News: NSZ: Does Dak Prescott not want to play for Dallas Cowboys anymore?

CowboyFrog · Jul 27, 2020

ninja said:
I repeat, no team will offer Dak more than the Cowboys did. Dak's endorsement money will plummet if he leaves the Cowboys.
Maybe some people have to learn the hard way.

Who knows, maybe Daniel Jones will stink up the joint in NY and the Giants will go all in for Dak next year. I guess it could happen

So you think that as the years go bye the salary's are going to go down? There is an easy way to judge this how bout do you think the next Winning QB signed will get less than what Dallas offered Dak? Endorsement money would go down though from most teams not all.

Jarv · Jul 27, 2020

Can loyalty be bought is the driving question.

buybuydandavis · Jul 27, 2020

Reality said:
The Dak Prescott and Dallas Cowboys drama is far from over.

Crap Dak Drama article of 100% spin and conjecture. And it's the kind of thing we can expect writers to throw out every slow news day.

I've wanted to trade him now, but the shortened to non-existent schedule before season start would make that a season throwaway move, even with Dalton. Ugh.

So not only has his asking price increased, but there’s no way he will want to sign a five-year deal now that he was forced to play on the tag already.

And if he signs a 4 year deal next year, we will have gotten him for 5 years.

I think it's likely he doesn't sign next year, and wasn't going to sign next year anyway. The outcome I don't want to see next year is Dak playing on a 2nd tag as a clear short timer inevitably heading out the door. And yet, that's likely what happens.

Swagger · Jul 27, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
Wait Coach, soo your saying they play this game for money...... no way I thought they should take whatever the team offers because they LOVE THE TEAM...
Man some of you should go into work tomorrow and down size your pay because it looks bad you getting as much as you can to do your job....

This really isn't hard like the above examples this is THEIR JOB they go where they get paid the most to do THEIR JOB everything else is just us as fans hoping they care about the logo as much as we do....

People are not suggesting that he takes a home town discount. He wasn't offered $25 million a year. Prescott's offer was in line with what other quarterbacks have been paid this year and last (excluding Mahomes). If he wants to be overpaid then he will have to play for another team. There is a difference between being paid and overpaid.

CowboyFrog · Jul 27, 2020

Swagger said:
People are not suggesting that he takes a home town discount. He wasn't offered $25 million a year. Prescott's offer was in line with what other quarterbacks have been paid this year and last (excluding Mahomes). If he wants to be overpaid then he will have to play for another team. There is a difference between being paid and overpaid.

I mean again your argument is because we don't pay him what another team will then he is overpaid, its just another way of you saying take my value or your wrong on what your value is....is it not?

so in other words even if he has a better offer you would want him to take your offer which is lower...so a discount.

Swagger · Jul 27, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
I mean again your argument is because we don't pay him what another team will then he is overpaid, its just another way of you saying take my value or your wrong on what your value is....is it not?

so in other words even if he has a better offer you would want him to take your offer which is lower...so a discount.

Arguably any player in the league could be overpaid by another team but they accept being well paid by the team they currently play for due to their own personal reasons.

I could go out and leave the company I currently work and earn more money elsewhere. Like a lot of people I get tapped up and I know I could earn more money elsewhere and most people are in the same situation. But if you are happy in your job and with the prospects then not everyone is infatuated with continually jumping ship for a bit more money. I'm paid a fair and competitive salary in comparison to the market which I know like the back of my hand because I work in recruitment, yet I could be overpaid elsewhere.

If Prescott was offered, as has been widely reported, circa $35 million a year over 5 years with around $110 million guaranteed then that isn't a home town discount in comparison to the market.

If you look at all the quarterbacks that have been signed this year and last, objectively it's a good not amazing offer. Mahomes is a one off and his contract is structured in a completely different manner. Watson is more important to the Texans than Prescott is to the Cowboys due to the poor history of QB's at that franchise and what he brings to the table. He is their offense. Jackson brings a unique skill set to the Ravens and has transformed their offense. It seems as though Prescott is comparing his worth to the Cowboys with those three guys and what they bring to their franchise and not with guys like Tannehill, Wentz, Goff, Cousins or even Russell Wilson. I think that's the disconnect between Prescott and the Cowboys front office. For those on here who view Prescott as important to the Cowboys as Mahomes, Watson or Jackson are to their respective franchises...then that's where I completely disagree with you as well.

TwoCentPlain · Jul 27, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
So you think that as the years go bye the salary's are going to go down? There is an easy way to judge this how bout do you think the next Winning QB signed will get less than what Dallas offered Dak? Endorsement money would go down though from most teams not all.

Does not matter if salary goes up or down. What matters is no other team will offer Dak the money the Cowboys offered. No team out there will offer $30M+ for Dak in my opinion. Dak gets $7M in endorsements for being the QB of the Cowboys. He gets 1/7th of that if he leaves for another team in my opinion. I doubt the Cowboys are in a bidding war with other teams for Dak come next year.

Yes, I do think salaries will go down next year and the following years. I believe fan attendance will decrease and many fans will stream the games for free (like I do).

CowboyFrog · Jul 27, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
I mean again your argument is because we don't pay him what another team will then he is overpaid, its just another way of you saying take my value or your wrong on what your value is....is it not?

Swagger said:
Arguably any player in the league could be overpaid by another team but they accept being well paid by the team they currently play for due to their own personal reasons.

I could go out and leave the company I currently work and earn more money elsewhere. Like a lot of people I get tapped up and I know I could earn more money elsewhere and most people are in the same situation. But if you are happy in your job and with the prospects then not everyone is infatuated with continually jumping ship for a bit more money. I'm paid a fair and competitive salary in comparison to the market which I know like the back of my hand because I work in recruitment, yet I could be overpaid elsewhere.

If Prescott was offered, as has been widely reported, circa $35 million a year over 5 years with around $110 million guaranteed then that isn't a home town discount in comparison to the market.

If you look at all the quarterbacks that have been signed this year and last, objectively it's a good not amazing offer. Mahomes is a one off and his contract is structured in a completely different manner. Watson is more important to the Texans than Prescott is to the Cowboys due to the poor history of QB's at that franchise and what he brings to the table. He is their offense. Jackson brings a unique skill set to the Ravens and has transformed their offense. It seems as though Prescott is comparing his worth to the Cowboys with those three guys and what they bring to their franchise and not with guys like Tannehill, Wentz, Goff, Cousins or even Russell Wilson. I think that's the disconnect between Prescott and the Cowboys front office. For those on here who view Prescott as important to the Cowboys as Mahomes, Watson or Jackson are to their respective franchises...then that's where I completely disagree with you as well.

your welcome to disagree, the point is if you ask someone to take less than what they can get somewhere else that's a discount...is it not? you can simply say yes or no everything else is just market pricing which is a whole other conversation. I didn't say the offer was fair or unfair i said anyone who says Prescott should take the Cowboys deal because if he doesn't he looks greedy is asking him to take a discount on what he believes he can get elsewhere.

If you want to argue the best scenario is to let him walk and take your chances .....again this has nothing to do with a discount this has to do with your opinion of his supply and demand worth. I happen to think he is a better option than anything they could get right now. We don't know what his demand is because he hasn't hit the open market...

overpaid is only relevant to the person paying, if the company you leave to take more money says the other overpaid you its really hollow as the only person who actually can feel like they overpaid is the person actually paying you. Regardless Jerry pays his players we can have opinions on their worth but the definition of worth is what you actually received for said service, object, ect....

I'm sure you didn't read all of this as I wouldn't either so to one line it....Dak Prescott is the commodity, Dak's camp is selling the commodity at said price, if your asking them to take a lower amount..that's a discount (years or money or whatever) .....to argue why you want the discount you use market analysis...(the other qb's) since only Jerry is bidding for Dak he can't overpay all he can do is pay Dak's asking price or get Dak to give him a discount.....When others are in the Market well now we can put your theory of who will pay what to the test

OmerV · Jul 27, 2020

Jarv said:
Can loyalty be bought is the driving question.

The team is no more loyal than players. People like to think of the NFL in the same way they think of high school football, but this is a business to the owners, and an occupation to the players. That's not to say some level of loyalty can't be built, but it's not the same. Both sides will walk away from the other if they don't feel the relationship is working as well as it should be.

CouchCoach · Jul 27, 2020

ninja said:
Does not matter if salary goes up or down. What matters is no other team will offer Dak the money the Cowboys offered. No team out there will offer $30M+ for Dak in my opinion. Dak gets $7M in endorsements for being the QB of the Cowboys. He gets 1/7th of that if he leaves for another team in my opinion. I doubt the Cowboys are in a bidding war with other teams for Dak come next year.

Yes, I do think salaries will go down next year and the following years. I believe fan attendance will decrease and many fans will stream the games for free (like I do).

What we don't know is what teams might be interested in him and at what price.

And other teams have different variables and I am not aware of another team with as many players in the top 6 paid at their position as the Cowboys.

I don't know what the final offer was but I do think the sticking point with Prescott was the length of it and maybe the guarantee. QB's, except for the one in KC, seem to more interested in the 3-4 year variety and there must be a good reason for that with these agents anticipating something in 2024.

TwoCentPlain · Jul 27, 2020

CouchCoach said:
What we don't know is what teams might be interested in him and at what price.

And other teams have different variables and I am not aware of another team with as many players in the top 6 paid at their position as the Cowboys.

I don't know what the final offer was but I do think the sticking point with Prescott was the length of it and maybe the guarantee. QB's, except for the one in KC, seem to more interested in the 3-4 year variety and there must be a good reason for that with these agents anticipating something in 2024.

Whatever the agents were anticipating went out the window a few months ago. If the cap falls to $175M next year which I think is quite possible, then all market prices tank. I think the league is in for a very unpleasant surprise with revenue the next 4 years.

kskboys · Jul 27, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
Pinch pennies with him..... Wow.

Exactly what I was thinking.

One of the poorest summations by a writer I've ever seen. Dude should be fired over that. Fake news.

kskboys · Jul 27, 2020

CouchCoach said:
What we don't know is what teams might be interested in him and at what price.

And other teams have different variables and I am not aware of another team with as many players in the top 6 paid at their position as the Cowboys.

I don't know what the final offer was but I do think the sticking point with Prescott was the length of it and maybe the guarantee. QB's, except for the one in KC, seem to more interested in the 3-4 year variety and there must be a good reason for that with these agents anticipating something in 2024.

If that was really the sticking point, then he simply doesn't want to be here. Very weak excuse by him.

kskboys · Jul 27, 2020

glimmerman said:
Why did he say he was happy and proud to still be a Dallas Cowboy. Even posted that kool picture of him in a Cowboys hat.. maybe he will get a big star tattooed on him. Him and Elliot can go together.

Prolly because he noticed the fans are starting to hate him.

black label · Jul 27, 2020

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kskboys · Jul 27, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
your welcome to disagree, the point is if you ask someone to take less than what they can get somewhere else that's a discount...is it not? you can simply say yes or no everything else is just market pricing which is a whole other conversation. I didn't say the offer was fair or unfair i said anyone who says Prescott should take the Cowboys deal because if he doesn't he looks greedy is asking him to take a discount on what he believes he can get elsewhere.

If you want to argue the best scenario is to let him walk and take your chances .....again this has nothing to do with a discount this has to do with your opinion of his supply and demand worth. I happen to think he is a better option than anything they could get right now. We don't know what his demand is because he hasn't hit the open market...

overpaid is only relevant to the person paying, if the company you leave to take more money says the other overpaid you its really hollow as the only person who actually can feel like they overpaid is the person actually paying you. Regardless Jerry pays his players we can have opinions on their worth but the definition of worth is what you actually received for said service, object, ect....

I'm sure you didn't read all of this as I wouldn't either so to one line it....Dak Prescott is the commodity, Dak's camp is selling the commodity at said price, if your asking them to take a lower amount..that's a discount (years or money or whatever) .....to argue why you want the discount you use market analysis...(the other qb's) since only Jerry is bidding for Dak he can't overpay all he can do is pay Dak's asking price or get Dak to give him a discount.....When others are in the Market well now we can put your theory of who will pay what to the test

The amount offered was not a discount.

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