Fix the defense, tweak the offense and overall ST's

[quickccc]

Why do people keep insisting we abandoned the run, did you guys watch the games?
We did not run well. In only 2 games were we good starting out games running. We consistently did well on offense when we came out passing early. We got leads and ran well the rest of the game. When we forced the run, we fell behind early by multiple scores, and had to pass and lost the game.

with the most prominant key stetch run Kellen being so anxious to get Dak going in rhythm, but he left behind a optional weapon that could have
taken the heat off Dak who coincedently struggled in each of those competitive game;

- at NE , zeke was running well early but we stopped running including only 5 carries for zeke in 2nd half

- Buffalo thanksgiving, even had a surprising 7-0 early lead (after struggling to get a lead all year) zeke and run game doing well, abandon it and
eventually Buff takes lead and we continue pass heavy

- at philly zeke always kill philly so its' obvious and that wasn't a blow out game most of the game, even if 10-0 you still involve zeke run and you cannot stop brakes just because he has an occasional 2 or 1 yard run,

- only the Rams and Skins game can i say Kellen put the foot on the peddle and kept running the ball down opponents throats

 

[morat1959]

Nothing changes if the clapper has any hand in it. No matter what other changes are made. Jerry is the cancer. The clapper feeds it!

 

[blindzebra]

with the most prominant key stetch run Kellen being so anxious to get Dak going in rhythm, but he left behind a optional weapon that could have
taken the heat off Dak who coincedently struggled in each of those competitive game;

- at NE , zeke was running well early but we stopped running including only 5 carries for zeke in 2nd half

- Buffalo thanksgiving, even had a surprising 7-0 early lead (after struggling to get a lead all year) zeke and run game doing well, abandon it and
eventually Buff takes lead and we continue pass heavy

- at philly zeke always kill philly so its' obvious and that wasn't a blow out game most of the game, even if 10-0 you still involve zeke run and you cannot stop brakes just because he has an occasional 2 or 1 yard run,

- only the Rams and Skins game can i say Kellen put the foot on the peddle and kept running the ball down opponents throats

The numbers speak for themselves. The offense worked best when we passed, built a lead, and set up the run. Every time they forced the run it blew up in their faces.

This is not a call for passing 45 times a game, in fact, it is just the opposite. Running early constantly put us in a hole which led to passing 45-50 times. When we passed early, we ran more effectively, which meant we could pass LESS.
Not being efficient running is why we had to pass more. It is not about volume, it is about doing what is most effective, when it is most effective. We did not do that when we force fed Zeke early in games. The Viking game is the perfect example. They played nickel, daring us to run and they completely stopped the run with 6 guys. The passing game gave us a shot to win, but instead of learning that we could not run, we ran they stopped it, and we lost.

Compare our big plays rushing with other teams. Baltimore had almost 20 runs over 20 yards. Dallas had 9. Pollard in 215 fewer carries had the same number of 20+ runs 4 as Elliott. If you force the run without big plays, you always play close games, so a turnover NO, a blocked punt NE, or a missed FG multiple games, will beat you and it did. I'd add that the bulk of those big runs, came later in games where big plays in the passing game built the lead.

 

[Captain43Crash]

We did not abandon the run. We did not run efficiently. The mistake was forcing the run early, especially on early downs, which led to 3 and outs and getting behind by multiple scores. That caused those 45-50 pass attempt games. In the games where they came out passing early, especially on first down, we scored, built leads, and that allowed us to run more effectively. Forcing the feed Zeke cost wins and actually caused MORE PASSING.

Yes we need a tweak, but it is not running more, it is running MORE EFFICIENTLY.

Exactly! Take what the defense gives you. We tried to run the ball vs Minnesota and Philly when they were stacking the box. How well did that workout? We have the talent to pass the ball or run the ball under the right circumstances. In general, run when the box is light and pass when it is heavy! Why is this so complicated to fans and some coaches?

 

[quickccc]

blindzebra said: ↑
We did not abandon the run. We did not run efficiently. The mistake was forcing the run early, especially on early downs, which led to 3 and outs and getting behind by multiple scores. That caused those 45-50 pass attempt games. In the games where they came out passing early, especially on first down, we scored, built leads, and that allowed us to run more effectively. Forcing the feed Zeke cost wins and actually caused MORE PASSING.

Yes we need a tweak, but it is not running more, it is running MORE EFFICIENTLY.

Exactly! Take what the defense gives you. We tried to run the ball vs Minnesota and Philly when they were stacking the box. How well did that workout? We have the talent to pass the ball or run the ball under the right circumstances. In general, run when the box is light and pass when it is heavy! Why is this so complicated to fans and some coaches?

when you give zeke a mere 5 carries in the 2nd half while the game is still within scoring reach, ...that's abandoning the run.
You cannot run more efficiently off just a mere 5 carries for an entire 2nd half.

 

[Chrispierce]

I was going through our season stats like I do each end of year...STs is the one area I notice being a major cause for losses just on the numbers alone. The opponent had the advantage all over that category. I’d say a overhaul is or should be huge priority,unless they like going 90 yards while the other guy gets a more reasonable starting point to help you lose winnable games.

 

[LocimusPrime]

I want an offensive that can score more than the opponents offense.

That’s all

 

[CowboyRoy]

Points allowed were 321, divided by 16, gives you 20.06 points allowed per game, 10th in the league. Not the problem.

Look at the 8 losses.

New Orleans 12 points, offense was problem.

Green Bay 34 points, defense was problem.

NYJ 24, NY scored 21 in 1st half and 3 points in 2nd half. Offense was the problem.

Minnesota 28 points, defense gives up 14 in 1st quarter and 14 the rest of the game. Offense had a chance to win it late, but couldn't make a play. Good game no ones fault.

New England 13 points, 10 off turnovers. Enough said.

Buffalo 26 points, 13 in both halves. The offense went 51 minutes in between scores. Offense was problem.

Chicago 31 points, defense was problem.

Philadelphia 17 points, offense doesn't score a TD. Offense is problem.

So in 8 losses the offense was responsible for losing 5 games and the defense 2 games, one no fault. On the flip side in wins the defense only messed up once, against Detroit.

But the take by some is the defense is the problem and not the offense. Look at each game over the course of the year and you'll see differently.

Defense is the problem along with coaching and special teams. Nothing u say can change that.

 

[12+88=7]

Defense is the problem along with coaching and special teams. Nothing u say can change that.

In 16 games the defense played poorly in THREE games. If the offense had played poorly in just three games, Dallas would have won 10 games, won the division and made the playoffs.

In 2019 the offense was the problem!!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

In 16 games the defense played poorly in THREE games. If the offense had played poorly in just three games, Dallas would have won 10 games, won the division and made the playoffs.

In 2019 the offense was the problem!!!

#1 offense in the nfl genius.

defense was 25th in the nfl at causing turnovers. They were horrid.

Had to drive 80 yards for every score. How many missed field goals.
Give it a rest. You sound silly.

 

[GORICO]

As we all wait on the decision regrading Garrett, whom I think will ultimately be gone by week's end, how do we fix this so called talented roster:

1) Tweak the offense - play calling still remains an issue, especially with a green OC abandoning the run so often. A Head Coach playing far too conservative. The offense didn't struggle moving the ball, but had it's difficulties finishing drives. They couldn't get out of their way at times, too many mental mistakes. Certainly, doesn't help when their FG kicker destroyed momentum on a weekly basis. We have seen Dak make improvement, but still had his struggles against the better defenses around the league. The arrow is pointing in the right direction, better coaching, more development with our QB, the offense isn't far away.

2) The defense and special teams are the team's biggest weaknesses. Team needs a new punter, hopefully they have found a long-term answer at kicker. The return and cover units are among the league worst. No, we don't want to see another special teams draft, but why not target some veteran fa's to bolster the unit. Tony Pollard was an electric returner in college, we have to find a way to turn him into a weapon/

3) The defense or lack thereof. Team struggles defending the run, has no idea how to deal with a simple screen pass, among the league worst to creating defensive turnovers for over a decade. The defensive gameplan isn't game specific, every team knows what we are doing. The worst QB's around the league have looked elite against us. We all know a complete overhaul for the coaching side is needed, but plain and simple, there aren't enough good player on this side of the football. Is there one starter that you can say is pro bowl level? Perhaps DLaw, maybe Lve, down the line if healthy, that's it. The rest are all overrated. The team has to rebuild the defense period!

i agree

 

[GORICO]

#1 offense in the nfl genius.

defense was 25th in the nfl at causing turnovers. They were horrid.

Had to drive 80 yards for every score. How many missed field goals.
Give it a rest. You sound silly.

the Marinelli /Richarrd experiment needs the axe soon

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

as far as special teams, we need a STUD special teams guru to come in and fix this mess. We lacked fundamentals...heck..seemed very unprepared.

Well yea, because the guy who was assigned as coach of special teams had no idea what he was doing, had no experience coaching said unit. How he got the job or why he was hired to run that unit is anyones guess.

 

[Jake]

For all of the complaining about the defense, most games were lost by the offense’s inability to score in the red zone. There was a lot of games when the defense held the opposing offense to reasonably low scores, but the inconsistency of the offense could not take advantage.

The Cowboys offense was 4th in points per drive despite having the worst starting field position in the NFL, not to mention Maher missing 10 field goals.

The defense was 14th in points allowed per drive and 15th in yards allowed per drive. Toss in the worst net punting and you get the worst starting field position.

Your conclusion contradicts the facts at hand.

 

[CowboyRoy]

the Marinelli /Richarrd experiment needs the axe soon

Garrett is FINALLY gone for good. Cant believe the day is finally here!!!!

I think they are all gone to be honest. clean house.

 

[GORICO]

Garrett is FINALLY gone for good. Cant believe the day is finally here!!!!

I think they are all gone to be honest. clean house.

Roy--still no confirmation on Garrett and its Friday....Jerry better have a really good explanation...i think this borders on abuse

 

[CowboyRoy]

Roy--still no confirmation on Garrett and its Friday....Jerry better have a really good explanation...i think this borders on abuse

its been announced nationally. I don't care if jerry hasn't gotten up and confirmed it. Has he denied it? Equally as confirmation.

 

[12+88=7]

#1 offense in the nfl genius.

defense was 25th in the nfl at causing turnovers. They were horrid.

Had to drive 80 yards for every score. How many missed field goals.
Give it a rest. You sound silly.

That's your problem. You need to get past the stats and look deeper into each game and the situations that decide games.

The Dallas offense ran up the numbers when the moments meant very little or nothing. Every single instance that the offense was needed make game changing plays in the most important games of the year they failed. Imagine an offense going all year without making a clutch play.

If the offense had made plays when the games were on the line, Dallas would have won the division easily. The root cause of Dallas failing this year was the offense.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's your problem. You need to get past the stats and look deeper into each game and the situations that decide games.

The Dallas offense ran up the numbers when the moments meant very little or nothing. Every single instance that the offense was needed make game changing plays in the most important games of the year they failed. Imagine an offense going all year without making a clutch play.

If the offense had made plays when the games were on the line, Dallas would have won the division easily. The root cause of Dallas failing this year was the offense.

Nope..........you just blame the wrong side of the ball because you are biased and hate Dak.

The defense, special teams, and coaching are far and away the biggest issues.

Educate yourself a little bit and read the internet. Go to any Cowboys site you want and its all about the defense being the biggest issue. But again, your just another troll with an agenda.

 

[12+88=7]

Nope..........you just blame the wrong side of the ball because you are biased and hate Dak.

The defense, special teams, and coaching are far and away the biggest issues.

Educate yourself a little bit and read the internet. Go to any Cowboys site you want and its all about the defense being the biggest issue. But again, your just another troll with an agenda.

I haven't mentioned Prescott or any player in any of my post. I say offense because at one time or another they all failed in different games. The OL, RBs, WRs, and yes, the QB. This is over the course of the season.

I have seen and gone through each individual game and broke it down in a previous post. The great offense that you tout were actually frauds. The last two games are classic examples of the 2019 Dallas offense.

Week 16 with the season on the line they score no TDs. Week 17 with nothing on the line against an inferior opponent they score the most points of the year. Rah, rah, look at the mighty offense.

You say I'm biased but you should look in the mirror. You are the biggest Prescott supporter on this board. For you to admit about the fault of the offense leading to the failure of the team would mean you would be saying something blasphemous against your God Prescott.

I don't have a dog in the fight and I'm able to call them as they are. The fact is the offense was a bigger contributor to Dallas underachieving this year than the defense. Look at the 8 losses, that's where the evidence is.