Video: What Rodgers looked like before Mike McCarthy

[mattjames2010]

The current talking point from contrarians right now is that McCarthy road the coattails of Rodgers. Let's forget the fact that he revived Favre's dying career and gave him a second wind, and go straight to Rodgers. Rodgers was a first round talent that almost slipped to the second round due to some mechanics and attitude issues. Not only did McCarthy keep Rodgers ego in check for nearly a decade, he pretty much rebuilt Rodgers into the QB he is today. Check out Rodgers' rookie preseason highlights, this is not franchise level QB stuff and you can see why he slipped. Held the ball too high, slow release, even some bad footwork.

At the very least, what you'll get from McCarthy is that he'll get the best out of Dak Prescott. You can bet on this. However Prescott plays under McCarthy will be his ceiling. If you're a huge Dak fan, the #1 priority right now would be getting Prescott to become a franchise QB and we brought in the best coach on the market for this.

 

[CPanther95]

Hopefully he won't mold Dak into a tool also .

 

[mattjames2010]

Hopefully he won't mold Dak into a tool also .

Rodgers was like that in college as well. Rodgers will eventually place blame on his new HC if things go south as well.

Ego too big to admit his own faults.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I actually think that Dak will be better than Rodgers. Hear me out. Yes, Rodgers is a great QB. But he's a humongous jerk and seems uncoachable. Dak is young, seems humble, and seems very coachable. If he can mold himself to McCarthy's ideas and learn the WCO with how McCarthy will teach it, I think he will become a great QB. I think McCarthy's style of WCO (similar to that of Andy Reid) will be perfect for Dak. I think he'll adjust his offense to fit Dak and Zeke, and I think this will lead to Dak becoming better than Rodgers, as long as Dak stays humble and coachable. Jerry Jones just gave him a huge gift. Will Dak take advantage of it?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The current talking point from contrarians right now is that McCarthy road the coattails of Rodgers. Let's forget the fact that he revived Favre's dying career and gave him a second wind, and go straight to Rodgers. Rodgers was a first round talent that almost slipped to the second round due to some mechanics and attitude issues. Not only did McCarthy keep Rodgers ego in check for nearly a decade, he pretty much rebuilt Rodgers into the QB he is today. Check out Rodgers' rookie preseason highlights, this is not franchise level QB stuff and you can see why he slipped. Held the ball too high, slow release, even some bad footwork.

At the very least, what you'll get from McCarthy is that he'll get the best out of Dak Prescott. You can bet on this. However Prescott plays under McCarthy will be his ceiling. If you're a huge Dak fan, the #1 priority right now would be getting Prescott to become a franchise QB and we brought in the best coach on the market for this.

Rodgers didn't start until his third season under McCarthy. Anyone who has any notion of what coaches do understands that McCarty developed Rodgers.

 

[Jake]

So a QB improved from what he looked like in preseason as a rookie? Wow. I'm pretty sure this is the first time that's ever happened.

Again, the reaching to convince yourselves of McCarthy's greatness continues.

None of this matters. What matters is how he does in Dallas. Time will tell.

 

[superonyx]

People look at the Packers win loss record before and after McCarthy as evidence while crediting Rodgers for carrying him.
If you look at just Rodgers this year vs last then you would see Rodgers was worse this year without McCarthy.

The packers finally added some defense to their team this off season.

I will say that at no point in the McCarthy's packers years did he have a weapon of Zeke's caliber at the RB position.

He had a few talented WR's but once they wanted to get paid the GM let them walk and started all over.

I never thought of the Packers as an ultra talented team overall. It seems their record outpaced the talent many seasons.

Was it Rodgers finding ways to win the close games? I don't know.

 

[mattjames2010]

So a QB improved from what he looked like in preseason as a rookie? Wow. I'm pretty sure this is the first time that's ever happened.

Again, the reaching to convince yourselves of McCarthy's greatness continues.

None of this matters. What matters is how he does in Dallas. Time will tell.

Stop posting stupid crap and think.

Rodgers didn't just look bad, his mechanics were an absolute mess and part of the reason he slipped in the draft. Actually, mechanics for QBs is incredibly tough to drastically change at the NFL level, you're talking about stuff embedded in players from high school football. And no one claimed this was the first time, again, stop posting stupid crap out of contrarian takes. It's not smart, it's just trying to be different.

Maybe we should look at what he did for Favre? Or how about Rich Gannon?



And none of this matters? What the hell are you talking about? LOL a coaches resume matters, it's exactly why they get hired and how you base initial judgement....which is where we are at right now.

 

[8FOR!3]

Wow I didn't expect his throwing motion to be that ugly lol.

 

[NorTex]

If McCarthy is such a genius QB coach, how come Rodgers backup didn't excel when Rodgers was injured?

Also, I really have a hard time believing that a brand new NFL HC had the time to coach up his HOF starting QB and also coach up the backup. Usually it's the QB coach and OC that do that...

It would be awesome if McCarthy is as good as some wish but I think he's more likely to continue to underperform like he did during his last years with GB.

 

[mattjames2010]

If McCarthy is such a genius QB coach, how come Rodgers backup didn't excel when Rodgers was injured?

Also, I really have a hard time believing that a brand new NFL HC had the time to coach up his HOF starting QB and also coach up the backup. Usually it's the QB coach and OC that do that...

It would be awesome if McCarthy is as good as some wish but I think he's more likely to continue to underperform like he did during his last years with GB.

You still need talent at the QB position....

Also, Matt Flynn played pretty well under McCarthy. Rich Gannon was a backup for years, he gives credit to McCarthy for his development into a starting QB in the league. And Brett Hundley is still a backup QB in this league, it's not like he completely flopped.

And you can have a "hard time" believing anything - both Brett Favre and Rich Gannon have talked about McCarthy what they helped do

http://www.espn.com/nfl/columns/garber_greg/1474794.html

""Paul Hackett and Mike McCarthy, those two guys in particular really set my career on the path, on the right path, and really taught me how to break down film and analyze opponents and look for keys. That was really the starting point for me."

 

[beware_d-ware]

Look at it this way. Tony Romo went from UDFA to stud when Jason Garrett was his OC, and Dak now looks a lot better in year 4 than he did in year 1 with Jason Garrett as his head coach. Does that mean that JG is a QB guru?

 

[mattjames2010]

Look at it this way. Tony Romo went from UDFA to stud when Jason Garrett was his OC, and Dak now looks a lot better in year 4 than he did in year 1 with Jason Garrett as his head coach. Does that mean that JG is a QB guru?

What the hell are you talking about? Tony Romo's development from UNDFA to starter happened under Parcells lol

And again, can some of you actually use your brain and do research? I think having the development of Rich Gannon and Aaron Rodgers, along with getting Brett Favre's career back on track is a little better resume than Wade and Jason taking over Parcell's team.

 

[beware_d-ware]

What the hell are you talking about? Tony Romo's development from UNDFA to starter happened under Parcells lol

And again, can some of you actually use your brain and do research? I think having the development of Rich Gannon and Aaron Rodgers, along with getting Brett Favre's career back on track is a little better resume than Wade and Jason taking over Parcell's team.

Romo took over in '07. Jason Garrett was the OC from 2007 to 2009. Maybe he helped develop Romo?

Really, it makes just about as much sense as what you're proposing. Favre was a HOFer before McCarthy ever got there, and Rodgers was buried for years just like Romo was.

 

[mattjames2010]

Romo took over in '07. Jason Garrett was the OC from 2007 to 2009. Maybe he helped develop Romo?

Really, it makes just about as much sense as what you're proposing.

Romo took over in 2006, genius. You don't even know Cowboys' history.

Anyone else going to post dumb crap? Just get it all out so I can counter it and send you packing.

 

[Zekeats]

Looks like Dak

 

[beware_d-ware]

Romo took over in 2006, genius. You don't even know Cowboys' history.

Anyone else going to post dumb crap? Just get it all out so I can counter it and send you packing.

You're really offering nothing better than correlation = causation. Favre improved and Rodgers develped while McCarthy is there, so McCarthy must have caused that.

The reality was,Favre was a stud before McCarthy ever got there, he had nothing to do with #4's talent. Then Rodgers was developed so well by McCarthy that he began ignoring him and freelancing his own plays just to keep the offense moving. The way I'm looking at it, McCarthy just lucked into two HOF quarterbacks and hung along for the ride.

This is the last I have to say about the subject.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So a QB improved from what he looked like in preseason as a rookie? Wow. I'm pretty sure this is the first time that's ever happened.

Again, the reaching to convince yourselves of McCarthy's greatness continues.

None of this matters. What matters is how he does in Dallas. Time will tell.

You talk like QBs with garbage lower body mechanics commonly develop into an elite level.

McCarthy took a guy that had no idea how to drop back or use his legs in his throws and coached him to an elite technical level.

That is not a reach but objective fact that anyone can see from watching the OP's video.

 

[mattjames2010]

You're really offering nothing better than correlation = causation. Favre improved and Rodgers develped while McCarthy is there, so McCarthy must have caused that.

The reality was,Favre was a stud before McCarthy ever got there, he had nothing to do with #4's talent. Then Rodgers was developed so well by McCarthy that he began ignoring him and freelancing his own plays just to keep the offense moving. The way I'm looking at it, McCarthy just lucked into two HOF quarterbacks and hung along for the ride.

This is the last I have to say about the subject.

Offering nothing but correlation lol Bro, I have quotes from NFL greats. I have already posted a link to Rich Gannon outright stating McCarthy was part of the reason he became what he did, along with Brett Favre stating McCarthy came in and brought everything back to basics for Favre and brought the fun back to football for him after Holgrem and others lol

http://www.espn.com/nfl/columns/garber_greg/1474794.html

""Paul Hackett and Mike McCarthy, those two guys in particular really set my career on the path, on the right path, and really taught me how to break down film and analyze opponents and look for keys. That was really the starting point for me."

> The reality was,Favre was a stud before McCarthy ever got there

Favre was looking washed up before McCarthy came. Again, Favre has already spoken about this and how McCarthy came in and changed the culture and brought things back to basics for Favre to the point Favre thought McCarthy should have been coach of the year in 2007 lol

Yeah, you might as well bow out. You didn't make yourself look good here. Hit the road.

 

[beware_d-ware]

You talk like QBs with garbage lower body mechanics commonly develop into an elite level.

McCarthy took a guy that had no idea how to drop back or use his legs in his throws and coached him to an elite technical level.

That is not a reach but objective fact that anyone can see from watching the OP's video.

Was that McCarthy though?

I'm a Texas A&M fan, and it reminds me of the time when people thought Kevin Sumlin was a QB guru because he developed Case Keenum at Houston and Johnny Manziel at TAMU into two of the most productive college quarterbacks in history. Turns out it was all his OC, Kliff Kingsbury. Kingsbury has continued to develop great QBs while Sumlin has washed out.