What makes someone love Dak while hating Romo, or vice versa?

Captain-Crash · May 14, 2020

Super_Kazuya said:
You sound like a fake fan who never watched a Cowboys game to me. Romo didn’t have “frequent untimely miscues”. Maybe you could look up how many career playoff interceptions Romo had, providing you can actually read.

lol, you are the best and most honest poster on here.
:thumbup:

CowboysFaninHouston · May 14, 2020

Red Dragon said:
Note: I don't want this to be the 500th edition of "Dak sucks" or "Romo sucks." Let's keep this one different - let's stay on topic, focused, and not stray into the usual same-old same-old arguments we've had elsewhere for years.

There are many Cowboys fans who love both Romo and Dak. There are also a few who, for some reason, hate both Romo and Dak. Okay, that's fine - at least they're consistent.

What puzzles me is fans who love Romo while hating Dak, or love Dak while hating Romo.

Because, from a purely objective standpoint, both players were quite similar. They both have a 1:2 ratio of playoff wins to losses, for instance. They were usually good enough to put the Cowboys in playoff contention every single December, even if not getting them in outright. They both made plays with their arms and legs, they had times when they were let down by shoddy defense or a bad O-line, they were both players of good character, etc. They both had good touchdown-to-interception ratios. They are both Pro Bowl level quarterbacks that the Cowboys were lucky to stumble into (one was a 4th-round pick, one was undrafted.)

In fact, I bet I could get some stats for both players - passing stats, win-to-loss ratio, etc. - and Cowboys Zoners wouldn't be able to readily guess which belonged to Romo and which belonged to Dak.

Yet - over the past few years - we've seen a stunning turnaround. The exact same posters here who criticized Romo, "It's wins that count, not stats" - now suddenly defend Dak by touting his stats and also saying, "A quarterback can't win by himself, it's a team game." And the exact same posters who defended Romo by saying "a quarterback can't win by himself" suddenly now criticize Dak "it's wins that count, not stats."

What gives? It's a strange, bizarre, hypocrisy.

they both had one thing in common. Garrett as a head coach....he lost a deciding 16th game three times to the eagles....one time back to back with Romo….and in all cases I believe we ended up 8-8....ironic

fairviewfarmer · May 14, 2020

Never hated him but I was just ready to move on from Romo because he had his chances to deliver a Super Bowl appearance and he either choked, or got injured. The way Dak played when he was a rookie gave me hope that he could get us to a Super Bowl in a year or two..... He has failed so far too. jmo.

D4KADON · May 14, 2020

Vandyr said:
For me, with Romo I always felt like they could come back from anything. With Dak, I don't get that feeling. Romo felt dynamic, Dak feels like a bus driver. That's not to say I don't like Dak, I just think he's over-hyped.

I am looking forward to what MM can do with him though.

This pretty much summarizes how I feel too

Alexander · May 14, 2020

I am still struggling to understand why anyone should care.

So, love every QB or git out?

Or like, you should like this guy because was better over ten years duh!

Trying to understand what special kind of mentality we are dealing with here.

Alexander · May 14, 2020

Super_Kazuya said:
You sound like a fake fan who never watched a Cowboys game to me. Romo didn’t have “frequent untimely miscues”. Maybe you could look up how many career playoff interceptions Romo had, providing you can actually read.

Why are you restricting the argument to playoff interceptions?

Was that the question? Forgive me, I am just wading in out of boredom.

This whole idea of continuing to bring up Romo is certainly fascinating in a way.

408Cowboy · May 14, 2020

Red Dragon said:
Note: I don't want this to be the 500th edition of "Dak sucks" or "Romo sucks." Let's keep this one different - let's stay on topic, focused, and not stray into the usual same-old same-old arguments we've had elsewhere for years.

There are many Cowboys fans who love both Romo and Dak. There are also a few who, for some reason, hate both Romo and Dak. Okay, that's fine - at least they're consistent.

What puzzles me is fans who love Romo while hating Dak, or love Dak while hating Romo.

Because, from a purely objective standpoint, both players were quite similar. They both have a 1:2 ratio of playoff wins to losses, for instance. They were usually good enough to put the Cowboys in playoff contention every single December, even if not getting them in outright. They both made plays with their arms and legs, they had times when they were let down by shoddy defense or a bad O-line, they were both players of good character, etc. They both had good touchdown-to-interception ratios. They are both Pro Bowl level quarterbacks that the Cowboys were lucky to stumble into (one was a 4th-round pick, one was undrafted.)

In fact, I bet I could get some stats for both players - passing stats, win-to-loss ratio, etc. - and Cowboys Zoners wouldn't be able to readily guess which belonged to Romo and which belonged to Dak.

Yet - over the past few years - we've seen a stunning turnaround. The exact same posters here who criticized Romo, "It's wins that count, not stats" - now suddenly defend Dak by touting his stats and also saying, "A quarterback can't win by himself, it's a team game." And the exact same posters who defended Romo by saying "a quarterback can't win by himself" suddenly now criticize Dak "it's wins that count, not stats."

What gives? It's a strange, bizarre, hypocrisy.

Simply put the Romo supporters use the same arguments the haters used against him against Dak. Dak supporters now use the same arguments that once were used to defend Romo to defend Dak. Both sides flipped the script crumpled it up and set it on fire. Irony has been cooked and seasoned to perfection.

Keithfansince5 · May 14, 2020

For some it might simply be same race as them? For other's they just like the guy.

Established1971 · May 14, 2020

texbumthelife said:
I just love the fact another poster commented on Romo being handed the job without competition, but Dak earning it. Do people really forget that quickly?

its the exact opposite

Gangsta Spanksta · May 14, 2020

JoeKing said:
I don't think any Cowboys fan hates both of these QBs. The hate has been mostly reserved for Dak.

You must be new here. Hate is focused in on Dak because this is the Dak era. There was plenty of Romo hating in the Romo Era.

Gangsta Spanksta · May 14, 2020

morat1959 said:
Romo was slightly above average. Dak is average at best. Neither had a coaching staff worth a crap to work with. Romo took too many chances with the ball. Dak has many flaws. Most are not fixable.

I think you are wrong. Both are Good but note Elite Quarterbacks, who had/have the potential to be more.

Gangsta Spanksta · May 14, 2020

Vandyr said:
Every time I see someone post this, I lose a little respect for them.

the Agenda word is used as a cheap way to discredit people and get them to shut up without putting much effort into making an argument for your side. I mean, come on, really, what agenda could someone possibly have when expressing an opinion about their favorite sports team. >.>

JoeKing · May 14, 2020

Gangsta Spanksta said:
You must be new here. Hate is focused in on Dak because this is the Dak era. There was plenty of Romo hating in the Romo Era.

Not new here. Maybe my memory is just failing me. Romo hate just isn't something I recall after living through the QB purgatory that existed after Aikman until Romo became the starter.

eromeopolk · May 14, 2020

texbumthelife said:
How did Dak get the Cowboys starting job?

He earned it. Moore broke his leg, then Dak show in the preseason he was special making Romo fell the heat and overplayed in a preseason game getting hurt. Cowboys felt so cofident that Dak could carry the season, the sign Mark Sanchez as a back up. Dak lost his first game as a starter then went 10-0, and finishing 13-3. that is how Dak got and kept the starting QB job in Dallas.

How else would you make a ultra competitive, great QB like Romo concede his starting job? Now, go look up the definition of concede.

FLCowboyFan · May 14, 2020

The answer is easy. People have an agenda. Much like ide Ideology .

leeblair · May 14, 2020

Romo had a lot of potential- until Jason Garrett. Garrett let Romo go unchecked with his pass happy, undisciplined offense, and in the end Romo was a complete failure.
Dak was given the gift of the best offensive line in football, and the best running back in the league and had a banner year in 2016, leading some to believe that he was better than he is.
But Romo accomplished more with less and had more talent- causing him to acquire fans.
But in the end, Romo's ending- and Dak's beginning- were brought about by the same "Let's try this" incompetent head coaching of Jason Garrett.
Just as Romo was wasted, Dak was misjudged.
But Dak never had the mentality to lead. He stepped into a great situation, and Garrett immediately gave up on Romo in the hope that Dak would make him look good.
Far be it from Garrett to ever look in the mirror and admit he was incompetent.

Gangsta Spanksta · May 14, 2020

DFWJC said:
Selective memory then, PJ
Man, it was very vocal and loud.
20, 30, maybe even 50 people in this very forum wanted him gone after 2013.
Especially the Manziel crew...and there were (I counted at one point) at least 90 of them....half wanted him gone immediately and the other half wanted one year to groom Johnny football.
The vitriol was deafening.

Guys like ufcrules, Clove, Aviano, Blake, lostar, Gimmetheball, Gameover, and many more
Nonstop personal attacks on Romo with nastiness WAY beyond what we are seeing with dak. Not even close.

By the way, PJ, you were not one of them. You even said if we drafted Manziel "he would just be on the bench"

Look, I know all this because of way back then it got so ugly I started saving quotes that were outlandish--mainly the ones that got personal. Seems silly, but that's how bad it got.

Yup and it is not just limited to the forum. I live in the Metroplex, so I've seen and heard a lot of Romo hate outside the forum, at the work place, on the streets, people calling in on talk radio. The amount of hatred that Dak gets is about the same as Romo got.

Gangsta Spanksta · May 14, 2020

JoeKing said:
Not new here. Maybe my memory is just failing me. Romo hate just isn't something I recall after living through the QB purgatory that existed after Aikman until Romo became the starter.

At my work place, I remember plenty of Romo dissing after he lost us a game for being a bit of a gambler. I heard people saying things like that we should just put in the backup Quarterback in that anyone would be better than Romo. But honestly, you never saw a thread here with plenty of heat when Romo would cost us a game because of an interception? I certainly don't remember as many people jock sniffing romo, unable to see any of his flaws, but that could be my own memory failing me.

Super_Kazuya · May 14, 2020

Alexander said:
Why are you restricting the argument to playoff interceptions?

Was that the question? Forgive me, I am just wading in out of boredom.

This whole idea of continuing to bring up Romo is certainly fascinating in a way.

Because I don’t think interceptions in out of conference week 1 games are “untimely miscues”? When are any miscues timely by the way? I mean we’ve been through this countless times on here, we can literally look at a list of every turnover Romo has ever committed thanks to Pro Football Reference. Every time I ask a Dak slobberer to point out which ones are so egregiously bad compared to any other QB we never hear from them again.

JoeKing · May 14, 2020

Gangsta Spanksta said:
At my work place, I remember plenty of Romo dissing after he lost us a game for being a bit of a gambler. I heard people saying things like that we should just put in the backup Quarterback in that anyone would be better than Romo. But honestly, you never saw a thread here with plenty of heat when Romo would cost us a game because of an interception? I certainly don't remember as many people jock sniffing romo, unable to see any of his flaws, but that could be my own memory failing me.

As I said with all seriousness, I think my memory just must be failing me. I know I always appreciated Romo.

What makes someone love Dak while hating Romo, or vice versa?

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What's it going to be then, eh?

What's it going to be then, eh?

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Hoping to be half the man Tom Landry was.

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