Does the idea of drafting another quarterback in the first round entice you at all?

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Yes. We should draft a 1st round QB. Strike rate has improved the past 2-3 of years - most 1st rounders in this period are starters.

There's also the cap hit. A lot of 2nd contracts are overpriced and restrictive. Too many teams are getting burnt this way. Better to use the money to improve the roster.

With new coaches and a new system this is the ideal time to change the Cowboys QB room. We should replace all the QBs to help change the culture. New QB room should be 2020 1st rounder, vet with starting experience (one of Mariota, Bortles, Keenum etc. on short term contract c.5m) and a hard working undrafted FA from a small college with development upside.
 

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No one is saying that here. Relax. It’s just a nature of the business and shouldn’t perceive as a knock on Prescott

it’s ok to like Prescott but still think about the alternative in the draft
I am relaxed and you need to get with the program with regard to a knock on Prescott. It's also ok to have the opinion I do.
 

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It’s not a knock on our quarterback. I’m genuinely asking.

I like Dak but the idea completely starting over with McCarthy is an enticing option for me. I’m good either way but I wanted to get a room temperature of the board


Yes. Khalil Tate. QB. Arizona.
 

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The only way this works for me is if someone picked up Dak on a tag and send us two 1st round picks...one of them high. Then you would have the ammunition to select a QB and potentially even grab a DT. But I don't think that's a likely scenario.

But with our pick at 17? Not unless the first 16 passed or something.

Now if someone sent us 2 first I could envision the possibility of someone else behind center but like you said highly unlikely especially with all the chatter from the Jones's
If they tag Prescott, they just about have to go for a QB unless they pick up a FA. And the top 3 are probably gone in the first 6 picks.

The riskiest move would be to try and trade up for Tua, the blue chipper that won't need to play in 2020. It would take a lot since MIA is looking at him as their 2021 QB1. But what a luxury, let him clipboard it and learn from the HC and OC his rookie season and let Big Mike prep him as he did Rodgers. However, that might put MIA in the Lawrence sweepstakes for 2021 and what's a year? They could prepare the team for his coming.

Doing that sends the message that this is not our year and the QB is auditioning for that job with another team. It could be a message to some of these players to coast as well.

But you know, doing that is a win-win for Booger. It's got that gamble element that he likes but the message is he's going for the gold and not settling for silver and paying it with gold.

Tua dont excite me (injury) and hell be gone by #5 if not there the chargers at 6 in most of the mocks Ive seen. The defense has too many needs but perhaps you can take a flyer on hurts if he falls to 3rd round. If there is a hold out is only where you run into problems but I dont see that
 

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I am relaxed and you need to get with the program with regard to a knock on Prescott. It's also ok to have the opinion I do.


Personally I think Dak is very good can be borderline great. However, I do not believe he has the innate quality to make players better around him like miles Austin, Crayton, Robinson. He needs a supporting cast to thrive. If we pay him top dollar, it may be hard to do that
 

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It’s not a knock on our quarterback. I’m genuinely asking.

I like Dak but the idea completely starting over with McCarthy is an enticing option for me. I’m good either way but I wanted to get a room temperature of the board
McCarthy was brought here to get Dak to a SB or 3.

I do not think he signed on having to completely rebuild starting from Ground Zero.

Dallas has factored Dak being resigned and McCarthy knows this.

So anything we do is about this team being improved around Dak. This ensures Amari getting his deal done soon.

Not sure about Byron Jones.

The window is short now that 4 years with Dak has produced little.

Now is what is important. The draft and FA is our mode of getting there.
 

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Personally I think Dak is very good can be borderline great. However, I do not believe he has the innate quality to make players better around him like miles Austin, Crayton, Robinson. He needs a supporting cast to thrive. If we pay him top dollar, it may be hard to do that
That's a misused phrase. "Makes players better." It's ridiculous to assume that's not the case.
But let's take a gamble and once again ignore the DL and Safety position and HOPE a new QB can develop before this young team is over the hill. Great plan.
 

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I am sure you are right. I know the new guy gets zero leeway with me though. :laugh:
Same here. What a waste of the last 4 years as it is, let's pray the next guy is God's gift and is a prolific and elite talent. Because without early picks on the DL and secondary - we're going nowhere.
 

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Same here. What a waste of the last 4 years as it is, let's pray the next guy is God's gift and is a prolific and elite talent. Because without early picks on the DL and secondary - we're going nowhere.
Well he would be stepping into a SB winning team as long as he plays better than Dak, so no excuses.
 

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Boggles my mind how some fans think we can land a better option with such certainty, and shows zero concern on this mediocre DL. At best mediocre. Prescott has played at a high level for 4 straight seasons, missing zero games and getting paid nothing. It's ridiculous to assume he doesn't deserve to be paid. If the FO doesn't retain him, they're idiots.

We don’t need to find a better option.. We just need to find something similar and if we create a optimal environment for a QB to play in, and have the cap flexibility to provide that QB a defense then we’ll be fine. Especially if McCarthy is an upgrade.

Dak has played in one of the most optimal environments for a QB and he has done a solid job but has no playoff success to show for it and his contract demands just make it harder to provide all the things he needs to win a Super Bowl.
 

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It’s not a knock on our quarterback. I’m genuinely asking.

I like Dak but the idea completely starting over with McCarthy is an enticing option for me. I’m good either way but I wanted to get a room temperature of the board
Believe it or not this question has been raised in other threads and some are scared because we could draft a bust so don't do it. That's what I normally get when I said we should draft a QB in the first rd.

Edit: I see some in this thread bringing that cowardly lion approach to life to this thread also. I'm scared we might fail while forgetting we could also succeed.
 

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It depends on the QB. I would not reach for one but if a really good one falls to us in our natural draft position then I'd pull the trigger.
 

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It’s not a knock on our quarterback. I’m genuinely asking.

I like Dak but the idea completely starting over with McCarthy is an enticing option for me. I’m good either way but I wanted to get a room temperature of the board

It's the absolute only thing that keeps my full blown apathy level at bay. Find it hard to watch full games as it stands now but if contract is awarded to current QB that will further limit my viewing.
 
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If you slap a tag on Dak, even just to negotiate, you absolutely have to at least follow the draft board and consider drafting a QB in every round. Dak absolutely has the power to take the two big paydays and walk out the door like Kirk Cousins, leaving you holding the bag. It would be irresponsible to not immediately start looking at QBs if you apply the tag.
 

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The longer our fearless leader holds out....yes

Me-Dak is ruining the most exciting off season we've seen around here in well over a decade.
 

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That's a misused phrase. "Makes players better." It's ridiculous to assume that's not the case.
But let's take a gamble and once again ignore the DL and Safety position and HOPE a new QB can develop before this young team is over the hill. Great plan.
I have no problem drafting in later rounds..

either this year or next.

Or signing a FA this year or next.

Probably this year if possible.

We got really lucky with drafting Dak as a backup to Romo. Dak was supposed to ride the bench for several years while we won a SB for Tony.

Now lots has changed. We need a backup for Dak. No way do I think McCarthy stays wish Rush and White.

If we think the hiring and firing by McCarthy of coaches has been fast and furious..

wait until between the draft and TC.

It's going to be a mass overhaul on this team of players. Not starters per se..

but reserves and role players are going to be churned to stiffen special teams and specialty groups like nickle packages, etc.

Our lack of real depth has been glaring over the years.

I think under McCarthy, that is one of his changes.

Welcome. Git 'or done.
 

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It’s not a knock on our quarterback. I’m genuinely asking.

I like Dak but the idea completely starting over with McCarthy is an enticing option for me. I’m good either way but I wanted to get a room temperature of the board
not at the point in which we're picking. but to be fair to dak, he's done better than quite a few 1st round / 1st selection picks over the last several decades. while i'm not a huge dak fan, i do realize he's better than a majority of qb's we could draft and it would be insane to simply give up and go fishing again.
 
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