Dak is better than his 8 and 8 record says he is

[jnday]

Last year Dak was 8 and 8 as the starter. Special teams and kicker cost us a game or two. Coaching cost us a game or two.

Zeke’s fumble/nonfumble cost us a game. Amari’s deflected pass cost us a game. The two phantom tripping calls on Tyron cost us a game.

Dak is an 11/12 win QB a year with a decent supporting cast. That’s top shelf year in and year out and he has upside.

Dak is only as good as the talent around him that carries him. Dak has never been able to put the team on his back and carry them like great QBs do.

 

[Rockport]

Last year Dak was 8 and 8 as the starter. Special teams and kicker cost us a game or two. Coaching cost us a game or two.

Zeke’s fumble/nonfumble cost us a game. Amari’s deflected pass cost us a game. The two phantom tripping calls on Tyron cost us a game.

Dak is an 11/12 win QB a year with a decent supporting cast. That’s top shelf year in and year out and he has upside.

Just think what the record will be with a better defense.

 

[jnday]

Please offer a lost of those games and reasons you think Dak lost them, if you'd be so kind. Then juxtapose those to games lost when Romo was under center and the entire Cowboy nation here blamed it on the defense.

I'd very much be delighted to read this treatise by you.

All of those games when he stunk it up for the first three quarters cost the team over and over.

 

[CATCH17]

Please offer a lost of those games and reasons you think Dak lost them, if you'd be so kind. Then juxtapose those to games lost when Romo was under center and the entire Cowboy nation here blamed it on the defense.

I'd very much be delighted to read this treatise by you.

The difference is Romo was trying to go win games and Dak is trying not to lose them.

Still though... Romo getting paid like he had won a Super Bowl pretty much ruined any chance we had at winning a Super Bowl because our only way to acquire good players was in the draft and the team suffered.

 

[jsb357]

Dak was also not as good as his 13-3 record in 2016.

The most hideous thing from that year is the Garrett COTY.

 

[dfense]

Last year Dak was 8 and 8 as the starter. Special teams and kicker cost us a game or two. Coaching cost us a game or two.

Zeke’s fumble/nonfumble cost us a game. Amari’s deflected pass cost us a game. The two phantom tripping calls on Tyron cost us a game.

Dak is an 11/12 win QB a year with a decent supporting cast. That’s top shelf year in and year out and he has upside.

Yup, always someone else. Got it.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I have mixed feelings about Dak. There are times I am frustrated with his play. Then again, there are other times I think he is terrific.

One aspect of Dak I believe some miss is his desire to win. Staubach was the most competitive guy wearing a star I have seen. Romo and Aikman were close. Dak has the same qualities those two have.

I do not see that in Garoppolo. When the game became serious for the 9ers, I did not see much of Garoppolo saddling up the team to win. Yet, even in games when Dak is not his best, I can see his desire to take the team to the victory.

You may discount that, but the one thing Garoppolo taught me was built a team around the less than top flight QB and you can get to the dance.

I think Dak could go on a roll and win three or four games in a row in the post season and take home the prize.

Because, outside of Mahomes, the QB that are constantly touted here as the best in the game were not in the Super Bowl.

 

[Rockport]

So none of the losses were Dak's fault? Or by your count, he's responsible for only one? Last time I checked, on the win and in game against the Eagles, the defense forced seven straight 3 and outs and Dak did nothing with the opportunities. So is that the one loss he's responsible for or is it something else?

He did nothing with a torn ligament in his throwing shoulder that he took a shot before the game and at half time for.

 

[jnday]

Just think what the record will be with a better defense.

The defense is not the reason why the offense could not out score opposing teams. There was many games that the defense held their opponents to low scoring games and Dak couldn’t even lead the offense to TDs instead of FGs which caused the losses.

 

[CATCH17]

Just think what the record will be with a better defense.

We’re about to lose one of the better corners in football because we value mediocre QB play, the RB position, and WR.

We need a lot of luck in the draft to get the defense we need.

Quality QB play for cheap, Quality coaching, and Elite defense are what win Superbowls and you need at least 2 of the 3.

 

[TwoDeep3]

The difference is Romo was trying to go win games and Dak is trying not to lose them.

Still though... Romo getting paid like he had won a Super Bowl pretty much ruined any chance we had at winning a Super Bowl because our only way to acquire good players was in the draft and the team suffered.

I do not believe that. Sorry, Catch. I just do not think his attitude is to not lose.

 

[glimmerman]

Every team who didn't win the Super Bowl has excuses. The team that won overcame those excuses won. That's what separates good from great. It separates men from boys.

Not so much as excuses as issues that weren’t addressed. Some could have been fixed by the staff. Which has been a while other issue.

 

[TwoDeep3]

All of those games when he stunk it up for the first three quarters cost the team over and over.

List them, please.

 

[CATCH17]

I do not believe that. Sorry, Catch. I just do not think his attitude is to not lose.

Look how he plays.. He’s an ultra conservative QB. We can’t even get him to run for easy first downs sometimes.

Yeah he’ll air it out on some bad teams and inflate his stats but where is he when we play the saints, Bills, Patriots, @ Eagles?

 

[blueblood70]

Last year Dak was 8 and 8 as the starter. Special teams and kicker cost us a game or two. Coaching cost us a game or two.

Zeke’s fumble/nonfumble cost us a game. Amari’s deflected pass cost us a game. The two phantom tripping calls on Tyron cost us a game.

Dak is an 11/12 win QB a year with a decent supporting cast. That’s top shelf year in and year out and he has upside.

stop it the fact is he couldnt will us to one win in those 5 game stretch against NE, CHI, BUFF, and Philly..not one..

Mahomes was handed deficits of 24. 17, and 10 and in ALL those playoff games in big situations he brought them back. IN THE PLAYOFFS.

no excuses about the team around him was failing.. Great QBs can will a team to a few wins they had no chance winning.. Dak wasn't the only reason we were 8-8 but he is the reason we arent 9-7 10-6 Yes he couldn't be great when we needed him..

Hes good NOT great and a long way from elite..

 

[johneric8]

Quit saying Dak did this or Dak did that... Bottom line, just because Dak doesn't throw a completion doesn't make it all his fault. Sometimes a QB's vision is compromised, sometimes the receivers are lazy and not getting open. Sometimes the online sucks.. Dak is not a problem, he is an asset..

 

[kento40]

He did nothing with a torn ligament in his throwing shoulder that he took a shot before the game and at half time for.

HE said he was fine. If he truly cared about the team, he would have put his ego aside and let his healthy backup play.

 

[Jake]

HE said he was fine. If he truly cared about the team, he would have put his ego aside and let his healthy backup play.

If he sits out and says his shoulder hurts he's not tough, not a leader, and let his team down.

He says he's okay, plays, so he didn't care about the team, put his ego aside and let Rush play.

Either way he's going to get criticized by those who don't like him and defended by those who do.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Look how he plays.. He’s an ultra conservative QB. We can’t even get him to run for easy first downs sometimes.

Yeah he’ll air it out on some bad teams and inflate his stats but where is he when we play the saints, Bills, Patriots, @ Eagles?

Catch, that is what you think you see. But do you know for a fact this is what the coaching staff teaches or tells him?

I can list at least five games where Romo threw a pick and lost the game against top flight talent, or in critical times when the season was on the line. Maybe if I went through the record, I could double that. And in each of those the board went wild defending Romo and blaming the defense.

Perhaps Dak trying to protect both the ball from a pick, and the defense from terrible field position is what you are seeing and attributing it to Dak when he may well be instructed to not risk to win the game.

I would be far more inclined to believe Garrett preaching caution to the point of near cowardice over Dak who has a fire about him to win.

I could be way wrong. But the likelihood is in my favor considering Garrett's lack of guts over your assertion.

 

[CATCH17]

Catch, that is what you think you see. But do you know for a fact this is what the coaching staff teaches or tells him?

I can list at least five games where Romo threw a pick and lost the game against top flight talent, or in critical times when the season was on the line. Maybe if I went through the record, I could double that. And in each of those the board went wild defending Romo and blaming the defense.

Perhaps Dak trying to protect both the ball from a pick, and the defense from terrible field position is what you are seeing and attributing it to Dak when he may well be instructed to not risk to win the game.

I would be far more inclined to believe Garrett preaching caution to the point of near cowardice over Dak who has a fire about him to win.

I could be way wrong. But the likelihood is in my favor considering Garrett's lack of guts over your assertion.

Yes but until 2014 we basically asked Romo to be a 1 man army and oh btw coach the team too because the guy we hired is trash.

In 2014 we brought in Linehan and balanced the run/pass and he was playing at an MVP level.

Before that it was Romo or bust.