Dak disappointed in Garrett and Kitna being let go

Brax · Jul 25, 2020

rocyaice said:
Kept the job because he played well enough to keep it. You guys can't use this narrative that "Oh there was no competition" without acknowledging that Dak and the team played well enough to keep Romo on the bench. That's just facts. If Dak was pedestrian Romo would've been brought back in. True or false?

You are twisting your narrative again, Dak drove the bus great in 2016 not sure anyone wanted a change at that point (if they are honest with themselves) and he deserved to play it out, I believe Romo acknowledged that. Dak kept the job because the FO and JG decided that there would be no competition going forward not because Dak kept anyone on the bench but because they were afraid of damaging Dak's psyche. Lets be honest there is no way Dak beats out Romo in 2017 for the starting job and you and everyone else knows this, the decision to cut Romo was in the FO view the best plan going forward with a young serviceable QB vs a aging vet that had multiple season lost to injury. I am by no means a Romo fan but the constant altering the reality that Dak was no more than a bus drive in 2016 is absurd in the least.

Brax · Jul 25, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
That's not completely true either. Romo was injured in the 1st quarter of the 1st preseason game and wasn't cleared by the medical staff to play until after week 11. By that time the Cowboys were on a 10 game winning streak. Romo missing 3 preseason games and 10 season games it was almost like being off for a complete season. The coaches knew there was a real chance for some rust and so because of that and not wanting to mess with the mojo they had going they stayed with Prescott. After the season the Cowboys weighed things and with a rookie B getting a 13-3 record and Romo piling up injuries they told him privately that they were going to release him. Word got out about this and after being released 2 teams made offers to him and CBS and Romo choose to go to the booth. After going there he later said he though he could still play but also said there was a good chance he would get injured again and by going to the booth he didn't have to worry about getting injured again. He also said after last season was over that if he was Jones he would have done the very same thing.
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All you say is pretty much true, and I agree the 2016 not many thought there should be a change and I believe Romo also stated that. But by not allowing a competition that you and everyone knows Dak could not win in 2017, the job was handed to Dak not Dak beating out anyone..

TheMarathonContinues · Jul 25, 2020

Brax said:
You are twisting your narrative again, Dak drove the bus great in 2016 not sure anyone wanted a change at that point (if they are honest with themselves) and he deserved to play it out, I believe Romo acknowledged that. Dak kept the job because the FO and JG decided that there would be no competition going forward not because Dak kept anyone on the bench but because they were afraid of damaging Dak's psyche. Lets be honest there is no way Dak beats out Romo in 2017 for the starting job and you and everyone else knows this, the decision to cut Romo was in the FO view the best plan going forward with a young serviceable QB vs a aging vet that had multiple season lost to injury. I am by no means a Romo fan but the constant altering the reality that Dak was no more than a bus drive in 2016 is absurd in the least.

They were afraid of damaging Dak's psyche? The hell? Where did you get that from? You have a article or proof of that or is that just your assumption?

And yeah Dak would've beat out Romo in 2017.....I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

And if you call what Dak did "driving the bus" then you should get a load of 2014 when Romo "drove the bus" and had arguably the best season of his career doing so.

Brax · Jul 25, 2020

OmerV said:
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The first part of your comment is true - he did get the job due to injury. The second part is misleading because it ignores why the team chose not to have an open competition, which was because Dak played well and Romo was aging and had spent the majority of 2 seasons injured.

You are correct by taking the route of not having a competition Dak could not win in 2017 the team went with a younger QB they believed could be a franchise player on the cheap and didn't have to worry about damaging his mindset. I am not sure with Romo's past injury problems they made the wrong call but to pretend Dak beat out anyone except the scrubs brought in a back ups is blatantly false IMO.

gjkoeppen · Jul 25, 2020

Brax said:
You are twisting your narrative again, Dak drove the bus great in 2016 not sure anyone wanted a change at that point (if they are honest with themselves) and he deserved to play it out, I believe Romo acknowledged that. Dak kept the job because the FO and JG decided that there would be no competition going forward not because Dak kept anyone on the bench but because they were afraid of damaging Dak's psyche. Lets be honest there is no way Dak beats out Romo in 2017 for the starting job and you and everyone else knows this, the decision to cut Romo was in the FO view the best plan going forward with a young serviceable QB vs a aging vet that had multiple season lost to injury. I am by no means a Romo fan but the constant altering the reality that Dak was no more than a bus drive in 2016 is absurd in the least.

You explained what happen exactly. After the 2016 season everyone evaluated everything. Prescott a rookie just came off a 13-3 season and Romo wasn't cleared to play by the medical staff until after week 11 and didn't get in until the final game. The coaches and Jones looked at Romo and over the past two seasons didn't play in 27 of the last 32 season games and had been injured 3 other seasons so they had a meeting with Romo and told him they were going to release him and do it early so if he had desires to continue playing he would have time to sign with another team before mini camps and OTA's. CBS some how got wind about Romo goin to get released and offered him his job. Romo turned down offers from 2 teams after he was officially released and took the job with CBS. He later said that he though he could still play but also thought there was a good chance of getting injured again and he was glad that he no longer had to worry about getting injured. After last season ended he said that if he was Jones he would have done the same exact thing with him. So Romo thinks Jones made the right decision to release him. He's also said that he wished he could have won a ring with the Cowboys.
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Brax · Jul 25, 2020

rocyaice said:
They were afraid of damaging Dak's psyche? The hell? Where did you get that from? You have a article or proof of that or is that just your assumption?

And yeah Dak would've beat out Romo in 2017.....I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

And if you call what Dak did "driving the bus" then you should get a load of 2014 when Romo "drove the bus" and had arguably the best season of his career doing so.

Your problem is your Dak blindness, and there is no help for it. DMN and other articles are available.

gjkoeppen · Jul 25, 2020

Brax said:
All you say is pretty much true, and I agree the 2016 not many thought there should be a change and I believe Romo also stated that. But by not allowing a competition that you and everyone knows Dak could not win in 2017, the job was handed to Dak not Dak beating out anyone..

There was no competition in 2017 because of all the games Romo missed the previous 2 seasons due to injury they decided long before free agency started that they weren't going forward with a QB that missed 27 out of the last 32 games because of injury. If Romo had just missed the games in 2016 and didn't have the injury history he had, there very well may have been some competition because the Cowboys may have decided to keep Romo, but he missed just to much the past couple of season for them to risk attaching their wagon on that pony. That's why there wasn't any competition.
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Brax · Jul 25, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
You explained what happen exactly. After the 2016 season everyone evaluated everything. Prescott a rookie just came off a 13-3 season and Romo wasn't cleared to play by the medical staff until after week 11 and didn't get in until the final game. The coaches and Jones looked at Romo and over the past two seasons didn't play in 27 of the last 32 season games and had been injured 3 other seasons so they had a meeting with Romo and told him they were going to release him and do it early so if he had desires to continue playing he would have time to sign with another team before mini camps and OTA's. CBS some how got wind about Romo goin to get released and offered him his job. Romo turned down offers from 2 teams after he was officially released and took the job with CBS. He later said that he though he could still play but also thought there was a good chance of getting injured again and he was glad that he no longer had to worry about getting injured. After last season ended he said that if he was Jones he would have done the same exact thing with him. So Romo thinks Jones made the right decision to release him. He's also said that he wished he could have won a ring with the Cowboys.
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I believe that you or just about anyone else would of made the same call based on Romo's health history. I just don't like the false narrative some try to spin it to.

SteveTheCowboy · Jul 25, 2020

Brax said:
You are twisting your narrative again, Dak drove the bus great in 2016 not sure anyone wanted a change at that point (if they are honest with themselves) and he deserved to play it out, I believe Romo acknowledged that. Dak kept the job because the FO and JG decided that there would be no competition going forward not because Dak kept anyone on the bench but because they were afraid of damaging Dak's psyche. Lets be honest there is no way Dak beats out Romo in 2017 for the starting job and you and everyone else knows this, the decision to cut Romo was in the FO view the best plan going forward with a young serviceable QB vs a aging vet that had multiple season lost to injury. I am by no means a Romo fan but the constant altering the reality that Dak was no more than a bus drive in 2016 is absurd in the least.

Why wouldn't you be a Romo fan?

I could see maybe someone like Greg Hardy. But Tony? I know...he "didn't get it done" but the guy played his heart out for us.

Runwildboys · Jul 25, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
You were the one that said that Prescott had such great receivers and I proved that his #1 receiver for 2 out of the 3 years he played with Prescott wasn't that great. I know you don't like when someone puts holes in your arguments.
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"Holes". Believe what you want.

mahoneybill · Jul 25, 2020

StarBoyz83 said:
I dont see a rebuild. I think dallas can be contenders in 2-3 years.

I hope so. Will be interesting to see how a coach who has been to the championship and won the SB will manage this team.

Parcells started down the path and then left. Hopefully McCarthy will stay and deliver...

PJTHEDOORS · Jul 25, 2020

Brax said:
Your problem is your Dak blindness, and there is no help for it. DMN and other articles are available.

Nah just your perception.

mahoneybill · Jul 25, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
You explained what happen exactly. After the 2016 season everyone evaluated everything. Prescott a rookie just came off a 13-3 season and Romo wasn't cleared to play by the medical staff until after week 11 and didn't get in until the final game. The coaches and Jones looked at Romo and over the past two seasons didn't play in 27 of the last 32 season games and had been injured 3 other seasons so they had a meeting with Romo and told him they were going to release him and do it early so if he had desires to continue playing he would have time to sign with another team before mini camps and OTA's. CBS some how got wind about Romo goin to get released and offered him his job. Romo turned down offers from 2 teams after he was officially released and took the job with CBS. He later said that he though he could still play but also thought there was a good chance of getting injured again and he was glad that he no longer had to worry about getting injured. After last season ended he said that if he was Jones he would have done the same exact thing with him. So Romo thinks Jones made the right decision to release him. He's also said that he wished he could have won a ring with the Cowboys.
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Tony gave his all for the team, some stinkers of games, some great ones, and to me but for a D that could shut down the opposition before halftime and could end a game could have taken us to the NFC championship game and possibly beyond.

He will go down along with Danny White who did get us to NFC championships as a part of the missed opportunities over the last 20+ years of the Jones era.

Jimmy J was a godsend and would have in all likelihood added to the ring count if he had stayed. He certainly would have gotten the one Switzer won.

OmerV · Jul 25, 2020

Brax said:
You are correct by taking the route of not having a competition Dak could not win in 2017 the team went with a younger QB they believed could be a franchise player on the cheap and didn't have to worry about damaging his mindset. I am not sure with Romo's past injury problems they made the wrong call but to pretend Dak beat out anyone except the scrubs brought in a back ups is blatantly false IMO.

I didn’t say Dak “beat out” Romo, I said your post was misleading because it just said the team wouldn’t hold an open competition, and failed to indicate there was a reason for that choice. I was merely saying there was a reason - because Dak played well AND because of Romo aging and being injured so much. I thought it was pretty clear that I was just setting the record straight on that point.

starfan1 · Jul 25, 2020

Kitna ok I get behind his disappointment! but Garrett ?

man up Dak get ready for 2020 football . If there is any

shabazz · Jul 25, 2020

Thank God that all this debate is now moot

It should be very clear that MM and the FO is spoken loud and clear that Dakota is not the future.....at least to people that are able to admit the reality of the situation

I wish The Cowboys all the best and if they reach the SB, I have no problem extending players that truly made the difference.

OmerV · Jul 25, 2020

shabazz said:
Thank God that all this debate is now moot

It should be very clear that MM and the FO is spoken loud and clear that Dakota is not the future.....at least to people that are able to admit the reality of the situation

I wish The Cowboys all the best and if they reach the SB, I have no problem extending players that truly made the difference.

Like they decided Lawrence wasn’t the future when they let him play on the franchise tag? Sorry, but your logic doesn’t hold water because the team has already proven it will give a big contract to a player after he plays a season on the franchise tag.

shabazz · Jul 25, 2020

OmerV said:
Like they decided Lawrence wasn’t the future when they let him play on the franchise tag? Sorry, but your logic doesn’t hold water because the team has already proven it will give a big contract to a player after he plays a season on the franchise tag.

You’re just not seeing the inevitable......he’s outta here after this year

MM doesn’t tolerate mediocrity at the Qb position

Your one of those people that guaranteed us that Dakota would have a contract a year ago

OmerV · Jul 25, 2020

starfan1 said:
Kitna ok I get behind his disappointment! but Garrett ?

man up Dak get ready for 2020 football . If there is any

Would you expect him to say he’s glad Garrett was fired and make some disparaging comments? Remember, these kinds of comments come from the media asking questions. Dak didn’t hold a press conference or go,out of his way to make this point. Besides, regardless of what Dak thought of Garrett as a coach, it appeared they enjoyed being around each other.

OmerV · Jul 25, 2020

shabazz said:
You’re just not seeing the inevitable......he’s outta here after this year

MM doesn’t tolerate mediocrity at the Qb position

Your one of those people that guaranteed us that Dakota would have a contract a year ago

He may be, but that isn’t certain. History has proven you wrong about the way the team views a player who spends a season under the tag. I’m also pretty certain that history would show your personal view of players doesn’t always align with the view of the coach and management.

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