garrett's decision to kick a 50 yard FG into the wind. This team is terrible at situational football in every facet of the game.
 

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Dak is a serviceable QB. I’m much more convinced this year we can build around him. But our offense isn’t as effective without pounding the running game. And it leaves our defense more vulnerable.

Romo said it best Thursday when he said it’s the little things like turnovers and penalties that’s stifling drives. And we must control time of possession rushing the ball finishing drives making it tougher on these better opponents. Basically what some of us have been saying.
 

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But our offense isn’t as effective without pounding the running game.

Even here the question that really needs to be asked is why does it need to be one or the other? Do you need to have a pounding running game? Do you need to have an offense than average 9 yards a pass? Or is it better to have an offense that can do everything well and can situationally use what it needs to use to exploit defenses?
 

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Even here the question that really needs to be asked is why does it need to be one or the other? Do you need to have a pounding running game? Do you need to have an offense than average 9 yards a pass? Or is it better to have an offense that can do everything well and can situationally use what it needs to use to exploit defenses?
You need to go with your strengths.

Our talent and Cap is invested with our OL and RB. A third of our Cap alone is on OL.

It’s a proven method for us to dominate and win with our running game.

With our defense it’s probably even more important. Our offense is Cap heavy . It must carry the defense. And a big part of that is keeping it off the field and not turning it over.
 

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Dak is a serviceable QB. I’m much more convinced this year we can build around him. But our offense isn’t as effective without pounding the running game. And it leaves our defense more vulnerable.

Romo said it best Thursday when he said it’s the little things like turnovers and penalties that’s stifling drives. And we must control time of possession rushing the ball finishing drives making it tougher on these better opponents. Basically what some of us have been saying.

Agreed.

It's not an untalented football team.

It's a sloppy football team.
 

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I think what the fans expect is consistency. No one is expecting 100% run or pass. But to start the game off running the ball well and then just abruptly abandon it completely. It wasn't even like they were falling behind when they abandoned it. They were tied at 7-7 and just abandoned the run. You saw the same thing in NE. The weather was terrible and they go pass happy? Where is the sense in that? Makes about as much sense as Garrett's decision to kick a 50 yard FG into the wind. This team is terrible at situational football in every facet of the game.

No surprise from a team that has openly admitted they don’t use analytics. Their choice of playing the game based on “feelings” is no different than the fans who choose to base their opinions off just the live game broadcast.
 

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Says the guy that says Dak sucking was because of Dez, that if Bruce Butler started, all our issues would go bye-bye, the same Dez who was
then let go to make the offense “Dak friendly” and Dallas had to then desperately give up a first to get Cooper to somewhat salvage Dak from becoming even worse than Quincy Carter...
:hammer:
 
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