The Case for Brandon Carr

[Kaiser]

I like the option of Brandon Carr at Safety over Earl Thomas from what we know right now. Some points in Carr’s favor –

1 – the Dallas scheme now plays deep safeties that are now closer to the CB position than the interchangeable SS/FS style the old scheme featured.

2 – Carr has always been a team leader while ET left the Ravens under ehem…..very unfavorable circumstances.

3 – Carr is very dependable, he has played 192 of 192 games in his 11 seasons. Thomas has had major injuries and hasn’t started all 16 games in five years. Carr is 34 but Dallas once thought Terrence Newman was washed up at that age and he started for another six seasons in the NFL.

4 – Carr made 6 Million for each of the last three years and would likely take less than that now on a deal that was mostly incentives. If ET chased Garrett into the tunnel to ask him to sign him, only to take the highest bid in Baltimore, it doesn’t make me think he will back off high contract demands. ET is clearly about taking the most money. We have the money, but that isn’t really the personality this coaching staff wants.

5 – ET’s play dropped off last year and plenty of CBs have extended their careers moving to Safety like Carr would in this move.

6 – Carr already played some safety last season and Darryl Worley can play safety early in the season, I don’t worry about either Carr or ET being able to step into the lineup after a game or two.

 

[Jipper]

Like everything you have to say! Except that one key point....ET is a safety and Carr is a converted cb....but all of the points are very sound

 

[Teague31]

As soon as he gives back the 5 years worth of salary he stole from us, sure

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

The narrative that Earl Thomas’ play has declined to a significant degree is just as wrong. He graded as PFF’s #12 overall S and within top 3 for coverage last year. Give me ET all day over Carr. For one year, I simply don’t care if anyone in the locker room likes him. I want a true S who can play and create turnovers.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

The narrative that Earl Thomas’ play has declined to a significant degree is just as wrong. He graded as PFF’s #12 overall S and within top 3 for coverage last year. Give me ET all day over Carr. For one year, I simply don’t care if anyone in the locker room likes him. I want a true S who can play and create turnovers.

They claim ET is washed up at 31 but want Carr at 34, lulz.

 

[Pantone282C]

We may not need a true safety if we play a bunch of nickel and dime packages.

 

[JoeKing]

We don't need a 34 y/o roaming around as our last line of defense. T-New was the exception, not the rule to age vs performance in the NFL. We know from his previous stint here that Carr is no T-New.

 

[KingintheNorth]

They claim ET is washed up at 31 but want Carr at 34, lulz.

Also, the Ravens moved on from Carr before they moved on from Thomas.

 

[Kaiser]

They claim ET is washed up at 31 but want Carr at 34, lulz.

A cow college gave someone a degree with that level of reading comprehension, lulz.

 

[Kaiser]

We may not need a true safety if we play a bunch of nickel and dime packages.

Exactly, Worley played a lot of both spots last year on passing downs. Woods played slot CB as a rookie because of injuries to others. There isn't a big difference between the two positions in those packages, especially in the new scheme we have.

 

[RS12]

How about no.

 

[Kaiser]

We don't need a 34 y/o roaming around as our last line of defense. T-New was the exception, not the rule to age vs performance in the NFL. We know from his previous stint here that Carr is no T-New.

There was nothing wrong with Carr in his stint here other than his paycheck. He was a good #2 who was overpaid as a FA #1 because Dallas was desperate for a starter that year. And they were desperate because Newman and Mike Jenkins both dropped off considerably the previous year.

 

[Alexander]

As soon as he gives back the 5 years worth of salary he stole from us, sure

Nobody put a gun to Stephen Jones' head.

It always amuses me when people get mad at what the Joneses spend when it does not pay off.

It is on their intellectual shortfalls, nobody else's.

It is not your money. There is no "us".

 

[bewp7]

why didnt the almighty genius ravens re sign him? since they know everything and all.

 

[blueblood70]

pass for now if we get desperate

im sure he will be out there avaiable..

 

[Alexander]

why didnt the almighty genius ravens re sign him? since they know everything and all.

If he is so good, why is he available?

 

[Kaiser]

why didnt the almighty genius ravens re sign him? since they know everything and all.

Because they were already on the hook for paying Marcus Peters 15 Million this year, Tavon Young 8MM, ET 15 Million, etc.

This is like the Randall Cobb signing. I'd rather have a solid guy at a decent contract than gamble on performance and attitude for three times as much money.

 

[JoeKing]

There was nothing wrong with Carr in his stint here other than his paycheck. He was a good #2 who was overpaid as a FA #1 because Dallas was desperate for a starter that year. And they were desperate because Newman and Mike Jenkins both dropped off considerably the previous year.

He's not that anymore. We know what he used to be.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

A cow college gave someone a degree with that level of reading comprehension, lulz.

Lol, that “cow college” afforded me the job to live in Palo Alto. Meanwhile, you’re living on the ground floor apartment in Rancho Cucamonga with the bedpan flipper supporting you.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I like the option of Brandon Carr at Safety over Earl Thomas from what we know right now. Some points in Carr’s favor –

1 – the Dallas scheme now plays deep safeties that are now closer to the CB position than the interchangeable SS/FS style the old scheme featured.

2 – Carr has always been a team leader while ET left the Ravens under ehem…..very unfavorable circumstances.

3 – Carr is very dependable, he has played 192 of 192 games in his 11 seasons. Thomas has had major injuries and hasn’t started all 16 games in five years. Carr is 34 but Dallas once thought Terrence Newman was washed up at that age and he started for another six seasons in the NFL.

4 – Carr made 6 Million for each of the last three years and would likely take less than that now on a deal that was mostly incentives. If ET chased Garrett into the tunnel to ask him to sign him, only to take the highest bid in Baltimore, it doesn’t make me think he will back off high contract demands. ET is clearly about taking the most money. We have the money, but that isn’t really the personality this coaching staff wants.

5 – ET’s play dropped off last year and plenty of CBs have extended their careers moving to Safety like Carr would in this move.

6 – Carr already played some safety last season and Darryl Worley can play safety early in the season, I don’t worry about either Carr or ET being able to step into the lineup after a game or two.

As long as we sign him to play CB and not Safety. I know fans get excited about playing a CB at S but it never works out for us