DL coach, Tomsula talks his philosophy on rotation

[KDM256]

Oh, I paid plenty of attention last year. And yeah, he played a high % of snaps but also tapped out quite a few times as well in critical situations.

Care to elaborate on "quite a few times" in critical situations?

 

[OmerV]

I'm sorry but tired is tired. Leaving a tired guy in is not going to help the team. All he is going to do is create a situation, where the player is not signaling to the coaches that he's tired he's signaling his replacement.

He did say he would look at situations where if there is a drop off in talent the rotation may depend on the point in the game, score, position on the field etc … he didn't say players would never take a break.

 

[Hennessy_King]

My son was the same way. When you are the star of the team that’s what you do. He was that way from the first minute he stepped on the field at every level.

Yup coach he played 13-14 unlimited weight this year. goes into high school next year. Only his 3rd year playing and the coaching was atrocious. thankfully have a friend through work that works him out on the side.

 

[Teague31]

Tank might have to play more than 25% of the snaps

 

[Cannibal_Cowboy]

I think, above anyone else on the defensive line, that Trysten Hill's stellar play on the field has absolutely earned him the right to tap out any time he dang well pleases.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Tank might have to play more than 25% of the snaps

He played 60% of the snaps this year. Btw JJ watt played more snaps than him coming off a torn pectoral lol. Such a disgrace

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

He did say he would look at situations where if there is a drop off in talent the rotation may depend on the point in the game, score, position on the field etc … he didn't say players would never take a break.

He also said "If you tap your helmet, I'm turning my head." Having seen someone almost die from heat stroke, you damn right I take exception to that part. Tired is tired. And tired workers need breaks. Thats not an opinion bud, thats a FACT. You rather see a player die or take a break? Simple question.

 

[quickccc]

reading from the posted tweet, I took as Tomsula wants his 2nd line of defense to not be so bereft of talent that it's so ineffective and unproductive that it doesn't give the first front line
a chance to catch their breathe of relief when they are being spelled, or that will force that starting front to stay that much on the field and be physically spent that much more.
Other words that rotation backups need to be top quality and effective as we can get.

 

[Whyjerry]

So no more Armstrong and Hyder on 3rd and 10 in the fourth quarter with a minute to go!

Lol. Exactly. I can’t tell you how many times I yelled at the TV and said why is 92 out there???

 

[Beaker42]

Hopefully, on the offensive side of the ball, Zeke doesn't come out on key downs.

Yeah, the RB coach and OC need to turn their heads when #21 knocks on his huge dome to come out. Stay out there, fatty.

 

[OmerV]

He also said "If you tap your helmet, I'm turning my head." Having seen someone almost die from heat stroke, you damn right I take exception to that part. Tired is tired. And tired workers need breaks. Thats not an opinion bud, thats a FACT. You rather see a player die or take a break? Simple question.

I'm sure he understands the difference between asking for a breather and a player having heat stroke, plus he likely will be cognizant of very hot days. Besides, when was the last time an NFL player died from heat stroke during a game. Or even had it?

 

[Hennessy_King]

He also said "If you tap your helmet, I'm turning my head." Having seen someone almost die from heat stroke, you damn right I take exception to that part. Tired is tired. And tired workers need breaks. Thats not an opinion bud, thats a FACT. You rather see a player die or take a break? Simple question.

Top 1% athletes in the world can't play 40 snaps a game? Depends how hot it is etc. Sound like one of the team moms

 

[willia451]

This is total nonsense.

One time he was out b/c he was hurt, and this is all people remember.

Of course. People certainly don't care if Zeke was hurt. So what? ES played an entire game with a dislocated shoulder. So unfortunately for Zeke, perception is reality. You can throw all the stats out all day long and nobody will believe you. Or care.

And it's not just the tapping out. It's the holding out. And getting his money for holding out. And the perception that he came into the regular season out of shape and fat. And some of the off field issues he's had in the past.

It all adds up.

It also doesn't help that when Zeke comes out and Pollard comes in Pollard breaks a 30 yard run. Not a good look. Even if it only happens one or two times. That is what people will remember.

The good news is, redemption is right around the corner. We've got a new coaching staff, a new philosophy, and hopefully they will utilize Zeke a little better than just letting him use his body as a weapon and saying when you are tired of getting beaten down, tap out for a rest. That's a horrible idea. Because it has lead to where we are right now.

So we'll see how it goes.

 

[Tangle_Foot]

I like it, if your tired is better than his fresh you play, if not he plays. We've heard it before with injured players, his 80% is better than most guys 100%. I think it's the same when it comes to fatigue, who is better suited to make a play, " how much is the drop off"

 

[INCowboysFan]

He also said "If you tap your helmet, I'm turning my head." Having seen someone almost die from heat stroke, you damn right I take exception to that part. Tired is tired. And tired workers need breaks. Thats not an opinion bud, thats a FACT. You rather see a player die or take a break? Simple question.

Tired does not equal heat stroke. Heat-related illness is way more likely to happen during practice than in games. Having said that, NFL practices aren't what they used to be, so the risk is even lower. Scheduled water breaks, no pads, etc. it's the same in HS football now. My son's school only goes helmets when the heat index is above 95. No more two a days in the dog days of summer.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Tired does not equal heat stroke. Heat-related illness is way more likely to happen during practice than in games. Having said that, NFL practices aren't what they used to be, so the risk is even lower. Scheduled water breaks, no pads, etc. it's the same in HS football now. My son's school only goes helmets when the heat index is above 95. No more two a days in the dog days of summer.

I live in jersey so that heat is pretty rare come football time. They did have one crazy hot game this year. coach was basically rotating in like crazy and spraying them down with cold water.

 

[INCowboysFan]

I'm in southern Indiana and games at the beginning of the season are hot. Hydration is key. Sure, during HS games you sub in and out more. But in HS you don't typically have an army of trainers/doctors on the sidelines, no readily available IV's, huge cooling fans, etc. You have to be diligent in keeping an eye on the kids. But again, I've never seen somebody go down with heat stroke during a game. All reports I can remember are from practices, and there are rules in place to minimize the risk.

 

[Rockport]

He also said "If you tap your helmet, I'm turning my head." Having seen someone almost die from heat stroke, you damn right I take exception to that part. Tired is tired. And tired workers need breaks. Thats not an opinion bud, thats a FACT. You rather see a player die or take a break? Simple question.

You don’t think he would take the heat conditions in consideration? Of course he would.

 

[OmerV]

You don’t think he would take the heat conditions in consideration? Of course he would.

And, of course, the Cowboys play in a climate controlled environment. And conference games on the road are in colder weather cities. That makes at least 11 games a year in either climate controlled, or cooler weather cities, and there certainly would be others of the remaining 5 that weren't played in extremely hot conditions from September - December.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Lots go into this but to me, a starting player should play a min range of 75% snaps depending on other factors. The key is starting AND ending games with your best players on the field.

100 Million Dollar Man DLaw played like 62% of snaps. I'm a fan of rotation but that was a joke. Easy way to get more value on that contract is more snaps.