Did you guys know Romo though 09-16 won 15 games?

[Galian Beast]

Road Graders is a positive term used to describe OL play. I believe the term you are looking for is traffic cones, or turnstiles.

They were very good at run blocking, they were in fact road graders. They weren't pass blockers though.

 

[Runwildboys]

Why are you people so upset with Dak, while praising Romo for almost mirrored performances? What’s really behind the angst?

It doesn't seem like he's upset with Dak, just upset with the people who overvalue his ability.

 

[Galian Beast]

Let's play a game.

Let's add up the relative rankings for Romo's rush offenses and defenses (ppg)

Now let's do the same for Dak Prescott...

 

[starfan1]

Let's play a game.

Let's add up the relative rankings for Romo's rush offenses and defenses (ppg)

Now let's do the same for Dak Prescott...

how about lets not and say we did. How about we stop with the comparisons and double standards as they are 2 different Qb's. If you want to compare something how about looking at the similarities like they both played under an inept coaching staff and GM

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

how about lets not and say we did. How about we stop with the comparisons and double standards as they are 2 different Qb's. If you want to compare something how about looking at the similarities like they both played under an inept coaching staff and GM

There we go! Let’s start with that. Let’s start with the fact we don’t have defenses or special teams to help our offense out by putting them in good field position.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Let's play a game.

Let's add up the relative rankings for Romo's rush offenses and defenses (ppg)

Now let's do the same for Dak Prescott...

Irrelevant to the discussion.

 

[Hennessy_King]

What the????? Dak didn’t come in with The Tuna as his head coach. Dak didn’t have Witten and TO in their primes. What are you talking about? The only thing you could give Dak the nod with is Zeke. But Marion Barber and Murray weren’t far behind in terms of production. You people need to stop. It’s sickening.
I was on board with you until you inserted the “Tean Dak inherited” bs. That’s just another way to belittle Dak.

Romo also got to learn under Sean Payton as well. With a hall of famer in his prime as well in Demarcus Ware. This romo didn't have talent around him is the stupidest narrative on this board. His O line had 3 pro bowlers on it as well.

 

[gimmesix]

Of course not, a lot of it is because of great coaching but all you need to do is look at the teams playing in the bowl this year. They are not overly invested in QB. Because of that, they were able to build a good team. Pats did that for years. Look at all the FAs they were able to sign. They would never have been able to do that if they were using a huge percentage of their cap on Brady. That's just the truth.

Garappolo's contract paid him $20 million this year after an initial hit of $37 million in 2018. He is set to receive $26 million in 2020. Mahomes is playing on his rookie deal, which will probably be redone this offseason making him the highest paid player in the NFL.

Although I agree that it is easier to build a team when you have your quarterback on a low-end deal, I don't believe there's evidence to say it's the key to winning a Super Bowl.

 

[DFWJC]

What’s dumb about it? I let you guys read it and come to your own conclusion about it. Not sure how it’s any dumber than the 100th thread on the “Hot Boys” or another “Dak sucks thread”.

You have a point

The concept and awkwardness of "QB wins" is even more whacky when we make it wins vs the better teams. That he even further magnifies the need for a good overall team. The exclude one the years (2007) where he actually did have good players around him....just seems odd.

But you're right, compared to some of the other threads we get, the bar is low.

 

[DFWJC]

Romo also got to learn under Sean Payton as well. With a hall of famer in his prime as well in Demarcus Ware. This romo didn't have talent around him is the stupidest narrative on this board. His O line had 3 pro bowlers on it as well.

Yeah right HK
Sean Payton was long gone when Romo became a starter and was deeply buried on the depth chart getting no practice reps during the season when he was there early on. No doubt, Sean Payton loved him and wanted to sign him when he moved to New Orleans, but come on now.

And yes, in 2014, that oline was great. 2007 was good too, though a bit overrated….especially with the Pro Bowl nonsense hype fest. But yes, there plenty of talent around Romo for 2-3 years.
Those teams were very good, btw. 2007 had good balance.
Came up short.
That team started fast, accumulated lots of pro bowl hype, then were not really so hot the last month or two of the season., Limped into the playoffs and , like I said, came up short.

 

[jrumann59]

Romo was injured for 2 season 2010, and 2015and replaced by Dak in 16. The 3 years following was the Garret "Re-build" but be competitive when the defense and OL got geriatric and need re-tooling.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Yeah right HK
Sean Payton was long gone when Romo became a starter and was deeply buried on the depth chart getting no practice reps during the season when he was there early on. No doubt, Sean Payton loved him and wanted to sign him when he moved to New Orleans, but come on now.

And yes, in 2014, that oline was great. 2007 was good too, though a bit overrated….especially with the Pro Bowl nonsense hype fest. But yes, there plenty of talent around Romo for 2-3 years.
Those teams were very good, btw. 2007 had good balance.
Came up short.
That team started fast, accumulated lots of pro bowl hype, then were not really so hot the last month or two of the season., Limped into the playoffs and , like I said, came up short.

Your reading comprehension is poor. I stated he learned from Sean Payton. He had teams that had talent and unfortunately his injuries started piling up. Tony Romo might be the most snake bit person I've seen in sports. Literally never had 1 bounce go his way. But his career is what it is.

 

[erod]

Every time I see you post/comment, I think the exact same thing

Then why am I right all the time? I predicted 7-9 this year. I'd bet you were one of those 12-4 pom-pom wavers, right?

 

[DFWJC]

Let's play a game.

Let's add up the relative rankings for Romo's rush offenses and defenses (ppg)

Now let's do the same for Dak Prescott...

Trouble maker

 

[keysersoze]

It doesn't seem like he's upset with Dak, just upset with the people who overvalue his ability.

Ok... Dak is the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. So why would a so called fan be upset at a fan for supporting Dak? What sense does that make? I’m not understanding your logic here. Unless there’s an agenda.

 

[keysersoze]

Romo also got to learn under Sean Payton as well. With a hall of famer in his prime as well in Demarcus Ware. This romo didn't have talent around him is the stupidest narrative on this board. His O line had 3 pro bowlers on it as well.

I don’t understand how these excuses are valid for Romo. But invalid for Dak. UNLESS THERE IS AN AGENDA

 

[Redball Express]

Team game.

Judge the QBs by how they play, not the results of the team. Particularly if we're looking at responsibility for the team record *compared to* the HC, who actually is responsible for the whole team.

Tony generally carried the team.

I'm not blaming Dak for this season. Dak costs us against the Eagles, but just shouldn't have been playing because of injury. Playing injured players who can't play is on the coach, not the player.

Are there any particular games we're supposed to be blaming Dak for?

The only blame I'd have is that Dak didn't use his feet enough. When he doesn't run, we lose, and at times I thought he had runs he didn't take. 4 games, <2 carries, all losses. Close games, too. Margins of 2,3,4,8. Mostly low scoring. We needed an extra edge.

Crappy conditions against NE. Low completion%. Brady couldn't do squat either. Run the damn ball. That's your edge against Brady. The poor conditions actually favored us. We've got the QB who can run.

Your part about 'running QB' has me concerned.

This shoulder injury seems to have been around since college.

So it's something to be aware of. I think the team knew about this but never made it known.

Therefore all the emphasis on shifting Dak to pocket passing more and over-use of the shotgun for Dak was all about protecting him.

I now understand this better as time has passed.

If you see what happened to Mahomes and Jackson with their injuries it just underlines things.

The WCO should help Dak.

But it's another learning curve for Dak.

He is a better, smarter player now.

We hope and we cross fingers.

This is an unproven staff now as a new group.

 

[Aviano90]

Let's play a game.

Let's add up the relative rankings for Romo's rush offenses and defenses (ppg)

Now let's do the same for Dak Prescott...

When looking at the rushing stats, can we put them in perspective? For example, if we are near the top of the league in average yards per rush, but near the bottom of the league in number of attempts it is worth noting. Not having a running game and not using the running game are 2 different things.

 

[foofighters]

Let what go foo?

Tony Romo. It's time to move on.

 

[Runwildboys]

Ok... Dak is the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. So why would a so called fan be upset at a fan for supporting Dak? What sense does that make? I’m not understanding your logic here. Unless there’s an agenda.

To the best of my knowledge, the only "agenda" is that some people don't want to hear more hype than is warranted. I'd say most people here realize Dak is a pretty good QB, but he's not as good as some people build him up to be, at least not yet.