Twitter: Jamal Adams asks to be traded

Kwyn

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,636
Reaction score
6,894
Not when he’s almost up for a new deal. I don’t trade a first for a strong safety.
So, no safety in the first round, ever

And it would appear even if you were willing to draft one in the first you would never extend them no matter how good they are

You and I usually see eye to eye but on this one we are way different

Adams is precisely the type of player we need on this defense. He instantly becomes our best defender on a suspect squad when our offense is loaded up for a Super Bowl run

how many years do we wait for the planets to align before we pull the trigger and go all in
 

fivetwos

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,270
Reaction score
26,178
Whose to say we’d draft a safety?

maybe a stud DLinemen falls.... CB.... Olinemen

If you told me one draft that we’d snag Lamb where we did I’d laugh and tell you no chance.
That's a fair point. See what you mean.

Adams just looks too damn good in this defense. If he came here everyone would love the guy.

You're right though, its draft capital, bit at some point you gotta go for it as far as that final piece.

They need that vocal leader

Jaylon isnt it, Lawrence isnt it. Adams would be and that's not me just telling myself that.
 

Bowdown27

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,407
Reaction score
7,653
I didn’t backtrack and see if it’s posted but they said on Twitter that if he gets traded to certain team he wouldn’t need an extension this season. I’m assuming it’s us.
 

Kwyn

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,636
Reaction score
6,894
After seeing what happened that one season when Romo got hurt and we tanked to 4-12 that season I no longer start locking in safe bets for draft positions

Say it’s pick 4th overrall... still worth it?
Depends on what we need

Adams was #6 in 2016 and has lived up to his pick.

#4 that year was Leonard Fournette. You give me Adams, I’ll give you Fournette.

So yeah, I might

good thing though is if we have the fourth overall pick, we should blow it up because it means McCarthy was an absolute failure
 

fivetwos

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,270
Reaction score
26,178
It’s interesting how time goes on our FanZone NFL insider credentials grow.

so, it’s now. 1st and a third and Gallup

tomorrow it will be a 1st, a 3rd, Gallup and Diggs

By Saturday people here will be saying it’s a 1st, a 3rd, Gallup, Diggs and CeeDee
Nah man, I want this dude badly, but max price is a 1st and a 3rd.

Gallup will retire a Cowboy if I have anything to say about it.

When you make a final piece type trade, you cant move a starter at the same time.

All you did was fix one thing and break another.
 

Kwyn

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,636
Reaction score
6,894
Just repeating what was being reported at the time all this was happening. Not my fault you didn't see it. o_O

Nevertheless, it's a non-issue. The whole thing boils down to the fact that the Jets didn't even want a deal.
The Gallup story was a 1st and Gallup instead of 1st and a 3rd and the writer who posted it didn’t even say it was a rumor. He was just asking a hypothetical for the universe and fans here went insane like it was legit inside information
 

fivetwos

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,270
Reaction score
26,178
After seeing what happened that one season when Romo got hurt and we tanked to 4-12 that season I no longer start locking in safe bets for draft positions

Say it’s pick 4th overrall... still worth it?
We signed Dalton so that wouldnt happen.

You cant not trade draft picks because they may end up being high when everything reasonable points to it being a low pick.

If there were any signs it would be high, you arent in a position to make a trade like this anyway.
 

John813

Well-Known Member
Messages
22,259
Reaction score
34,097
I would sign him asap if they did acquire him. It'll be the Zeke deal all over again, in that they roll two signing bonuses hits into the rookie contract making his subsequent cap hits lower when his rookie year expires.
 

Bullflop

Cowboys Diehard
Messages
24,654
Reaction score
29,986
The Gallup story was a 1st and Gallup instead of 1st and a 3rd and the writer who posted it didn’t even say it was a rumor. He was just asking a hypothetical for the universe and fans here went insane like it was legit inside information

Do you really think the Jets were really serious about making a deal with the Cowboys? Another team would have taken the bait by now, if so.
Adams is desperately demanding a trade for a reason. The Jets aren't about to let him go, by all appearances.
 
Last edited:

fivetwos

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,270
Reaction score
26,178
I live in NY and know plenty of Jet fans.

Not one of them so far has said they want to move him for a 1st, a 3rd AND Gallup as I would suggest while debating what it would take.

Maybe that'll tell people something as far as what a player he is. We dont have a defensive player like him, and it's not close.

Now, Dallas couldn't possibly give up that much, nor should they, just saying as far as how they value him, so if they move him for only a first before this gets much uglier, it wont be a popular move.

The GM for the Jets doesn't own the team, so futility may happen in NY, but isn't acceptable. They lose their job.
 

Kwyn

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,636
Reaction score
6,894
Nah man, I want this dude badly, but max price is a 1st and a 3rd.

Gallup will retire a Cowboy if I have anything to say about it.

When you make a final piece type trade, you cant move a starter at the same time.

All you did was fix one thing and break another.
It just shows how crazy people get to prove a point

they dig in and say any cost is too high for whatever idea it is they oppose.

when the tide starts to shift against that opinion they create the strawman argument that the idea they oppose is something that isn’t even real

An example that won’t mention a name

everyone in any insider position Says a deal will likely be done at 35m

Once the board starts to inch up it’s consensus opinion past 30m, the ones who oppose the deal at any cost, inflate the demand to 40m

It’s just made up posturing to support a soft argument
 
  • Like
Reactions: BAT

Kwyn

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,636
Reaction score
6,894
Do you really think the Jets were really serious about making a deal with the Cowboys? Another team would have taken the bait by now, if so. Adams is desperately demanding a trade for a reason. The Jets aren't about to let him go, by all appearances.
We don’t even know if the Cowboys and Jets have talked about it since last season.

It’s quite possible the Jets aren’t even there yet where they are ready to pick up the phone and we don’t known the Cowboys level of interest

So, honestly, I have no idea
 
  • Like
Reactions: BAT

HappyOnions

Datwin
Messages
2,563
Reaction score
2,089
In a perfect world, trade Amari Cooper for Jamal Adams straight up.

Fills a need for both teams.
 

fivetwos

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,270
Reaction score
26,178
It just shows how crazy people get to prove a point

they dig in and say any cost is too high for whatever idea it is they oppose.

when the tide starts to shift against that opinion they create the strawman argument that the idea they oppose is something that isn’t even real

An example that won’t mention a name

everyone in any insider position Says a deal will likely be done at 35m

Once the board starts to inch up it’s consensus opinion past 30m, the ones who oppose the deal at any cost, inflate the demand to 40m

It’s just made up posturing to support a soft argument
I'm realistic enough to know that while I'm excited about this team this year, I know the defense isnt good enough come late January.

If Adams is added to what we already have, I think we have a chance to contend for the whole deal.

Last years Jets team was supposed to be awful, and they overachieved, especially defensively, and Adams was a huge part of that, but I cant prove it with interception statistics.

Either you know the player or you dont, and crapshoot draft picks are nothing up against a 24 year old that has already found his way to All Pro, not Pro Bowl.
 

Bullflop

Cowboys Diehard
Messages
24,654
Reaction score
29,986
We don’t even know if the Cowboys and Jets have talked about it since last season.

It’s quite possible the Jets aren’t even there yet where they are ready to pick up the phone and we don’t known the Cowboys level of interest

So, honestly, I have no idea

Good luck for the Jets to find someone. The Cowboys and them aren't on amiable terms since that happened. It'll be too much for whomever deciding to take 'em up on what they want. Obviously, the Dallas FO didn't want to pay a 1st and 3rd for any safety, assuming that's all it was. There's a fair chance they'll draft one next year if one suits their druthers. If not, the world keeps on turning.
 

fivetwos

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,270
Reaction score
26,178
Good luck for the Jets to find someone. The Cowboys and them aren't on amiable terms since that happened. It'll be too much for whomever deciding to take 'em up on what they want. Obviously, the Dallas FO didn't want to pay a 1st and 3rd for any safety, assuming that's all it was. There's a fair chance they'll draft one next year if one suits their druthers. If not, the world keeps on turning.
Right so NO WAY give up draft picks to KNOW the guy not only wont bust, but becomes All Pro.

Just draft one and take your chances. At least we don't have to pay him, so maybe we can keep the fat running back.

People have become too enamored with the draft itself and the entertainment therof.

At some point you need to go for it and try to win, not wait for a rookie to MAYBE develop.
 

Bullflop

Cowboys Diehard
Messages
24,654
Reaction score
29,986
Right so NO WAY give up draft picks to KNOW the guy not only wont bust, but becomes All Pro.

Just draft one and take your chances. At least we don't have to pay him, so maybe we can keep the fat running back.

People have become too enamored with the draft itself and the entertainment therof.

At some point you need to go for it and try to win, not wait for a rookie to MAYBE develop.

Ha-Ha Clinton Dix is certainly a worthwhile addition to what we had last year. Far too many of us are never satisfied. Relax. We might not even get to have a season this year, so no point in going into a frenzy over this. We'll have a better team and there's no guarantee one man would be the difference between us now and making the Super Bowl. There are too many teams with better chances than we have. Deal with it, if you can.
 

erod

Well-Known Member
Messages
37,860
Reaction score
58,431
Jamaal Adams is better than probably every player in next years draft.

He's incredible, and I'd be all for trading for him. No brainer.

However, I think there's a 75% chance no football will be played this year, so what's the point?
 
  • Like
Reactions: BAT

Teague31

Defender of the Star
Messages
17,641
Reaction score
21,837
Steven will offer up Kai Forbath and a conditional 7th and call it a honest offer
 
  • Like
Reactions: BAT

Kwyn

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,636
Reaction score
6,894
Ha-Ha Clinton Dix is certainly a worthwhile addition to what we had last year. Far too many of us are never satisfied. Relax. We might not even get to have a season this year, so no point in going into a frenzy over this. We'll have a better team and there's no guarantee one man would be the difference between us now and making the Super Bowl. There are too many teams with better chances than we have. Deal with it, if you can.
HaHa sucks and unfortunately we’re about to get a full season of it
 
Top