Dez still working out and vying for chance with Cowboys

dwreck27 said:

I think Dez was a super lazy route runner and got by with Tony making him look way better than he was...

Dak needs others to help him elevate his game...

Dez can have a niche role here if he embraces being the #3 guy on the team worry about his quickness to play that slot

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The biggest problem with Dak and Dez is that Dak is incapable of throwing the passes that makes Dez special. Dak can not throw an accurate back shoulder pass or throw the passes where Dez can out jump everyone by high pointing the ball. Romo know how to throw to Dez took advantage of Dez’s talents. Dak did not.

vnick said:

I don't think it's a given Dez will work harder and make them all work harder. He might, but focus and hard work were never traits Dez displayed as a player. His emotional intensity was nice, and I don't fault him for that, but he also was known for being divisive in the meeting rooms, showing up late for meetings and practices, and the Cowboys covering up a lot of his other transgressions. At one time, he required a paid baby-sitter from the Cowboys.

Now, Dez may have grown up and show up and work hard. His circumstances surely point that way, but the world is full of people down to their last chance who still do not change their stripes.

The Cowboys know Dez better than anyone. My guess it wasn't just Witten and Garrett who he wore out his welcome with. I would love the talented Dez to be given a chance, but if he's lost 1/3 of that talent, I am not sure Dez is worth the headaches he could bring. Yes, there's a chance he won't bring them, but is he worth bringing the old Dez minus his talent into the locker room? I don't think so. Unfortunately for Dez, he made a bed he has to lie in.

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I think Dez has been humbled and is in a desperate attempt to get one last shot . I feel at this point he would suppress his arrogance and do whatever necessary to make and stay on the team .

That said you are 100% right at times he behaved like a smacked *** but I feel he is worth a look in camp to see if he still has it or has lost 1/3 of his talent and if he is a positive influence in the locker room or a distraction . If he isnt a positive let him go fast

Blackrain said:

I think Dez has been humbled and is in a desperate attempt to get one last shot . I feel at this point he would suppress his arrogance and do whatever necessary to make and stay on the team .

That said you are 100% right at times he behaved like a smacked *** but I feel he is worth a look in camp to see if he still has it or has lost 1/3 of his talent and if he is a positive influence in the locker room or a distraction . If he isnt a positive let him go fast

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The problem with this approach is if you bring him to camp and he is divisive, his work ethic and habits could rub off on the younger players. Dez is a big personality. If he is in camp, he's going to draw attention simply because he is Dez. I would love for a feel-good story surrounding Dez, but can fully see why the Cowboys do not think his talent matches the circus it would cause.

DuncanIso said:

73 TDS.

not bad for a bad route runner.

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His shell is better than Randall Cobb or Gallop. Lol. Twice the red zone scoring threat.

America's Cowboy said:

Aren't you one who is totally against Dak and wants him replaced?

Sounds like you should heed your own words.

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You have me confused with someone else bro.

CowboysExchange said:

His shell is better than Randall Cobb or Gallop. Lol. Twice the red zone scoring threat.

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Dez can’t even beat a picture of the old Dez. He is done.

Verdict said:

Dez can’t even beat a picture of the old Dez. He is done.

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His tds dropped off but he was scoring more tds per year then gallop by far and not much behind cooper when he left. Hes better than witten and jarwin as a spot player. He still has gamechanging abilities and is a perfect fit for a team that cant score beans. Hed be a perfect plug n play #2-#3 or #4 wr. Hed be drawing more than just containment coverage like #82 and Jarwin. Lets see Dez drawing the 3rd or 4th best defender playing the 3rd or 4th wr role. Hed be the only guy who could go up and get a ball consistently if he signed tomorrow. I like wr who can jump and have ball in hand skills that score. Dez can do that. He was a much bigger scoring threat than coop in his prime. Coop is getting almost 3 million per td against <.500 teams. As good as coops route running is most of his stats come against <.500 teams. Dez was a beast against good teams

DallasDomination said:

Dez can be our #3 easily..

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Yet no team in the league has offered him a deal.

NONE.

Verdict said:

You have me confused with someone else bro.

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My apologies brother.

Those yards and no score games against good teams is how youre measured. Coop is gonna get 7-8 tds max, gallop 4 tds and Jarwin 4 tds and Dez did that in one year drawing double teams cuz nobody had to cover hanna or witten because they had no scoring ability. Lmao. Just the old let him catch it short of the sticks and it time to go home losers again crap. We saw it 3 straight 8-8 years. Thats when you knew #82 was pure stats hype as a wr. He couldnt make gamewinning or gamechanging plays in a dominant fashion. When the game was on the line #82 would catch the ball for 3 yards on 3rd and 10 and we'd clean out our lockers in LOSING FASHION. He was the Greatest Te in NFL History who never caught a gamechanging pass that won beans. Dez didnt have jack for tes or a #2 wr or hed be a hof based upon scoring had he played long enough. Hes the all time leader in Tds scored being double teamed in a dual te passing formation that sucked esp if you were one of the better qualified guys on the bench for that down and distance. #82 should have been benched on critical gamechanging plays based upon the # of times he came up SHORT!!! DEZ HAD A SPOT PLAYED BEASELY AND RB AND THATS IT. Pair him up w Tom Brady in Tampa and I guarantee ya he'll add 6-7 tds a year. Gronk could spot play 6-7 tds a year in the red zone. Go get him. We need an Alpha dog who can jump and catch at the same time lol

vnick said:

The problem with this approach is if you bring him to camp and he is divisive, his work ethic and habits could rub off on the younger players. Dez is a big personality. If he is in camp, he's going to draw attention simply because he is Dez. I would love for a feel-good story surrounding Dez, but can fully see why the Cowboys do not think his talent matches the circus it would cause.

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All true that chance exists and it is a risk . I just feel looking at the work he is putting in that his larger than life personality could have a positive
effect at this point in his career.

He has nothing to lose and really must be a positive force all the way around from his performance on the field to mentoring the young bucks off the field to fulfill his dream .

I would love to see a feel good story also regarding Dez , Have watched too many players regress and waste their careers here under this coaching and culture . Things look to have changed radically for the better in those areas and it could be just what Dez needs at this point in his life and career

Fear is a powerful motivator and as much as he would probably love to be the old Dez he has to know it would negate all his hard work and cost him any chance he has to resurrect his career.

Que the "Eye of the tiger" Rocky come back music. We are all suckers for that type of story.

Give him a shot on the 90+ roster, no signing bonus, maybe an incentive layered contract. If he fails and doesn't make the 53, no foul no harm. If he does earn it and gives us a red zone threat, well heck yeah, nice job.

Low risk, high reward.

CowboysExchange said:

His shell is better than Randall Cobb or Gallop. Lol. Twice the red zone scoring threat.

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Lol Gallup is better than dez and is going into his 3rd year. Gallup is coming off of a 1000 yard season and you think dez is better after being out of football for 2 years? Lol give me some of what you’re smoking.

Ranching said:

It was a Garrett and Linehan issue

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I thought Bryant had dyslexia. I’ve watched some of his catchers where the ball was low. Instead of having palms up he would have palms forward and bounce right off his hands .Also problem learning a playbook attention deficit. He was so dramatic. But he was so inconsistent on third down . For me it wasn’t the amount of passes he dropped. It’s when he drop them

Whirlwin said:

I thought Bryant had dyslexia. I’ve watched some of his catchers where the ball was low. Instead of having palms up he would have palms forward and bounce right off his hands .Also problem learning a playbook attention deficit. He was so dramatic. But he was so inconsistent on third down . For me it wasn’t the amount of passes he dropped. It’s when he drop them

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I coached many kids with attitude and learning disability. The key word here is COACH. Either Garrett didn't have the balls to put his foot down and coach him up or Jerry didn't allow it. If he comes back he will not have the paycheck to merit any favors from MM. I say, give him a chance.

I WILL PUT THIS AS LIGHTLY AS I CAN.

HELL N. O.

Just let the guy tryout. Can’t hurt. If he can’t play, don’t sign him

DallasDW00ds0n said:

Just let the guy tryout. Can’t hurt. If he can’t play, don’t sign him

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Yeah I don't see any harm in a tryout.

keysersoze said:

Like I said prior. The catches were more difficult and amazing than the throws.

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I'm not sure you understand how difficult it is to put the ball where the receiver wants it to be. Most quarterbacks deliver to a catch radius because it's pretty much impossible to place a ball perfectly on point every time.

It's easy to watch Dez's play with Dak and see that Prescott either wasn't comfortable or wasn't able at that point in his career to place the ball where it needed to be with Dez. With receivers who don't really create much separation, it takes more accuracy to put that ball up over the corner where the receiver can win it. Too low and the corner's body is in the way. Too high and the receiver can't climb the ladder enough. Too wide and the receiver can't adjust against the direction his momentum is taking him.

I'm not discrediting the catches; those were Dez's strong point. If the QB put it up there in Dez's zone, he was going to go get it. Again, you can go back and listen to what Romo had to say about where the ball needed to be placed.

Now, I don't want to put the blame on Dez's falloff squarely on Prescott. Injuries also took some of Bryant's ability to win the jump balls as well as any explosiveness that he had. He essentially became a one-trick pony and he wasn't near as good at that trick as he had been. (This is when the route-running complaints emerged, which were legitimate mainly because Dez never really had had to focus on route precision before.)

Dylan88Wilson said:

Dak wasn't a very good downfield thrower when he had Dez. Wasn’t good at throwing jump balls either. He completely turned that around this year. Now that Dak knows how to get it to him, Dez could be very useful in this offense.

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One place that I think Kitna was good for Dak is in getting him to turn it loose some instead of being consumed by the possibility of turning the ball over. Now, there are some throws Prescott should not have attempted last year, but he did need to learn that sometimes you've got to just give the receiver a chance to win, especially if he's single-covered.

You can't always just make a safe throw in those situations either. To put it where the receiver needs it in those situations there's going to be some element of risk.