Dak's contract is going to be a bargain in 3 or 4 years if we sign him now?

D4KADON · Feb 18, 2020

The Notion that we cant win while paying Dak is not true because...

1. The Cap is continuously going up

2. Watson, Mahomes, Jackson are going to reset the market like crazy.

3. We should be building through the draft anyways.

That's why it's important we do it NOW and not wait this thing out.

Future · Feb 18, 2020

This is why Dak isn't signing. The Cowboys know this, which is why they want to get it done.

Dak would be stupid to sign before the CBA for anything other than WAY over market value. Fans need to accept that and understand that the fact that Russel Wilson is better means absolutely nothing.

Frozen700 · Feb 18, 2020

Dak is greedy. So no he will never come cheap unless he suffers a serious injury, and teams are scared to touch him.

#DontpayDak

CCBoy · Feb 18, 2020

Along with the cap expanding over the next few years, a new player's agreement could push up available funds as well.

Then a negotiated contract now, and not placement of a tag...that hits the cap immediately. A contract, can be worked around and hit effects juggled over three to four years. This puts more immediately available funds into play right now. The team better gain in player quality and retentions as well. The defense needs some free agent acquisitions as well as upgrades...

As to Dak Prescott, the phrase was pay the pain, before the champagne. Here, Dak, in all games started...is 40 wins and 24 losses. Over the past three seasons, Dak also has the 2nd most come-back wins in the entire NFL. Shortly, the contract fo Dak this year...as stated above, will not be record setting.

JJHLH1 · Feb 18, 2020

Agree. The longer we wait the more we are going to have to pay Dak.

The contract will be huge because Dak is the next QB up. That’s always the way it’s been.

Get the deal done Jerry.

Frozen700 · Feb 18, 2020

Future said:
This is why Dak isn't signing. The Cowboys know this, which is why they want to get it done.

Dak would be stupid to sign before the CBA for anything other than WAY over market value. Fans need to accept that and understand that the fact that Russel Wilson is better means absolutely nothing.

Well then let him walk. He has super average skills, and can't carry a team.

#DontpayDak

Loso86 · Feb 18, 2020

D4KADON said:
The Notion that we cant win while paying Dak is not true because...

1. The Cap is continuously going up

2. Watson, Mahomes, Jackson are going to reset the market like crazy.

3. We should be building through the draft anyways.

That's why it's important we do it NOW and not wait this thing out.

And it wont be 35 mil against the Cap this year either. I understand he isnt the best. But hes by no means a bad quarterback. Were in win now mode not let an unproven guy see IF he can just manage things well mode. Pay Dak move on to the next guy

jazzcat22 · Feb 18, 2020

Future said:
This is why Dak isn't signing. The Cowboys know this, which is why they want to get it done.

Dak would be stupid to sign before the CBA for anything other than WAY over market value. Fans need to accept that and understand that the fact that Russel Wilson is better means absolutely nothing.

Then Dak has a dilemma. He said he would hold out under the franchise tag, but if he doesn't sign the tag or a new contract before the new CBA, he will be sitting out a year. Then Dallas can draft a QB, move on, tag Dak again. He sits again, unless a team wants to trade for a QB that sat out a year. Though above average, he wants to be paid too. Does a team want to take that on.

What else does Dak do, sign the tag and not report? Then what happens. I guess the team can fine him, but that is about it. But will they do that.

atlantacowboy · Feb 18, 2020

I'm going with that depends on how he plays and how far into the playoffs he marches us.

Future · Feb 18, 2020

Frozen700 said:
Well then let him walk. He has super average skills, and can't carry a team.

#DontpayDak

Saying Dak has "super average skills" is...dumb. He was the only QB in the top-5 in both air yards and accuracy last year. Not sure how that counts as average. Literally no quarterback in the league threw it as far and as accurately as he did last year. Not one.

But please, keep blathering about how he has average skills.

Future · Feb 18, 2020

jazzcat22 said:
Then Dak has a dilemma. He said he would hold out under the franchise tag, but if he doesn't sign the tag or a new contract before the new CBA, he will be sitting out a year. Then Dallas can draft a QB, move on, tag Dak again. He sits again, unless a team wants to trade for a QB that sat out a year. Though above average, he wants to be paid too. Does a team want to take that on.

What else does Dak do, sign the tag and not report? Then what happens. I guess the team can fine him, but that is about it. But will they do that.

Dak has all the leverage b/c Dallas can't afford to have him sit.

It's not a dilemma. He's going to get well over $35m, or he's doing the Cowboys a favor.

G2 · Feb 18, 2020

Future said:
Saying Dak has "super average skills" is...dumb. He was the only QB in the top-5 in both air yards and accuracy last year. Not sure how that counts as average. Literally no quarterback in the league threw it as far and as accurately as he did last year. Not one.

But please, keep blathering about how he has average skills.

"carry the team" - another misused phrase. I should make a list of all the hot take phrases some fans spew to defend their anti-dak stance.

Prime21 · Feb 18, 2020

Dak will probably be renegotiating his next contract in 3 or 4 years. This is one of the hang ups. Cowboys FO want to lock him up long term so that his contract is a bargain in a few years but Dak wants a shorter deal that allows him to re up after new QB contracts raise the going rate for a QB.

Jerry will get fleeced in this negotiation.

BigStar · Feb 18, 2020

Over paying now will look good in 3 to 4 years because bad contracts will catch up. :huh:

This has been repeated a few times around here. Garbage time stats and 8-8 after losing all critical games down the stretch; can't lose this guy?

Yeah....nah. Tag him, his leverage disappears. Sign Keenum and draft a QB if he wants to hold out.

DasTex · Feb 18, 2020

Dak needs Dallas more than Dallas needs Dak.
Dak on a team with below average Oline and limited running game equals a below average QB.
I like Dak...seems like a good dude off the field and represents the Star well but he's not a franchise QB right now.

Dallas can pay for a bus driver type QB and be successful by building talent around them.
Good Oline
Great RB
Good WR
You don't HAVE to have a top 5 QB.

cowboy_ron · Feb 18, 2020

That also means that for 3 or 4 years it's NOT a bargain.

That doesn't erase the fact that him demanding anything more than fair market value is pure breed.

jazzcat22 · Feb 18, 2020

Future said:
Dak has all the leverage b/c Dallas can't afford to have him sit.

It's not a dilemma. He's going to get well over $35m, or he's doing the Cowboys a favor.

I think the opposite way, they can draft a QB in the 1st round, let Dak sit. I prefer they sign him, get it done, but not hold the team hostage for over that $35 million.
I understand what you are saying though, and tend to agree, but I also think they can go the way I am thinking, though most likely will not. But they should. Because if they don't, they can be without a QB other than Rush or some other lowly backup.

Unless for some reason Rivers and Brady are still out there. Heck, Brees could be out there as well. :laugh:

Future · Feb 18, 2020

jazzcat22 said:
I think the opposite way, they can draft a QB in the 1st round, let Dak sit. I prefer they sign him, get it done, but not hold the team hostage for over that $35 million.
I understand what you are saying though, and tend to agree, but I also think they can go the way I am thinking, though most likely will not. But they should. Because if they don't, they can be without a QB other than Rush or some other lowly backup.

Unless for some reason Rivers and Brady are still out there. Heck, Brees could be out there as well.

What you're proposing means forfeiting this season. They aren't going to do that. There is too much talent on this roster to go that route.

viman96 · Feb 18, 2020

Dak has the majority of the leverage as long as Dallas allows him too. If they bring in a vet QB or draft a QB then the leverage is greatly diminished or gone. IMO Dak's agent took a huge gamble not signing a contract before this upcoming offseason with several vet QBs on the open market and the upcoming draft. Teams have more options this year.

glimmerman · Feb 18, 2020

jazzcat22 said:
Then Dak has a dilemma. He said he would hold out under the franchise tag, but if he doesn't sign the tag or a new contract before the new CBA, he will be sitting out a year. Then Dallas can draft a QB, move on, tag Dak again. He sits again, unless a team wants to trade for a QB that sat out a year. Though above average, he wants to be paid too. Does a team want to take that on.

What else does Dak do, sign the tag and not report? Then what happens. I guess the team can fine him, but that is about it. But will they do that.

I think if he don’t want to sign a contract at all then he will play under the tag and once again gamble on himself. I don’t like it because I feel like he may hold back using his legs. Him being a running threat is part of what makes him good. If teams know he is gonna stand in the pocket then it makes him easier to try to stop.

Dak's contract is going to be a bargain in 3 or 4 years if we sign him now?

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