Gallimore's 1st step to QB is 1st step to Cowboys immortality

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He’s a chunk....love the quickness. But shelf the anointing oil. Kid has a lot to prove at the next level. But hey I’m all in on the big boy... course I have much more hope in ALL personnel now that all the so called “coaches” have been kicked to the curb and we have new blood in the system....bring it!!!
 

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Read and heard the same stuff about Trysten Hill last year. The biggest thing I see with Gallimore is a great first step and then no clue what to do after. Translation: Does Not Finish.

The biggest difference for me is passion and the fact that Gallimore started 14 games his final collegiate year and Hill only started 1. I'd have to hate your guts to not start an NFL-caliber 3Tech in college.
Gallimore will probably be a pure effort player in 2020. Which for a #3 DT is acceptable. As far as long term, its hard to tell. I wish he was a more fluid athlete. Ive said a few times, if Hill comes into camp completely dialed in he should soundly beat Gallimore for snaps. I truely believe that. However I dont believe for a second Hill will come into camp even remotely dialed in. I bet money on Hill getting cut before I bet it on him beating Gallimore
 

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My guess is he comes on as an early down rotation piece. Sort of like Woods.

If he can rush the passer that will be a shocker to me. I will be elated if he can control the run to start.

Same with Hill.

Not sure about that. I don't really expect there to be much room in the rotation for him this year unless he just excels. Our run stuffers are Poe and Woods. Our pass rushers are McCoy and Crawford. He's got to be better at one of those jobs than those four to get much playing time. Or at least a better combination of pass rusher and run stopper, since that's ideal.

I think it will be difficult for either him or Hill to find playing time unless someone is hurt, which is essentially why Hill got to play last year.
 

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Even with a crap article, its always good to get some player discussion going

It's a crap article.
Just throwing new material in the forum.

i'm not sure why you consider this a " crap article" .

Article sets several discussion player points and scenarios regarding DT personnel and what role Neville will best fit in and the competition he'll face for snaps,

:rolleyes:
 

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My guess is he comes on as an early down rotation piece. Sort of like Woods.

If he can rush the passer that will be a shocker to me. I will be elated if he can control the run to start.

Same with Hill.
His strength is actually supposed to be in his quickness and ability to get pressure up the middle, not in being a big bodied, run specialist like Woods. Accordingly, if he gets playing time it seems more likely it would be rotatIng in on passing downs in place of the much slower Poe.
 
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Not sure about that. I don't really expect there to be much room in the rotation for him this year unless he just excels. Our run stuffers are Poe and Woods. Our pass rushers are McCoy and Crawford. He's got to be better at one of those jobs than those four to get much playing time. Or at least a better combination of pass rusher and run stopper, since that's ideal.

I think it will be difficult for either him or Hill to find playing time unless someone is hurt, which is essentially why Hill got to play last year.

With the reduction of preseason games ( if not eventual cancellation) and the limitations of training camp sessions -and this not forgetting mini camps and OTA's cancellation. it's not gonna b convienent for Gallimore's introduction and learning adjustment into the NFL. This is gonna slow his development, imo .
And preseason is the perfect time for rookies and 2nd year players for development, imo.
And i see this playing into how much snaps ( or lack there of) he gets into the rotation.
 

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Great draft pick. Can't wait to see him next year after a year in the weight room. I have some pretty big expectations over the next few years. If Poe is indeed a one year rental, someone will need to step up.
 

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i'm not sure why you consider this a " crap article" .

Article sets several discussion player points and scenarios regarding DT personnel and what role Neville will best fit in and the competition he'll face for snaps,

:rolleyes:
I Just thought "The first step to immortality" line was a little overdramatic.
 

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- These are some statement and comments from this article that i found most interesting
as i do see the NFL allowing team roster to expand to around 75, if preseason is eventually cancelled altogether. (per NFL player union's request)

- And the team retaining Gallimore at 1 tech.. rather than the 3 tech which most projected him to be at the next NLF level. Especially considering run defense is not said to be a strength of Gallimore and that's the very trait of what the successful 1 tech does.

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Competing with Gallimore for those snaps will be Hill, Antwaun Woods, Tyrone Crawford and UDFA Garrett Marino.
Marino is a longshot to make the roster, unless Covid forces the NFL to expand from 53 players.
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With Hill being a complete wild card, drafted by a staff that is no longer around and a disappointing showing as a rookie, the path is clear for Gallimore to earn 30-40 snaps a game.
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The team seems inclined to move Gallimore to the 3T position instead of keeping him at the nose, but the rookie has the talent to do both depending on the situation. Tomsula will be able to be creative in his technique teaching.
 

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I'm buying into Gallimore based more on the show and display he put on at the Senior Bowl practices vs quality OL draft prospects,.. than what he impressively timed and measured out at the NFL Combine.
Here below are some more reviews and raves on Gallimore that were captured among media types at Senior Bowl practices.

https://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/seniorbowl2020practice.php

Oklahoma defensive tackle Neville Gallimore was another player who team evaluators said did well in their eyes on Tuesday. Gallimore is a quick interior rusher who can get upfield and give interior blockers problems in pass protection. Gallimore could be a good fit as a three-technique in a 4-3 defense and has the potential to be a steal on Day 2 during the 2020 NFL Draft.

Oklahoma defensive tackle Neville Gallimore had another good practice. Gallimore is a quick interior rusher who can get upfield and give interior blockers problems in pass protection. Gallimore could be a good fit as a three technique in a 4-3 defense with the potential to be a steal on Day 2 of the draft. He could be the next Grady Jarrett.
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https://www.nfl.com/news/2020-senio...inners-from-week-of-practice-0ap3000001098817

7 biggest winners from the week of Senior Bowl practices

Neville Gallimore, DT, Oklahoma. Gallimore benefited from Oklahoma's slanting, stemming defensive front that allowed him easier access to gaps and edges, but his production was still somewhat average. Personnel directors and scouts I spoke with worried about his ability to create disruption on his own. This week, Gallimore may have put some of those concerns to rest. He opened the door for teams to view him differently, at minimum. The former Sooner was able to translate his trademark high energy and athleticism into frequent pocket pressure in one-on-one drills. He also helped muddle lanes vs. the run. Gallimore might be a somewhat polarizing prospect, but this was a good week for him.
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What we learned from Matt Patricia, NFL scouts and more

From the scouts. As my notebook partner Lance Zierlein mentioned earlier in this piece, Oklahoma DT Neville Gallimore helped himself in Mobile this week. "He flashed some pass rush," said an AFC scout. "He's not the biggest guy, but he's pretty quick and several guys had trouble with him." Gallimore weighed in at 304 pounds on Tuesday and measured 6-foot-2. He's one of college football's most freakish athletes, having been clocked by the Sooners at a sub-4.8 40-yard dash, and can squat an amazing 800 pounds. ...
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https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2...y-3-of-practices-brycen-hopkins-adam-trautman

For defensive linemen, Oklahoma’s Neville Gallimore has made quite a bit of noise in all three days of camp. With Javon Kinlaw having left practices for precautionary measures, a strong argument could be made that Gallimore is now the best defensive player down in Mobile currently. He has looked every bit as good as he was on tape, showcasing acceleration off the snap, a high motor and ideal technique for the interior defensive line. Though he's competing with a handful of talented defensive tackles in this class, Gallimore should one of the first ones off the board.
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https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/senior-bowl-prospect-risers-and-fallers-at-each-position

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Riser: Neville Gallimore, Oklahoma

Two of my favorite interior defensive linemen this week, Javon Kinlaw and Marlon Davidson, are both now out of the Senior Bowl because of injuries, but their absence has allowed other players to shine, specifically Oklahoma defensive tackle Neville Gallimore. I haven't seen a player capable of blocking Gallimore in the one-on-one pass rush period as his combination of elite quickness, counter moves and natural leverage made him a singular wrecking crew throughout the week of practice. Gallimore is still a little shaky holding his own against double teams in the run game, but he has been truly dominant as a pass rusher, showing the juice and upside of a potential first-round pick.
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https://steelersdepot.com/2020/01/senior-bowl-practice-report-day-three-2/

Houston tackle Josh Jones continued to build on his standout week, bullying Strowbridge on his first rep, literally pinning him to the ground.
The matchup to see though was between Jones and Gallimore – two colossal titans crossing paths. Gallimore won this one though with an impressive bull rush, driving Jones at least five yards backwards.

– I like Oklahoma DT Neville Gallimore’s game but he has to get stronger against double-teams. Do see him washed out in the interior too often.
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https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/senior-bowl-prospects-at-positions-of-need-who-have-stood-out
The Ravens could use some more interior pass rushers and Gallimore has looked the part in Mobile. He logged seven sacks over the past two seasons. He's one of the most athletically-gifted defensive linemen in the class, standing in at 6-foot-2, 304 pounds with excellent agility and power.
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https://www.thephinsider.com/2020/1...sers-stock-up-stock-down-miami-dolphins-needs

Stock up: Neville Gallimore, defensive tackle, Oklahoma - There are questions about Gallimore and was his production at Oklahoma from scheme or from him, but he showed he has skills during the week. He was able to generate pressure up the middle, and he was effective against the run
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https://www.theringer.com/2020/1/24/21079648/senior-bowl-takeaways-impressions

Oklahoma defensive tackle Neville Gallimore was another big standout in defensive line drills this week. Gallimore (who ranks 25th on my Big Board) measured in at 6-foot-2, 304 pounds and showed off incredible explosiveness at the snap, regularly swiping, ripping, or spinning past opposing linemen to get into the pocket.
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https://www.stampedeblue.com/2020/1...ck-up-stock-down-for-the-guys-in-the-trenches

Neville Gallimore, DT, Oklahoma

Had Javon Kinlaw not stolen the show we all would have been talking about Gallimore. Gallimore showed great burst off the line much like the aforementioned defender but when comparing the two Gallimore doesn’t play with the same strength that Kinlaw possesses.

With that said Gallimore did a great job holding up at the point of attack on run plays and fought hard to maintain his gap responsibilities. Gallimore’s best position will be at 3-Tech in the NFL (if you need to brush up on exactly what that means you can click this link) as he struggled to use his quickness when lined up inside as a 1-Tech. I had a chance to talk with Gallimore after the second day of practice and he seemed like he was genuinely kind, he liked to laugh and he took some very odd questions in stride. As of today it’s hard to project where he may be selected but it wouldn’t be shocking to see this overly athletic behemoth wind up being selected on day one.
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@johndavogel tweet
Oklahoma IDL Neville Gallimore vs Michigan IOL Ben Brederson
Neville Gallimore is singlehandedly the most dominant defensive player the North has.
Watching him come off the field and Javon Kinlaw come on it is going to be just fun come Saturday.
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https://nflmocks.com/2020/01/21/senior-bowl-practice-notes-kinlaw-shine-day-one/

Neville Gallimore isn’t a good run defender, but when he’s asked to rush the passer, he absolutely dominates. He looked quick and powerful in day one at the Senior Bowl, doing away with most linemen in his way.
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Needs to get stronger to handle double teams but how can anyone not like his burst and ability to chase from backside.
 

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https://247sports.com/college/oklah...tic-Freaks-List-Bruce-Feldman-No-2-133641003/

“The Canadian import who grew up playing soccer, basketball and volleyball moves up one spot from last year,” Feldman wrote. “He’s down to 305 pounds from 330, but he bench presses 500 pounds and squats 800. He cleans 405.

The most impressive number of all is that he clocked a 4.76 in the 40. The fastest 300-pounder at this year’s NFL Scouting Combine—303-pound Quinnen Williams—ran a 4.83, which is remarkable.
 

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My guess is he comes on as an early down rotation piece. Sort of like Woods.

If he can rush the passer that will be a shocker to me. I will be elated if he can control the run to start.

Same with Hill.

Well put . . . it's clearly unusual for any rookie DT to enter the pro game and shine, insofar as the pass rush is concerned. Most often, they will have to be nurtured slowly, before everything begins to click. If Gallimore is an exception, so much the better but it's normally important for a newbie DT to pay his dues first, before it all comes together.

Trysten Hill has had a rough start. Whether he and Neville Gallimore eventually make the grade is anyone guess. Both have talent. If it turns out that either or both become Cowboys for keeps, great. They'll get their chances. I'm hoping both of them make it in the days to come. It sure looks like the days ahead are some that no one can predict with any degree of certainty. ;)
 
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One more point -- I was really impressed a while ago, reading about how Neville Gallimore has an 800-lb. squat lift to his credit. It's no small wonder why he has such an explosive first step and also why o-linemen have so much trouble keeping him in check. Sheesh -- I'm really looking forward to seeing him when he lines up on the defensive line. Hopefully, his run plugging will improve to match his pass rush in the months to come. His strength and quickness should really stand him in good stead, by the looks of things. He's quite the stout (6-2, 305) fireplug . . . :D
 

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With the reduction of preseason games ( if not eventual cancellation) and the limitations of training camp sessions -and this not forgetting mini camps and OTA's cancellation. it's not gonna b convienent for Gallimore's introduction and learning adjustment into the NFL. This is gonna slow his development, imo .
And preseason is the perfect time for rookies and 2nd year players for development, imo.
And i see this playing into how much snaps ( or lack there of) he gets into the rotation.

That is one thing nice about the veteran pickups we made in free agency. Most of them have some familiarity with what we are doing (mainly talking defense here), so it won't be tough on them to make the transition, although there will be some bumps.

Offensively, I don't know how many changes McCarthy will incorporate if there isn't much of a preseason because practically every player we've got on that side of the ball is only used to Garrett's system.
 

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What round did we draft him or is he udfa?

Dallas was fortunate enough to acquire him in the 3rd round. It was applauded as a steal, in itself. He'll be a 3-tech DT with the Cowboys, since his upside as a pass rushing DT is considerable. Being a rookie, it'll require time to develop his skill in the pro game. If Gallimore and Hill are destined to see any degree of action in 2020, it'll likely be in a rotational role, with Poe and McCoy as the starters.
 
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