The Case for Brandon Carr

Carr was just average when he was here and now at 34 years old ? No thanks.

Silverstar said:

What do you guys think of safety Sean Davis?

With the Stealers last 4 years and was released by Washington yesterday.

I'm a little intrigued.

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I'd be intrigued by him.

darthseinfeld said:

As long as we sign him to play CB and not Safety. I know fans get excited about playing a CB at S but it never works out for us

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Hmmm, ever heard of Charlie Waters?

He still owes Jerry some snaps on that last 50 million dollar contract he gave him?

carr could be a serviceable safety in a pinch, especially if the ball is played in front of him.

cern said:

carr could be a serviceable safety in a pinch, especially if the ball is played in front of him.

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That’s my thinking. Most reports I’ve read he graded out positively playing safety.

If you keep him at SS and Woods at FS it could be manageable. He’s not ET. But he is a leader, veteran and durable as hell. Plus he would be on the cheap.

Furboy said:

I'd be intrigued by him.

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2016 2nd round pick with good size/speed and plenty of starting experience including 4 playoff games.
Has played both safety positions and has 5 INT's in 41 starts. I think he could beat out Thompson.

JMO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Davis_(American_football)

Should have held on to Jeff Heath.

And, yes, for the umpteenth time...

I told ya so.

Carr is a very high character guy. He also plays every week. With a young secondary I think his leadership will be a big plus. I also think Carr can contribute as a S. He was never a fluid guy but he competes. I also think his straight line speed is there.

JustChip said:

Hmmm, ever heard of Charlie Waters?

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That was 40 years ago

Beastsfromthenfceast said:

Carr was just average when he was here and now at 34 years old ? No thanks.

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I don't think you've got a clue as to what average is.

When you've been a starter in every game for 12 years over three teams, you are clearly playing at a level that exceeds average.

Pantone282C said:

We may not need a true safety if we play a bunch of nickel and dime packages.

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Well said indeed my friend

darthseinfeld said:

That was 40 years ago

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Verily. But that still means it’s not “never”

CT Dal Fan said:

Carr was Thomas' teammate last year. The Cowboys should be asking Carr "Is this dude crazy? Should we sign him?"

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Carr's reply "He's a nutbag, sign Me instead"

Kaiser said:

I like the option of Brandon Carr at Safety over Earl Thomas from what we know right now. Some points in Carr’s favor –

1 – the Dallas scheme now plays deep safeties that are now closer to the CB position than the interchangeable SS/FS style the old scheme featured.

2 – Carr has always been a team leader while ET left the Ravens under ehem…..very unfavorable circumstances.

3 – Carr is very dependable, he has played 192 of 192 games in his 11 seasons. Thomas has had major injuries and hasn’t started all 16 games in five years. Carr is 34 but Dallas once thought Terrence Newman was washed up at that age and he started for another six seasons in the NFL.

4 – Carr made 6 Million for each of the last three years and would likely take less than that now on a deal that was mostly incentives. If ET chased Garrett into the tunnel to ask him to sign him, only to take the highest bid in Baltimore, it doesn’t make me think he will back off high contract demands. ET is clearly about taking the most money. We have the money, but that isn’t really the personality this coaching staff wants.

5 – ET’s play dropped off last year and plenty of CBs have extended their careers moving to Safety like Carr would in this move.

6 – Carr already played some safety last season and Darryl Worley can play safety early in the season, I don’t worry about either Carr or ET being able to step into the lineup after a game or two.

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When did Carr become a safety?

jjktkk said:

When did Carr become a safety?

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Last year

Too lazy to look it up, but on the radio they said Carr graded out as #7 when he played Safety last season.

JustChip said:

Verily. But that still means it’s not “never”

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There are more recent examples. Ronnie Lott, Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson, Devin Mccourty. But those are supreme talents. With barely adequate CB's, it just doesnt work out

This is a pretty interesting situation to me. I may not have everything completely right with all the new PS rules this year, but it looks like an absolute steal for Cowboys if it works out the way it's looking.

This situation breaks out into two parts and is also full of speculation on my part, but we'll see.

Part One: Carr as a Player
Carr seems to have played pretty well as a safety last year, but I think we know he won't necessarily be a game changer, but if what Fish is saying holds true, then the risk is so low that it doesn't matter. If Carr is agreeing to be a PS player, then he doesn't even take up a roster spot. This year there are allowances for 2 players to be brought up from the PS to the team to play each week, then moved back down. This essentially gives us another viable option to put out there without it even costing us a roster spot. I do find it shocking the Carr would agree to this, but it gives us the option on game day to put him in. Another bonus is his locker room presence and his mentoring ability without a roster spot being used or any significant money. If this comes to pass, it's a big win.

Part Two: How it relates to Earl Thomas
If the agreement is in place where Carr somehow agrees to be a PS player for Dallas, then it is also obvious that the staff would pick Carr's brain for a genuine view of the Earl Thomas situation. Carr is well regarded as an honest and stand up guy and would give his true opinion of the events. To a point that if Carr gives the ok, then I think Dallas would also make that move. We have heard enough stories that the "team" wanted Earl gone, but we also know that the team is made up of individuals. Regardless of what the overall vote was, I'd like the FO to hear Carr's take on the situation. If Earl is a bad as has been reported, then I'm sure Carr would back that up and we'd say no to Earl. On the other hand, if Carr provides enough context and details to make Dallas ok with it, then I'd trust Carr's opinion as he was close to the situation.

TL;DR version. We may end up with both of them, and that would be great!

How many INT'S did Carr have when he was here ? Um , I think I can count them on my left hand.