MM as a QB whisperer

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We are all aware of the long list of great QB's MM has worked with in his career, most recently he helped develop Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Yes, Rodgers came into this league with tremendous talent, but so have many others, a small list end up being hall of fame QB's, which Rodgers certainly will be. It was under MM watch and scheme that made Rodgers into the player he is today.

Now Dak isn't as physically gifted as an Aaron Rodgers, but MM has helped lesser talent thrive in this league at the position; Gannon, A. Brooks, M. Hasselbeck to name a few. He has a very successful track record with developing QB's. Let's be honest, Dak has worked with several QB coaches who don't have any close to MM's resume. Outside of Kitna, who was excellent helping young QB's out as a player, Dak really has had several unproven coaches. Many would argue Mark Sanchez helped Dak out the most in his early development.

Dak isn't a finished product by any means. Many forget that Romo sat on the sidelines for 2 full seasons learning the position, while Dak was thrown into the fire and performed so well, he actually stole Romo's job away from him. Nobody envisioned Dak even taking 1 rep as a rookie, yet the perfect storm happened and he seized his opportunity.

MM is the type of coach that potentially can take Dak's development to another level. Many will argue Dak is solid, but no where near elite by any means. We see post after post everyday here about him being not worth the money, that Dalton could be better at a lower cost, etc. MM chose this job specifically due to working with Dak Prescott. He could of went to the Giants, Browns who have young QB's, but decided to come to Dallas. Yes, he sees something special with Dak Prescott, if he believes this, the best is yet to come!
 
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I am stoked to see how different the Cowboys offense will look under McCarthy. He must be absolutely giddy when he looks at tape and sees the talent he has as his disposal. All he stars are aligned for him, it's just unfortunate he doesn't have the benefit of a normal preparation period.

I expect to see a big difference in tempo, pre-snap movement and route adjustments.
 
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Dak is more talented then his draft position. I believe he was seen by many as a 2nd round talent before his DUI cost him to drop out of Day 2. Dak is not done with his development and i would very much like to see what he becomes under Big Mac (if he would sign a darn contract already). Romo also played a big part in Daks amazing rookie season. Romo was literally making all the adjustments for Dak from the sidelines for him. Thats one thing i don't think Dak will ever surpass Romo on. Romos ability to read a defense is matched by only a few other QBs in history.
 
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Cowboyny said:
We are all aware of the long list of great QB's MM has worked with in his career, most recently he helped develop Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Yes, Rodgers came into this league with tremendous talent, but so have many others, a small list end up being hall of fame QB's, which Rodgers certainly will be. It was under MM watch and scheme that made Rodgers into the player he is today.

Now Dak isn't as physically gifted as an Aaron Rodgers, but MM has helped lesser talent thrive in this league at the position; Gannon, A. Brooks, M. Hasselbeck to name a few. He has a very successful track record with developing QB's. Let's be honest, Dak has worked with several QB coaches who don't have any close to MM's resume. Outside of Kitna, who was excellent helping young QB's out as a player, Dak really has had several unproven coaches. Many would argue Mark Sanchez helped Dak out the most in his early development.

Dak isn't a finished product by any means. Many forget that Romo sat on the sidelines for 2 full seasons learning the position, while Dak was thrown into the fire and performed so well, he actually stole Romo's job away from him. Nobody envisioned Dak even taking 1 rep as a rookie, yet the perfect storm happened and he seized his opportunity.

MM is the type of coach that potentially can take Dak's development to another level. Many will argue Dak is solid, but no where near elite by any means. We see post after post everyday here about him being not worth the money, that Dalton could be better at a lower cost, etc. MM chose this job specifically due to working with Dak Prescott. He could of went to the Giants, Browns who have young QB's, but decided to come to Dallas. Yes, he sees something special with Dak Prescott, if he believes this, the best is yet to come!
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The big M&M is a QB whisperer and the best proof is not Rogers, Farve, Hasselback, or Gannon. Aaron Brooks showed me the skills as a QB whisperer.

Before Drew Brees, the only QB to lead the Saints to a winning record, and first ever playoff win in franchise history (33 years in a row no playoff wins and only 4 non losing seasons). Aaron Brooks was a 6-4-220, 4.50 40 yd time, athlete project at QB, and was Micheal Vick's cousin making his mark before the Michael Vick experience. Having played only one year as a full time starter at UV, Brooks was RAW. Aaron Brooks was drafted by Green Bay where M&M started out with Brooks, and then had the Saints traded for the ex 4th round pick when the big M&M became the Saints OC. The Big M&M developed Brooks into a effective playoff contention QB until his departure from the Saints, eventually going back to Green Bay as HC. Believe me that having New Orleans win and be in playoff contention during those days was a Herculean feat as the club was cheap, poor performing franchise, and only had stability during the Jim Fink years as GM (1986-1992). M&M Aaron Brooks experience is the only thing I have hope for as Dak Prescott is tailor made for a QB whisperer like the Big M&M. Dak will listen, work hard, execute the game plan, and lead the way like he did for Jason Garrett but with a HC that can actually improve him, put him in better positions to win, and will take the reigns off to use Dak's mobility at QB. All the Big M&M QBs are known for their mobility and throwing. Dak fits M&M's QB profile.

Aaron Brooks is in the Saints Hall of Fame along with Archie Manning.
 
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Cowboyny said:
We are all aware of the long list of great QB's MM has worked with in his career, most recently he helped develop Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Yes, Rodgers came into this league with tremendous talent, but so have many others, a small list end up being hall of fame QB's, which Rodgers certainly will be. It was under MM watch and scheme that made Rodgers into the player he is today.

Now Dak isn't as physically gifted as an Aaron Rodgers, but MM has helped lesser talent thrive in this league at the position; Gannon, A. Brooks, M. Hasselbeck to name a few. He has a very successful track record with developing QB's. Let's be honest, Dak has worked with several QB coaches who don't have any close to MM's resume. Outside of Kitna, who was excellent helping young QB's out as a player, Dak really has had several unproven coaches. Many would argue Mark Sanchez helped Dak out the most in his early development.

Dak isn't a finished product by any means. Many forget that Romo sat on the sidelines for 2 full seasons learning the position, while Dak was thrown into the fire and performed so well, he actually stole Romo's job away from him. Nobody envisioned Dak even taking 1 rep as a rookie, yet the perfect storm happened and he seized his opportunity.

MM is the type of coach that potentially can take Dak's development to another level. Many will argue Dak is solid, but no where near elite by any means. We see post after post everyday here about him being not worth the money, that Dalton could be better at a lower cost, etc. MM chose this job specifically due to working with Dak Prescott. He could of went to the Giants, Browns who have young QB's, but decided to come to Dallas. Yes, he sees something special with Dak Prescott, if he believes this, the best is yet to come!
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The biggest thing I take away from MM is that he is the first person that has said we are going to tailor our offense to Daks strengths. Where as our prior coach was trying to turn Dak into a pocket passer like Romo. Typical Garrett trying to fit a square peg in a round hole because his philosophy and scheme was more important than success.
 
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If we're going to pay our QB top money then we better see similar results as other teams with elite QBs that have success year in and year out. Like Pitt, NE, Saints, Green Bay. Garrett is no longer the coach. No one to blame. I don't expect championships. But I expect 12-4 seasons year in and year out.
 
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RandyOh said:
Dak is more talented then his draft position. I believe he was seen by many as a 2nd round talent before his DUI cost him to drop out of Day 2. Dak is not done with his development and i would very much like to see what he becomes under Big Mac (if he would sign a darn contract already). Romo also played a big part in Daks amazing rookie season. Romo was literally making all the adjustments for Dak from the sidelines for him. Thats one thing i don't think Dak will ever surpass Romo on. Romos ability to read a defense is matched by only a few other QBs in history.
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We all love Romo but he was not even at the games for most of Daks rookie season. Mark Sanchez was the QB that was helping Dak the most. Yet another reason to have a Vet QB as your back up that has starting experience. Even thought Mark was not a great QB he had seen a lot and even though he rarely did what he was supposed to do he knew what he was supposed to do. Kudos to ownership for bringing a vet QB in to help Dak with those in and outs.
 

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If anyone saw Rodgers when he first came into the league he was terrible. Had the talent but his throws were not good. Hopefully MM can turn Dak into half of what Rodgers is as far a qb. Dak already has the intangibles that you can’t teach like leadership.
 
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MarcusRock said:
Oh yes they did. It's why Wentz was a rumored target and Paxton Lynch was a target before "settling" on Dak (after Connor Cook was a "settle" target).
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I think a lot of people rightly questioned if Romo would be able to stay healthy a full 16 games that off season. I went into that draft wanting the cowboys to draft a QB high to get Romo’s replacement if he couldn’t stay healthy.

admittedly, I didn’t think Dak would be anywhere close to as good as he has been. Pleasantly surprised for sure.
 
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RandyOh said:
Dak is more talented then his draft position. I believe he was seen by many as a 2nd round talent before his DUI cost him to drop out of Day 2. Dak is not done with his development and i would very much like to see what he becomes under Big Mac (if he would sign a darn contract already). Romo also played a big part in Daks amazing rookie season. Romo was literally making all the adjustments for Dak from the sidelines for him. Thats one thing i don't think Dak will ever surpass Romo on. Romos ability to read a defense is matched by only a few other QBs in history.
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Well if Romo could read defenses that well I’d think he would’ve had a far better career.
 
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408Cowboy said:
Garrett helped get Flynn paid as well.
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False, actually. After Flynn “got paid” he immediately lost the QB job in Seattle to Russell Wilson in 2012 and never started a game there. Flynn returned to the Packers in 2013 as a backup to play the infamous game against the Cowboys. He started the next week as well against Pittsburgh, and then never started another game in the NFL again. So the only thing Garrett got him was a pat on the back and a game ball.
The real answer to that question is Jim Schwartz.
 
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MarcusRock said:
Oh yes they did. It's why Wentz was a rumored target and Paxton Lynch was a target before "settling" on Dak (after Connor Cook was a "settle" target).
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Wentz was never in the team's plans due to the cost of moving up. The likes of Lynch and Cook were more developmental QB's as Romo was starting to show his age and struggled to stay healthy.
 
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ItzKelz said:
We all love Romo but he was not even at the games for most of Daks rookie season. Mark Sanchez was the QB that was helping Dak the most. Yet another reason to have a Vet QB as your back up that has starting experience. Even thought Mark was not a great QB he had seen a lot and even though he rarely did what he was supposed to do he knew what he was supposed to do. Kudos to ownership for bringing a vet QB in to help Dak with those in and outs.
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Dak has learned from all veteran QBs he’s had behind him but if there is one thing he learned from Romo it’s to read a defense and adjust the play.
 
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Well if Romo could read defenses that well I’d think he would’ve had a far better career.
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He played most of his career under the clapper calling the shots. Don’t care how talented you are individually if your coach can’t make any proper adjustments on offense or defense when it matters. Only so much Romo could do.
 
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phildadon86 said:
The biggest thing I take away from MM is that he is the first person that has said we are going to tailor our offense to Daks strengths. Where as our prior coach was trying to turn Dak into a pocket passer like Romo. Typical Garrett trying to fit a square peg in a round hole because his philosophy and scheme was more important than success.
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Yes, the offense that Dak was running was built more to Romo's strengths. Long, developing passing plays where Romo was excellent buying time navigating the pocket. The team rarely did use Dak's mobility to their advantage.
 
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