How I think Mike McCarthy Impacts Dak Prescott

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I know there are a lot of naysayers about Dak Prescott, and he had his struggles last year. However, I do not think he was the main problem last year. We had too many players playing as individuals, and I think the team just gave up on Garrett. McCarthy is a fresh voice to them, and fresh inspiration. Now, with that out the way, here's my take, and laugh at me how you will, but I will make a rather bold statement here.

I think Dak Prescott will be better than Aaron Rodgers because of this hire. I know. I know. A lot of you are going to have a go at me for this. However, let me explain my position.

In the first place, as good as Aaron Rodgers is, he is an absolute egotistical maniac who strikes me as uncoachable. He's got a massive ego, and he seems like he's incredibly difficult to get along with. I can't imagine how difficult he must be to coach from an ego standpoint, as good as he is. Dak Prescott, on the other hand, seems like a rather humble chap who seems like he'd take very strongly to coaching.

In the second place, Mike McCarthy is a WCO chap. I strongly believe that this fits Dak's style. If you noticed early on, he would check down often to his playmakers. This got him the reputation of being a "Check Down Charlie" as I recall. The nice thing about the WCO-style that McCarthy likes is that it allows him to quickly get the ball out and to his playmakers. This would help Dak to 1. not take so many hits/sacks and 2. get Cooper, Gallup, and Zeke the ball in space. This allows them to really have a good scamper against opposing defences. This leads me to my third place point.

In the third place, I think the combination of the coaching that Dak will receive and the style of coaching that McCarthy will bring will be able to allow Dak to do what he does best. Thus, I strongly think that the Dak we will see this year will be remarkably different to the Dak we have seen before this season. As Dak progresses in the McCarthy system, I think his success will become greater than that of Rodgers. Thus, I think he will end up being regarded as better than Rodgers.

A bit bold? Maybe. But that's my take on this. I truly love that we finally have a WCO that can take advantage of what Dak does well. This is what I've been BEGGING for. I initially wanted a Reid chap, but I think McCarthy will be better.
 

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As long as McCarthy can get us from 9 points to 17+ points when our offense isn’t playing good or getting shut down that’s a win for us and would’ve added 2 more wins to our record. Add that in with two more of JGs patent yearly losses and this team goes from 8-8 to 12-4
 

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How does McCarthy solve Dak's accuracy problems? Kitna helped Dak improve but Dak needs strong teammates to make him look good rather than Dak making the wide receivers look great.

Dak is a great guy in the locker room by all reports. A good leader. He is durable and tough. He runs the ball. He makes pretty good reads and makes good decisions with the ball.

Dak's problem is that he isn't accurate. He can't make the throws that Rodgers did in his prime. Even when he completes passes, they are frequently behind, above or at the feet of receivers. That leads to more drops, lost YAC and some interceptions.

I'm not sure how MM fixes that.

I do think that Dak can have better numbers with a better coach. Playing with a lead or a short field due to better defense, better special teams and a few takeaways is going to make anyone look better. In the right situation, I think Dak could win a super bowl. Improve Dak though? That's pretty much on Dak.
 

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How does McCarthy solve Dak's accuracy problems? Kitna helped Dak improve but Dak needs strong teammates to make him look good rather than Dak making the wide receivers look great.

I think he will help Dak's accuracy by calling plays that are quick. I think the WCO that McCarthy has will be very useful for this.
 

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Dak is a great guy in the locker room by all reports. A good leader. He is durable and tough. He runs the ball. He makes pretty good reads and makes good decisions with the ball.

Dak's problem is that he isn't accurate. He can't make the throws that Rodgers did in his prime. Even when he completes passes, they are frequently behind, above or at the feet of receivers. That leads to more drops, lost YAC and some interceptions.

I'm not sure how MM fixes that.

I do think that Dak can have better numbers with a better coach. Playing with a lead or a short field due to better defense, better special teams and a few takeaways is going to make anyone look better. In the right situation, I think Dak could win a super bowl. Improve Dak though? That's pretty much on Dak.

I see that with the accuracy. But I think that will be a side benefit of the WCO. The routes called will be helpful to Dak.
 

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I think Dak can be an accurate passer. Will he be as accurate as Rodgers? Maybe not. But, in terms of sheer ability and his ability to be coached, I think overall he will end up being able to at the very least stack up to Rodgers. Keep in mind, he held his own extremely well with Aaron Rodgers in 2016 as a rookie. He was down 21 nil, and damn near came back and beat him. I think, with the coaching that McCarthy can provide, that Dak will be able to go toe to toe with Rodgers and beat him often. I think he'll end up being able to outduel him and show he can be better than Rodgers. And I think he'll be able to win a Super Bowl under McCarthy.
 

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I think he will help Dak's accuracy by calling plays that are quick. I think the WCO that McCarthy has will be very useful for this.

This has been discussed in a few different threads but I'm not seeing this.

How many slants and short to medium crosses have we seen Dak throw late/behind/etc?
It happens a lot.

Those are exactly the throws that you need to be able to make quickly, decisively, and accurately for the WCO to run effectively.
I love the optimism but I don't think the WCO fits Dak's skill set at all. After 4 years he still has an issue being late on reads and accurate on those precision throws once he figures out where the ball is supposed to go.

Also another point you made in your original post--the humility angle?
How many "humble chaps" bet on themselves by passing on a $30 million a year offer?

Dak seems to think pretty highly of himself. That's not a slam necessarily. Just an honest observation.
 

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This has been discussed in a few different threads but I'm not seeing this.

How many slants and short to medium crosses have we seen Dak throw late/behind/etc?
It happens a lot.

Those are exactly the throws that you need to be able to make quickly, decisively, and accurately for the WCO to run effectively.
I love the optimism but I don't think the WCO fits Dak's skill set at all. After 4 years he still has an issue being late on reads and accurate on those precision throws once he figures out where the ball is supposed to go.

Also another point you made in your original post--the humility angle?
How many "humble chaps" bet on themselves by passing on a $30 million a year offer?

Dak seems to think pretty highly of himself. That's not a slam necessarily. Just an honest observation.

Well, I'd say he's significantly more humble than Rodgers, for one thing. And true. He does have the tendency to put the ball behind a bit, but I think he will be better at it with McCarthy.
 

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I think he will help Dak's accuracy by calling plays that are quick. I think the WCO that McCarthy has will be very useful for this.

And thats some exactly my hope. What’s notable is that Rodgers, during his best years actually ran more than Dakota has. Not a lot more, but enough to show that the rush can be included in Dak’s playcalling or as an ad lib play. I agree that the accuracy as to improve, especially with the slant, and for those who say it can’t be fixed , next season will show improvement or not. WCO, although new to him, should be something he can learn as he will put the time in to learn it

I still maintain that he’s not elite and doesn’t deserve 25% of the teams salary, BUT, I want to see if McCarthy can get more out of him than Garrett did AND convert that to wins
 

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Well, I'd say he's significantly more humble than Rodgers, for one thing. And true. He does have the tendency to put the ball behind a bit, but I think he will be better at it with McCarthy.

As I said I like your optimism and I hope you are right....
 

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And thats some exactly my hope. What’s notable is that Rodgers, during his best years actually ran more than Dakota has. Not a lot more, but enough to show that the rush can be included in Dak’s playcalling or as an ad lib play. I agree that the accuracy as to improve, especially with the slant, and for those who say it can’t be fixed , next season will show improvement or not. WCO, although new to him, should be something he can learn as he will put the time in to learn it

I still maintain that he’s not elite and doesn’t deserve 25% of the teams salary, BUT, I want to see if McCarthy can get more out of him than Garrett did AND convert that to wins

I think McCarthy very much can get more out of Dak IF Dak puts in the time and effort to learn how to use the WCO. I think Dak's running ability here will be key as well. As you correctly point out, Rodgers ran quite a bit in his best years. Thus, the defences were frozen because of a concern for if Rodgers would run it. I think Dak is a better runner than Rodgers is. Thus, this advantage shifts more to Dak. If Dak can use his mobility more with McCarthy, then that will open up more options for the WRs and Zeke. Thus, Dak can be more effective. I think this is also a key to the WCO is having a QB that can scramble, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if Dak is elite, but I think he's a very good QB. And I think coaching can help him move to the elite tier. That's where I find it so difficult to judge if Dak is elite or not. How do I judge someone when they were coached by Jason Garrett? I think we can at least all agree that McCarthy is twice the coach Garrett could ever be. He's won a Super Bowl and has been to several NFC Finals. So, I think now we'll have a better chance of evaluating Dak. Just a pity we strapped him down to Garrett for so long.
 

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Additionally, we are assuming that the WCO will definitely be implemented. If he’s keeping Kellen and he’s believes that the offense isn’t broke we may see the same as before or a hybrid of both offenses. We really are speculating and perhaps McCarthy has other plans
 

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I know there are a lot of naysayers about Dak Prescott, and he had his struggles last year. However, I do not think he was the main problem last year. We had too many players playing as individuals, and I think the team just gave up on Garrett. McCarthy is a fresh voice to them, and fresh inspiration. Now, with that out the way, here's my take, and laugh at me how you will, but I will make a rather bold statement here.

I think Dak Prescott will be better than Aaron Rodgers because of this hire. I know. I know. A lot of you are going to have a go at me for this. However, let me explain my position.

In the first place, as good as Aaron Rodgers is, he is an absolute egotistical maniac who strikes me as uncoachable. He's got a massive ego, and he seems like he's incredibly difficult to get along with. I can't imagine how difficult he must be to coach from an ego standpoint, as good as he is. Dak Prescott, on the other hand, seems like a rather humble chap who seems like he'd take very strongly to coaching.

In the second place, Mike McCarthy is a WCO chap. I strongly believe that this fits Dak's style. If you noticed early on, he would check down often to his playmakers. This got him the reputation of being a "Check Down Charlie" as I recall. The nice thing about the WCO-style that McCarthy likes is that it allows him to quickly get the ball out and to his playmakers. This would help Dak to 1. not take so many hits/sacks and 2. get Cooper, Gallup, and Zeke the ball in space. This allows them to really have a good scamper against opposing defences. This leads me to my third place point.

In the third place, I think the combination of the coaching that Dak will receive and the style of coaching that McCarthy will bring will be able to allow Dak to do what he does best. Thus, I strongly think that the Dak we will see this year will be remarkably different to the Dak we have seen before this season. As Dak progresses in the McCarthy system, I think his success will become greater than that of Rodgers. Thus, I think he will end up being regarded as better than Rodgers.

A bit bold? Maybe. But that's my take on this. I truly love that we finally have a WCO that can take advantage of what Dak does well. This is what I've been BEGGING for. I initially wanted a Reid chap, but I think McCarthy will be better.
Good post! Really like the fact that McCarthy is going to want Dak to get the ball out of his hands quickly.
 

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This has been discussed in a few different threads but I'm not seeing this.

How many slants and short to medium crosses have we seen Dak throw late/behind/etc?
It happens a lot.

Those are exactly the throws that you need to be able to make quickly, decisively, and accurately for the WCO to run effectively.
I love the optimism but I don't think the WCO fits Dak's skill set at all. After 4 years he still has an issue being late on reads and accurate on those precision throws once he figures out where the ball is supposed to go.

Also another point you made in your original post--the humility angle?
How many "humble chaps" bet on themselves by passing on a $30 million a year offer?

Dak seems to think pretty highly of himself. That's not a slam necessarily. Just an honest observation.
I do not think he thinks as highly of himself as he is confident, that was instilled in him by his Mom when he couldn't beat out the QB1 in high school and college. He was taught to always believe in himself and to not do that is a tarnish on the memory of his Mom. This is a lady that called his HS coach and told him he was playing her son wrong. He laughed when he told the story and then said "she was right".

The money thing is a mystery because we don't know the facts but most of what I'd read was that it was not about the money but the length of the contract. It seems that they were trying to keep themselves out of the QB sweepstakes in 3 or 4 years. His agent told him about all of these deals QB's have now that they're regretting. Wilson just got 35M, what do we think Mahomes is going to get and then Watson and Jackson? It wasn't that long ago that we were upset that Romo was getting 19M, the QB salary will have doubled from his last contract. It is increasing disproportionately to the cap. He is following the advice of his agent, as he should. Garappolo and Cousins are in at 27.5 and 28M and that's starting to look like a bargain comparatively speaking.
 
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