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I don't think it would be good for a new coach to come in and say to the QB that will most likely get a long term contract that he sucks.

But as I said, if Dak doesn't take the next step under McCarthy, that means he hit his ceiling. I would HOPE that Dak only gets a franchise tag to see how he does with McCarthy. If he doesn't improve, then we move on. It's the most sensible thing here.
Hit his ceiling with the 2nd most yards in the league and 4th highest QBR. Of the top 5 passers in yards this year the next closest was 14th in QBR. How are we going to be able to live with that!?
 

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Well you got me there. The stats prove I am right, people who understand the game and situational football, also know I am correct.

(sigh) Another "stat wh**e". I have watched this team for many years. I have seen the great, the good and the trash. Dak is a stud, a real athlete, HOWEVER, his passing skills are, well let's say, poor. He is consistently late and behind open receivers, especially on the favored slant pattern. Many of his deep passes are short of the preferred spot and receivers who have open field in front of them have to slow down and I have seen them have to STOP in order to catch the pass.
Now, going back to your statement that when this team passes early they win and when they run early they loose, I would tell you that what I have seen is when this team played a competent NFL defense that understood that Dak is the limitation of the team and took Zeke away (regardless of Qtr) and forced the Cowboys to use Daks arm as the primary weapon (more than 30 throws) they (the Cowboys) lost. Dak still got his yards due to the difference in defenses being played when the score is out of reach or when the opponent is just laying back keeping everything in front of them.

Can this team win with Dak at QB? No doubt, but they have to play a new kind of offense. It has to be centered on the run with mostly short, quick passes and the occasional mid range pass and near zero deep passes.

As for "understanding the game and situational football", my question is, when did you learn that phrase?
 

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Calling all Dak Hater's PLEASE talk some sense into this Superbowl winning coach!
Lol, yeah Dak equals Favre and Rodgers. It’s actually quite remarkable he only has one Super Bowl with those guys.
 

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(sigh) Another "stat wh**e". I have watched this team for many years. I have seen the great, the good and the trash. Dak is a stud, a real athlete, HOWEVER, his passing skills are, well let's say, poor. He is consistently late and behind open receivers, especially on the favored slant pattern. Many of his deep passes are short of the preferred spot and receivers who have open field in front of them have to slow down and I have seen them have to STOP in order to catch the pass.
Now, going back to your statement that when this team passes early they win and when they run early they loose, I would tell you that what I have seen is when this team played a competent NFL defense that understood that Dak is the limitation of the team and took Zeke away (regardless of Qtr) and forced the Cowboys to use Daks arm as the primary weapon (more than 30 throws) they (the Cowboys) lost. Dak still got his yards due to the difference in defenses being played when the score is out of reach or when the opponent is just laying back keeping everything in front of them.

Can this team win with Dak at QB? No doubt, but they have to play a new kind of offense. It has to be centered on the run with mostly short, quick passes and the occasional mid range pass and near zero deep passes.

As for "understanding the game and situational football", my question is, when did you learn that phrase?

Causation is a problem with you huh? You make a snide comment about stats and then you use them without the context needed to understand them. You actually made my point.

What was the common factor in those 30+ throw losses? We came out running on first down, went 3 and out, and fell behind by multiple scores. What happens when teams go down 21 points? They become one dimensional. You are blaming passing for losing, when in fact, not running effectively is why we fell behind in the first place. Oh, FYI Dak threw it 30 or more times in 6 of our 8 wins.

So now may be a good time to bow out, because you are making a complete fool out of yourself.
 

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Causation is a problem with you huh? You make a snide comment about stats and then you use them without the context needed to understand them. You actually made my point.

What was the common factor in those 30+ throw losses? We came out running on first down, went 3 and out, and fell behind by multiple scores. What happens when teams go down 21 points? They become one dimensional. You are blaming passing for losing, when in fact, not running effectively is why we fell behind in the first place. Oh, FYI Dak threw it 30 or more times in 6 of our 8 wins.

So now may be a good time to bow out, because you are making a complete fool out of yourself.

I agree, It is hard running 1st down when defense are geared to stop the run coming into the game. It was not uncommon to see defense get in to 7 and 8 in the box on early downs and then drop into coverage defense and pass rush when they had us in 2nd and 8 or 9. I like seeing us throwing on 1st putting us in a down and distance that allows us the option of run or pass.
 

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I agree, It is hard running 1st down when defense are geared to stop the run coming into the game. It was not uncommon to see defense get in to 7 and 8 in the box on early downs and then drop into coverage defense and pass rush when they had us in 2nd and 8 or 9. I like seeing us throwing on 1st putting us in a down and distance that allows us the option of run or pass.
We are at our best when we don't need to convert third downs. Passing on first means you get a first down on that play or the next a good chunk of the time, and even if you get to 3rd down it is manageable. Dak was actually amazing converting 3rd and long this year when the feed Zeke crap caused it. But these football "experts" like to blame Dak for everything.
 

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Causation is a problem with you huh? You make a snide comment about stats and then you use them without the context needed to understand them. You actually made my point.

What was the common factor in those 30+ throw losses? We came out running on first down, went 3 and out, and fell behind by multiple scores. What happens when teams go down 21 points? They become one dimensional. You are blaming passing for losing, when in fact, not running effectively is why we fell behind in the first place. Oh, FYI Dak threw it 30 or more times in 6 of our 8 wins.

So now may be a good time to bow out, because you are making a complete fool out of yourself.
actually you are both right and wrong and thats microcosm of our season =incosnistentcy..

I saw a stat the other day that Zeke actually over 16 games led the league in first half yards but fell off big in the 2nd half.. Most of that we saw first hand the last 6 games Zeke had great 1st half and the coaches forgot about him and got pass happy in NE, CHI, BUFF, and some of the rgames..thats on coaches for sure

however yes earl in the season we got behind but it was onyl because of the run game but teams linke MN and 2nd game in philly literally sold out to stop the run game and forced dak to throw a lot..he did ok in MN but he wasnt good in NE, CHI, PHILLY, BUFF, and agaisnt the rams..Dak lost his way to end the seaosn and hope he figures it out..

Now getting behind and havifg to thorw not because we couldn't run, the defense or special teams caused a lot of short fileds for the opponent but look back at GB where dak imploded his tunrovers caused us to get behind..

so really you cant point blame at any one phase or players as the season was a roller coaster where a different payer, ref, or phase of the game took turns choking..hence a perfect balance of insisitncy = 8-8
 

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We are at our best when we don't need to convert third downs. Passing on first means you get a first down on that play or the next a good chunk of the time, and even if you get to 3rd down it is manageable. Dak was actually amazing converting 3rd and long this year when the feed Zeke crap caused it. But these football "experts" like to blame Dak for everything.

I don't disagree I like seeing play action on 1st even if you pick up 6 or 7 yards, because it puts defense in doubt of run or pass. That does not mean you don't ever run on 1st down but you should mix it up enough so defense is not allowed to dictate. You get up to the LS and see those 7 and 8 in the box you need to get out of it once you do and defense are backed off then use the run. To me it is not one or the other it is attacking defense based on how they are lining up.
 

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It will be interesting how the QB position works out.

I think we get a veteran QB who can understand the WCO.

Having had Brett Farve and then drafting Rodgers shows MM knows QBs and what he wants.

MM probably will scrap all the half-baked Garrett plans immediately.

Keep an eye on if they bring in someone to push Dak.

He has never had that.

We will see how Dak handles it.

I was looking at QBs he might want to bring in and the "QBs for Hire" list is pretty thin.

Don't know if it was posted here or not, but its somewhere that one thing that irked Aaron is the Big Mc and Mike Nolan chose Alex Smith over Rodgers when they were both at San Francisco.

That being the case, he does know QBs. He's worked with Favre, Rodgers, Montana, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Jeff Blake, and Aaron Brooks even the lesser names put respectable numbers with him.
 

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(sigh) Another "stat wh**e". I have watched this team for many years. I have seen the great, the good and the trash. Dak is a stud, a real athlete, HOWEVER, his passing skills are, well let's say, poor. He is consistently late and behind open receivers, especially on the favored slant pattern. Many of his deep passes are short of the preferred spot and receivers who have open field in front of them have to slow down and I have seen them have to STOP in order to catch the pass.
Now, going back to your statement that when this team passes early they win and when they run early they loose, I would tell you that what I have seen is when this team played a competent NFL defense that understood that Dak is the limitation of the team and took Zeke away (regardless of Qtr) and forced the Cowboys to use Daks arm as the primary weapon (more than 30 throws) they (the Cowboys) lost. Dak still got his yards due to the difference in defenses being played when the score is out of reach or when the opponent is just laying back keeping everything in front of them.

Can this team win with Dak at QB? No doubt, but they have to play a new kind of offense. It has to be centered on the run with mostly short, quick passes and the occasional mid range pass and near zero deep passes.

As for "understanding the game and situational football", my question is, when did you learn that phrase?

Dak threw more than 30 times all but two games this year. So that’s not a metric for losses since 6 of those were wins and one of the non 30 plus games was 27.
 

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actually you are both right and wrong and thats microcosm of our season =incosnistentcy..

I saw a stat the other day that Zeke actually over 16 games led the league in first half yards but fell off big in the 2nd half.. Most of that we saw first hand the last 6 games Zeke had great 1st half and the coaches forgot about him and got pass happy in NE, CHI, BUFF, and some of the rgames..thats on coaches for sure

however yes earl in the season we got behind but it was onyl because of the run game but teams linke MN and 2nd game in philly literally sold out to stop the run game and forced dak to throw a lot..he did ok in MN but he wasnt good in NE, CHI, PHILLY, BUFF, and agaisnt the rams..Dak lost his way to end the seaosn and hope he figures it out..

Now getting behind and havifg to thorw not because we couldn't run, the defense or special teams caused a lot of short fileds for the opponent but look back at GB where dak imploded his tunrovers caused us to get behind..

so really you cant point blame at any one phase or players as the season was a roller coaster where a different payer, ref, or phase of the game took turns choking..hence a perfect balance of insisitncy = 8-8
Minnesota dared us to run, they played nickle and stopped us cold with 6 guys in the box. Dak shredded them and with the game on the line we ran and lost.
 

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I was looking at QBs he might want to bring in and the "QBs for Hire" list is pretty thin.

Don't know if it was posted here or not, but its somewhere that one thing that irked Aaron is the Big Mc and Mike Nolan chose Alex Smith over Rodgers when they were both at San Francisco.

That being the case, he does know QBs. He's worked with Favre, Rodgers, Montana, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Jeff Blake, and Aaron Brooks even the lesser names put respectable numbers with him.
He beat us at home with Matt Flynn.
 

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..I've felt from day one, Dak was the man for the job. No regrets saying bye to ROmo. But, ...but.....I also felt Dak needed a good mentor down the road. Well, he has one now.
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McCarthy will make Prescott better.
 
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