It's not Garrett's fault

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Rockport said:
You’re obviously just looking for an argument. It goes without saying that Jerry gets the blame for hiring and not firing Garrett. But the product on the field from game to game is all from the coaching. Jerry’s not coaching, he’s not calling plays, he’s not putting players out there or not, he’s not making adjustments throughout the game. This thread is a big FAIL.
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I agree. its garrett's short coming as a head coach that's the issue. so letting garrett go is the answer. should have happened 5 years ago. we are here today, because Jerry didn't pull the plug. he ultimately controls who calls the plays. that's a GM's responsibility.
 

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nate dizzle said:
Garrett sucking is Garrett's fault. Your thread title implies something else.
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perhaps I should have said, that ultimately all responsibility is on Jerry. I don't hate garrett. he is incompetent as a head coach. he is limited. that's not his fault. there is plenty of shiity coaches out there. ultimately Jerry could have avoided all of this. the fact is he didn't. he put a limited coach, with limited ability in charge. he refused to replace him. he spun and spun and spun. until we ended up in this mess. just like before.
 

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GORICO said:
Cowboys-Houson---- Jerry and Garrett or just Jerry....i dont disagree with you...but Jerry wont step down....how can a team look so good one week and so bad next week and this whole season its gone badly?....just makes me sick
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this team is out of sorts. its almost there but never there. not sure how you fix it. Jerry is Jerry is the problem. we ended up in this mess where we could have avoided it a few years ago. we ended up with the same mess with Wade. we ended up the same with Parcells. and campo and Switzer. I don't hold hope. the next coach. the next ray of hope and the same results. Jerry may not meddle the first year, but in the end, he does what he does, stick his finger in it and screw it up.
 

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Big_D said:
We’ll see if he takes this opportunity to wake up? Unfortunately he isn’t going anywhere so that narrows it down to Garrett. He had no business being hired in the first. And yes that is definitely Jerry’s fault. I agree But I do think a smarter coach can win here despite Jones.
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he did once. he admitted before hiring Parcells and letting parcells educate him. it lasted two years before he thought he has learned everything and started to meddle again and Parcells left. he may do the same thing, except now he is more desparate.
 
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CowboysFaninHouston said:
garrett is limited as a head coach. he is not purposely sabotaging anything as some may suggest. he is just a limited in certain aspects of the game and I am sure garrett haters will just pour it on...so get it out of your system...garrett is doing his best and his best is just average and not good....that's not his fault.

can you jump 10 feet? why not? because you just can't.....he is limited.

this is all on Jerry. if Garrett is bad and has been bad, then why keep him. why be middle of the pack. if you think we have the talent, then why keep a coach to limit the team.... then you keep a coach in the last year of a contract, what do you expect to happen? catch lightening in a bottle? then no sane, good for anything, worth their play book OC is going to come to dallas knowing the head coach is on the last year of his contract and there is a meddling owner. so he promotes Moore and sells everyone on Moore. and tells everyone if Moore doesn't call the plays, then Moore can come to him directly!!! really...what type of message does that send to the organization, the players, coaches...

this is all Jerry's fault. he is the GM and he needs to be held responsible for this mess.

now, hate on garrett all you want, but your anger is misdirected.
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I would never claim Garrett's problems are due to a lack of effort on his part. He's done his best. He's just not the right man for the job. Yes, Jerry's responsible. He hired a coach who's not up to the task, plus he meddles too much. I have no resentment toward Jason Garrett whatsoever. He's a great guy who has done his best. He's just not cut out for this. When he's fired, he will not be hired as anyone's head coach unless it's at a high school or a Pop Warner league. It's debatable if he could even get an OC or DC job in the NFL. This does not mean he's stupid. He's a very intelligent man, but an NFL head coach is just a very specialized job that not anyone could do.
 

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CowboysFaninHouston said:
garrett is limited as a head coach. he is not purposely sabotaging anything as some may suggest. he is just a limited in certain aspects of the game and I am sure garrett haters will just pour it on...so get it out of your system...garrett is doing his best and his best is just average and not good....that's not his fault.

can you jump 10 feet? why not? because you just can't.....he is limited.

this is all on Jerry. if Garrett is bad and has been bad, then why keep him. why be middle of the pack. if you think we have the talent, then why keep a coach to limit the team.... then you keep a coach in the last year of a contract, what do you expect to happen? catch lightening in a bottle? then no sane, good for anything, worth their play book OC is going to come to dallas knowing the head coach is on the last year of his contract and there is a meddling owner. so he promotes Moore and sells everyone on Moore. and tells everyone if Moore doesn't call the plays, then Moore can come to him directly!!! really...what type of message does that send to the organization, the players, coaches...

this is all Jerry's fault. he is the GM and he needs to be held responsible for this mess.

now, hate on garrett all you want, but your anger is misdirected.
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I agree, he’s not purposely sabotaging anything, he just sucks.....I wish him well elsewhere.

Im po’d that we wasted so many years on an incompetent coach....you can go back 7 years on this forum and many of us wanted him fired then.
 
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ChuckA1 said:
The team was unprepared for the game with the Eagles. That is purely on the coaches.
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That is partially true, but dropped passes, overthrows, shanked punts, missed INTs, poor coverage, that all adds to the turd stew.
 

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Reverend Conehead said:
I would never claim Garrett's problems are due to a lack of effort on his part. He's done his best. He's just not the right man for the job. Yes, Jerry's responsible. He hired a coach who's not up to the task, plus he meddles too much. I have no resentment toward Jason Garrett whatsoever. He's a great guy who has done his best. He's just not cut out for this. When he's fired, he will not be hired as anyone's head coach unless it's at a high school or a Pop Warner league. It's debatable if he could even get an OC or DC job in the NFL. This does not mean he's stupid. He's a very intelligent man, but an NFL head coach is just a very specialized job that not anyone could do.
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I doubt if he won't have an NFL job. we cowboys fans love to live in the extreme's....pop warner is a bit extreme...

its 25+ years of frustration.....ame story repeating over and over and over and over and over
 
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CowboysFaninHouston said:
garrett is limited as a head coach. he is not purposely sabotaging anything as some may suggest. he is just a limited in certain aspects of the game and I am sure garrett haters will just pour it on...so get it out of your system...garrett is doing his best and his best is just average and not good....that's not his fault.

can you jump 10 feet? why not? because you just can't.....he is limited.

this is all on Jerry. if Garrett is bad and has been bad, then why keep him. why be middle of the pack. if you think we have the talent, then why keep a coach to limit the team.... then you keep a coach in the last year of a contract, what do you expect to happen? catch lightening in a bottle? then no sane, good for anything, worth their play book OC is going to come to dallas knowing the head coach is on the last year of his contract and there is a meddling owner. so he promotes Moore and sells everyone on Moore. and tells everyone if Moore doesn't call the plays, then Moore can come to him directly!!! really...what type of message does that send to the organization, the players, coaches...

this is all Jerry's fault. he is the GM and he needs to be held responsible for this mess.

now, hate on garrett all you want, but your anger is misdirected.
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Plenty of blame to go around
 
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CowboysFaninHouston said:
garrett is limited as a head coach. he is not purposely sabotaging anything as some may suggest. he is just a limited in certain aspects of the game and I am sure garrett haters will just pour it on...so get it out of your system...garrett is doing his best and his best is just average and not good....that's not his fault.

can you jump 10 feet? why not? because you just can't.....he is limited.

this is all on Jerry. if Garrett is bad and has been bad, then why keep him. why be middle of the pack. if you think we have the talent, then why keep a coach to limit the team.... then you keep a coach in the last year of a contract, what do you expect to happen? catch lightening in a bottle? then no sane, good for anything, worth their play book OC is going to come to dallas knowing the head coach is on the last year of his contract and there is a meddling owner. so he promotes Moore and sells everyone on Moore. and tells everyone if Moore doesn't call the plays, then Moore can come to him directly!!! really...what type of message does that send to the organization, the players, coaches...

this is all Jerry's fault. he is the GM and he needs to be held responsible for this mess.

now, hate on garrett all you want, but your anger is misdirected.
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yep Jerry is a problem but he’s not going away.
JGs problem is that he can’t do anything a coach gets paid to do.
He cannot:
1) find mismatches
2) mask deficiencies
3) manage a game
4) motivate a team
5) instill any discipline
6) get players to play together as a team and make the team more than the sum of its parts
7) any of the above with any semblance of consistency

he’s terrible at all of the above...what do we pay him for that he does well? I’ll wait....and don’t say clap
 
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