The Daklemma

[CouchCoach]

Yes, I know, not another Dak thread but this one isn't about paying him or tagging him, it is all based one person's perspective, Big Mike. He has seen first hand what a high % of the cap to the QB can do and he had Tier 1 QB's.

Whether you are a Dakster or Dakater, I think most will agree, he is not a lifter, he needs talent on the field with him as we've seen when the RB1 was missing and there was no WR1.

So if you are this HC, with his experience with QB and salaries, where is the breaking point with Prescott as his QB1? What will paying a 2nd Tier QB 1st Tier money do to his ability to build around him and the D is building around him.

It's not lost on him what they're paying the OL and RB now and he's probably watched a lot of college QB's this past season doing some scouting and evaluating.

I do not doubt he likes Prescott but how much? Does he like him Rodgers, Ryan and Wilson money?

The market has a lot to do with this but if what they do the deal now that puts him in the top 3 now but barely in the top 10 in 2022 and he's not really a top 10 QB?

It is most certainly a dilemma with a QB that you know you need to put the pieces around him but his salary prevents that except for 1st contract players.

The HC's thinking on this is one perspective. Consider the Joneses. What have they said is their biggest regret during the Romo years? Putting the pieces around him.

The other dilemma is the effect of tagging the QB. New HC in his first year and QB maybe in his final. And the assignment is to be better than 2019, the expectations with this hire are as high as they could be from the FO.

And the ultimate dilemma, what's the message tagging sends to the QB, belief or doubt? This is not his first negotiation, the called the last one off with no deal. And the rest of the offense, how do they read a tagging?

No team in the NFL is facing the textbook "damned if you do and damned if you don't" like the Cowboys are this offseason.

 

[Future]

There's no dilemma. Pay your quarterback.

 

[Bullflop]

True stuff -- the reluctance of the Dallas FO to make a decision to resolve that Daklemma is proof positive of their plight!

It's boiling down to the situation of pay your quarterback or suffer the consequences! It's either pay him or the team, it appears.

 

[Scotman]

I don't think MM has the flexibility of just starting over. Jerry isn't about to put off any chance at a potential run for any future gains. MM is better off to believe in his own ability to get the very most out of Prescott and make a run with him.

I think you'll see Dak signed. Amari signed. And I would bet you see a big name free agent or two. Future salary cap be damned. Jerry's going to fire a punt gun at this thing...this year. I think it's all or nothing for Jerry this late in his game.

 

[Risen Star]

I don't think MM has the flexibility of just starting over. Jerry isn't about to put off any chance at a potential run for any future gains. MM is better off to believe in his own ability to get the very most out of Prescott and make a run with him.

I think you'll see Dak signed. Amari signed. And I would bet you see a big name free agent or two. Future salary cap be damned. Jerry's going to fire a punt gun at this thing...this year. I think it's all or nothing for Jerry this late in his game.

You wouldn't think McCarthy has that kind of power but all bets are off if he starts throwing his weight around.

 

[CouchCoach]

I don't think MM has the flexibility of just starting over. Jerry isn't about to put off any chance at a potential run for any future gains. MM is better off to believe in his own ability to get the very most out of Prescott and make a run with him.

I think you'll see Dak signed. Amari signed. And I would bet you see a big name free agent or two. Future salary cap be damned. Jerry's going to fire a punt gun at this thing...this year. I think it's all or nothing for Jerry this late in his game.

I can see that happening as well and I couldn't fault him. I look around in the NFC and don't see anything that scares me.

The do have the ability to keep that team around him for the short haul. A lot of that depends on how honest Booger has been with himself about the talent on the team vs the coaching results. Did he really believe all that BS about his HC that he was trying to sell the media?

 

[Ranching]

Yes, I know, not another Dak thread but this one isn't about paying him or tagging him, it is all based one person's perspective, Big Mike. He has seen first hand what a high % of the cap to the QB can do and he had Tier 1 QB's.

Whether you are a Dakster or Dakater, I think most will agree, he is not a lifter, he needs talent on the field with him as we've seen when the RB1 was missing and there was no WR1.

So if you are this HC, with his experience with QB and salaries, where is the breaking point with Prescott as his QB1? What will paying a 2nd Tier QB 1st Tier money do to his ability to build around him and the D is building around him.

It's not lost on him what they're paying the OL and RB now and he's probably watched a lot of college QB's this past season doing some scouting and evaluating.

I do not doubt he likes Prescott but how much? Does he like him Rodgers, Ryan and Wilson money?

The market has a lot to do with this but if what they do the deal now that puts him in the top 3 now but barely in the top 10 in 2022 and he's not really a top 10 QB?

It is most certainly a dilemma with a QB that you know you need to put the pieces around him but his salary prevents that except for 1st contract players.

The HC's thinking on this is one perspective. Consider the Joneses. What have they said is their biggest regret during the Romo years? Putting the pieces around him.

The other dilemma is the effect of tagging the QB. New HC in his first year and QB maybe in his final. And the assignment is to be better than 2019, the expectations with this hire are as high as they could be from the FO.

And the ultimate dilemma, what's the message tagging sends to the QB, belief or doubt? This is not his first negotiation, the called the last one off with no deal. And the rest of the offense, how do they read a tagging?

No team in the NFL is facing the textbook "damned if you do and damned if you don't" like the Cowboys are this offseason.

He's gonna get paid. Move on, nothing new to see here.

 

[ShiningStar]

the only dilemma is typing the word dilemma, thats first.

second no, we dont have to do anything, what MM and crew needs to do is make the decision if they want to give Dak one more year or just cut bait now. Either way im ok. im a fan of Daks, but his playing or getting paid isnt going to pay my bills. and frankly the new coach needs to have his boy. i dont want MM saying "i had to have Dak" if he can work with dak, great, if he decides he needs to go, guess what, i ll sleep at night. what we need is a guy with a plan. i hope we have that.

 

[CouchCoach]

There's no dilemma. Pay your quarterback.

Because you are a fan of his but not everyone is on board that he's the guy or the best that they can do. I don't think they think he's the best they can do.

Whet once looked like a decision with few options doesn't look that way any longer. I've been there in business before, the longer the other party is dug in, the more you just naturally begin to explore other options mentally and realize there are always other options.

 

[Future]

Because you are a fan of his but not everyone is on board that he's the guy or the best that they can do. I don't think they think he's the best they can do.

Whet once looked like a decision with few options doesn't look that way any longer. I've been there in business before, the longer the other party is dug in, the more you just naturally begin to explore other options mentally and realize there are always other options.

What other options? You think Teddy is going to come in $10m cheaper and give you the same level of play? Going to trade for Andy Dalton?

I'm fine with the idea of exploring other options. I'm not fine with the idea that "other options" are better than Dak next year, because they're not.

This is the exact same problem that the Commanders had, and losing Cousins - a worse QB than Dak - has crippled them. They could have just signed him 4 years ago and been in great shape today.

 

[glimmerman]

Yes, I know, not another Dak thread but this one isn't about paying him or tagging him, it is all based one person's perspective, Big Mike. He has seen first hand what a high % of the cap to the QB can do and he had Tier 1 QB's.

Whether you are a Dakster or Dakater, I think most will agree, he is not a lifter, he needs talent on the field with him as we've seen when the RB1 was missing and there was no WR1.

So if you are this HC, with his experience with QB and salaries, where is the breaking point with Prescott as his QB1? What will paying a 2nd Tier QB 1st Tier money do to his ability to build around him and the D is building around him.

It's not lost on him what they're paying the OL and RB now and he's probably watched a lot of college QB's this past season doing some scouting and evaluating.

I do not doubt he likes Prescott but how much? Does he like him Rodgers, Ryan and Wilson money?

The market has a lot to do with this but if what they do the deal now that puts him in the top 3 now but barely in the top 10 in 2022 and he's not really a top 10 QB?

It is most certainly a dilemma with a QB that you know you need to put the pieces around him but his salary prevents that except for 1st contract players.

The HC's thinking on this is one perspective. Consider the Joneses. What have they said is their biggest regret during the Romo years? Putting the pieces around him.

The other dilemma is the effect of tagging the QB. New HC in his first year and QB maybe in his final. And the assignment is to be better than 2019, the expectations with this hire are as high as they could be from the FO.

And the ultimate dilemma, what's the message tagging sends to the QB, belief or doubt? This is not his first negotiation, the called the last one off with no deal. And the rest of the offense, how do they read a tagging?

No team in the NFL is facing the textbook "damned if you do and damned if you don't" like the Cowboys are this offseason.

I think the Offense will be ok. It’s the Defense and ST that needs improvement. How much we pay Dak can hurt but the way they do the contract can leave us money to resign players and look at FA. We will kick the can down the road.

 

[Scotman]

You wouldn't think McCarthy has that kind of power but all bets are off if he starts throwing his weight around.

Heavy thoughts this morning

 

[Doomsday]

To me, there is no dilemma at all. You either like the guy or you don't. There is plenty of tape on him after starting for 4 full seasons.

If you like him, pay him, otherwise move on.

 

[Scotman]

I can see that happening as well and I couldn't fault him. I look around in the NFC and don't see anything that scares me.

The do have the ability to keep that team around him for the short haul. A lot of that depends on how honest Booger has been with himself about the talent on the team vs the coaching results. Did he really believe all that BS about his HC that he was trying to sell the media?

Lots riding on MM. If he's light years better than Garrett, we literally have no idea what this team...or our QB...will look like. One thing is for sure, it removes the Garrett squad as an excuse.

 

[CouchCoach]

the only dilemma is typing the word dilemma, thats first.

second no, we dont have to do anything, what MM and crew needs to do is make the decision if they want to give Dak one more year or just cut bait now. Either way im ok. im a fan of Daks, but his playing or getting paid isnt going to pay my bills. and frankly the new coach needs to have his boy. i dont want MM saying "i had to have Dak" if he can work with dak, great, if he decides he needs to go, guess what, i ll sleep at night. what we need is a guy with a plan. i hope we have that.

If Big Mike was at that "I have to have Dak" stage, this would already be done. That's the gist of the thread, I am not sure he's all in Prescott's camp and the Joneses and McClay are going to listen to a HC who's forte is Tier 1 QB's. For all we know, the Joneses anticipated a stalemate from their previous negotiation with Prescott and Big Mike is not there for this QB but the next one.

They have a new HC. specifically a QB coach, and no deal seems imminent. The QB keeps saying he thinks a deal is getting done.

 

[Diehardblues]

While fans have doubts whether Dak is a top 10 QB worthy of a top 5 contract if our Idiot ownership and Fat Mikey have doubts behind the scenes it’s a laughable situation.

So far Jethro and Son have mismanaged it and could cast their typical dysfunction and distraction heading into a season with so much optimism and high expectations with new coaching staff.
Shocking LOL

 

[MarcusRock]

Daklemma? That's what you're going with? Did you think of that right before you hit the Post button?

Maybe "The Dakcision," but "Daklemma?" Ick.

Lol.

 

[CouchCoach]

To me, there is no dilemma at all. You either like the guy or you don't. There is plenty of tape on him after starting for 4 full seasons.

If you like him, pay him, otherwise move on.

Not a question of just liking him. I like him but at 33-35M and hamstringing this team with talent around him, I don't like him so much anymore.

That is the delimma, if I didn't like him, there would be no delimma, you are correct. It's not a question of liking him, it's how much do I like him. I like him a lot better at Cousins and Garoppolo money than Wilson and Rodgers money.

 

[Future]

While fans have doubts whether Dak is a top 10 QB worthy of a top 5 contract if our Idiot ownership and Fat Mikey have doubts behind the scenes it’s a laughable situation.

So far Jethro and Son have mismanaged it and could cast their typical dysfunction and distraction heading into a season with so much optimism and high expectations with new coaching staff.
Shocking LOL

Dak didn't want to sign. How exactly is that mismanagement?

If he signed for $40m before this season, you'd be saying they mismanaged it by overpaying.

 

[G2]

While fans have doubts whether Dak is a top 10 QB worthy of a top 5 contract if our Idiot ownership and Fat Mikey have doubts behind the scenes it’s a laughable situation.

So far Jethro and Son have mismanaged it and could cast their typical dysfunction and distraction heading into a season with so much optimism and high expectations with new coaching staff.
Shocking LOL

Maybe if Garrett handled to QBs who played at a high level a little better we would have won more than 2 first round playoff games in a decade.