Did you guys know Romo though 09-16 won 15 games?

TheMarathonContinues

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Defensive rankings:

2009 - 2nd
2010 - 31st
2011 - 16th
2012 - 25th
2013 - 26th
2014 - 15th
Romo barely played in 2015-16.

QBs don't win games by themselves.
Oh they don’t? I was told our lack of success this season was because the quarterback couldn’t beat good teams.......
 

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By the looks of the list......seems like maybe Romo wasted some of Garrett's years too.
I ask this because Dak gets the credit for this teams lack of wins against playoff teams this year. But Dak had the same head coach as Garrett......yet....its Dak's fault?


Why are we always doing what about so and so? Why would you even suggest Romo wasted JG’s career? Anyone who blames Dak for not beating a winning team this year shouldn’t even be take seriously, Dak was the least of our worries last year.
 

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Why are we always doing what about so and so? Why would you even suggest Romo wasted JG’s career? Anyone who blames Dak for not beating a winning team this year shouldn’t even be take seriously, Dak was the least of our worries last year.
I think there’s a argument to be made. Like if Garrett had Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees would he only have one playoff win?
 

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Against winning teams?

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Does this mean anything?
Tough to say since Romo was hurt in 2010, played on messy 1 sided constructed teams 2011-2013 and finnally had a solid team in 14' only to get hurt in 15' and 16'
 

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That group was around for Romo's prime. And let's take off Rivera. Flozell, Gurode, Kosier, Davis and Colombo was a very good offensive line. Better than a lot of teams had at that time.

They were really good for one year (2007) during the regular season with Romo starting. They were a power group (except Kosier) that could maul defenses. However, near the end of that year, defenses figured out that they could beat them with speed. The Giants especially applied that to the playoff game against us and dominated our line against the pass. We had the running game going in the first half, but they adjusted to stop it and then kept getting pressure on Romo as well.

That was the beginning of the end for that group. The maulers, Davis, Gurode and Adams in particular, got exposed for their lack of quickness. Romo breaking the pinkie on his throwing hand didn't help. We were 3-0 until then.
 

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This is a team statistic being applied to the quarterback. People here act as if a quarterback is similar to a pitcher in baseball, they are not.
Even in baseball it's bad, and they have a lot more impact.
 

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Yes I do remember them being better at run blocking than passing......but I don't remember them being bad at pass blocking. Far better when Romo got in there than when Bledsoe was sitting the pocket waiting for guys to get open.


They were pretty bad. They were swish cheese against the Vikings in the Playoffs. Columbo especially. Not a single one of them were "good" pass blockers. They were road graders.
 

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The thing is, people use stats and don't understand them all the time.

Only 5 QBs had winning records versus teams over .500. That tells you how hard it is to do.
QB's record is their record. Their entire record, not some weird sub-divided thing used to drag a guy down.

I will say Romo had a lot of years to break through much like Garrett and did not.
All his fault? Absolutely not.
But pretending he would somehow have the magic formula to winning playoff games now is bizarre.
He was 2-4 in the playoffs for his entire career.
 

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They were pretty bad. They were swish cheese against the Vikings in the Playoffs. Columbo especially. Not a single one of them were "good" pass blockers. They were road graders.
Road Graders is a positive term used to describe OL play. I believe the term you are looking for is traffic cones, or turnstiles.
 

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Road Graders is a positive term used to describe OL play. I believe the term you are looking for is traffic cones, or turnstiles.
He's saying they were good run blockers, but not pass blockers.
 

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Where do you guys keep getting this stupid sabotage theory from? Wade has been fired from every stop he's been at so was he sabotaged every stop?
Theres been multiple people claiming this. Crayton and Holley come to mind. I think T.O also said it.
 

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Theres been multiple people claiming this. Crayton and Holley come to mind. I think T.O also said it.
Not the most trusted bunch. I want to hear some defensive players come out and say it because those were the ones giving up 30 points a game to Vince Young and David Garrard.
 

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It mean everyone that criticizes Dak for not beating winning teams and didn't do the same for Romo are disingenuous.

The next Argument would be about the teams Romo was surrounded by. There were absolutely times in Romos career where he carried the team. I believe a lot of his gun slinger, mistake ridden mentality was him over compensating for poor teams. In the same light there were times Romo had talent around and wasn't able to get over the hump.

With both qbs there were times we had enough talent, but in the end we couldn't make up for the coaching deficit.

Completely different teams and different rules. So many factors not taken into account e.g. Romo played with some horrible defenses including historically one of the worst in the history of the NFL. His best o-line was in 2014 which Prescott has enjoyed throughout his tenure.

My gripe with Prescott was that last season someone like Brian Hoyer would have won the same eight games. Prescott was unable to carry the team and win any games over an entire season. He only had to do it once for us to win the division and make the play offs. He had more than enough talent around him and I'm not allowing the coaches to be blamed for every single loss - were they responsible for continually missing wide open receivers?

He wants to be paid like a QB that can carry a team to a few wins...well over an entire season he didn't do that.

If people are unable to understand such a basic point then God help you in life generally.
 
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