TV Ratings decline

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ondaedg

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Alot of personal opinions here proclaiming the death of the NFL. You know what they say about doom and gloom opinions.
 

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Don't know if you've been following this but the thinking that a captive audience would be a ratings bonanza has not happened and in fact the TV nets are doing make goods and discounting the rates because of the 25% drop in viewership. It was off almost 50% on Thanksgiving. This is unheard of to be discounting rates on the NFL.

In case you haven't noticed, the commercial load has increased and the same tired ATT, Progressive, State Farm, Toyota ads are hard to avoid along with every prescription drug with s=ide effects as bad as what they're designed for. It is overkill to the point of really being interested in the game to stay with it. I find myself drifting and checking out what's going on elsewhere.

There are several reasons floating out there, one of which we cannot discuss here, but I do not think this is temporary, I think the NFL and the nets are going to have to adjust to what I think the real enemy is, choices. And I have seen some ad men addressing this as the challenge.

TV nets don't usually try to counter NFL programming and in fact will promote games on other nets but the new kids on the block, Netflix, Amazon, Apple, Disney, Hulu, Peacock and HBO MAX don't have to worry about that, they just keep cranking out the productions. And advertising them during the games.

It does sound logical that live sports would get a boost with a stay at home audience but all of them were off and not just by a little, MLB. NBA, NHL were in the dumpster. And the once impervious NFL joined them and with TV deals coming up tied to the cap, this will be most interesting to see where this goes.

Some will say this is temporary. Like some said the NFL ratings would go through the roof. I don't think so.
I don’t think it wasn’t expected
Thanksgiving you lost the prime time game
You’ve had a election year, pandemic and games rescheduled
In that they’ve seen a 7% drop
 

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This is the first year I have missed more than 1 game on tv simply because I am the DC market. Never been an issue before since I could easily go to a sports bar and watch on the big screens! Well, this year those options have been few and far between with our state/county limiting restaurants to outdoor seating or whatever. It sucks cause I don't care who they are playing each week I just love the Boyz! This has to be some of the reason the ratings are dropping. I would guess Direct TV probably lost a few subscriptions...
 
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Goodell and the owners that put him out there have made a series of mistakes based upon what they perceive to be widespread public sentiment,,, they're wrong, and like many who believe the various media agendas they're being led around by the nose like dumb animals. Goodell says they don't mind the revenue loss, they'll find new customers,,,, wrong again, the NFL is in permanent decline. They haven't even reached the new normal yet.
 

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Many people that I talk to have stopped watching for that reason alone.
Same here. And I'm talking diehard fans that never miss a single thing, article, game etc....
There are some who align with the idea that it's no big deal, but to some, introducing sports into cancel culture is a big mistake and turn off.
 

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Goodell and the owners that put him out there have made a series of mistakes based upon what they perceive to be widespread public sentiment,,, they're wrong, and like many who believe the various media agendas they're being led around by the nose like dumb animals. Goodell says they don't mind the revenue loss, they'll find new customers,,,, wrong again, the NFL is in permanent decline. They haven't even reached the new normal yet.


:lmao2:
 

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NFL Football is #1 and always will be. It's a culture ingrained in us. Even the haters and losers.
 

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I think the NFL has lost some fans due to let’s call it the “culture wars” to prevent from going deeper into that issue.


That being said. I think we need to look at the long term situation pragmatically.

1. I think that is a minority of overall fans. Some of whom will probably eventually come back.

2. I think the issue itself will eventually pass. It won’t be talked about during games, etc and people just won’t be as focused on that and will get back to football. Which will also make more fans come back.

So while that is an issue. I just don’t see it being an issue that is going to lead to the demise of the league or anything crazy like that. I think it’s one of those things that the league, players and fans all move on from and just get back to football.
 

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I've stopped watching nfl games unless the Cowboys are on locally. And it is because the nfl product is hot garbage. Also I honestly find myself more entertained watching something on Hulu, Netflix or any form of Hockey. I wasn't a Hockey fan until about 8 years ago. that sport if you give it a chance is far better to watch than the nfl product. Also the amount of great tv shows/ entertainment is really amazing. Peaky Blinders is my all time favorite show. I would watch that show over anything.
This! and why?

1. Defenses can't play defense anymore
2. We protect the QB so much that there is no common sense involved
3. Refs and flags
4. Commercials--way too many interruptions
5. There really isn't any big rivalries any longer--games are boring
6. The announcers are terrible. Outside of Romo/Nance and Collinsworth/Michaels, the rest are hard to listen to
7. Espn has ruined football and MNF in general. Too many morning shows that are basically the same show. MNF coverage is awful. Espn caters to the average football fan that only gives information so these guys can have something to generally talk about over the water cooler the next day. But don't go into depth. Pretty much everyone here knows more than the average Espn viewer.
 

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This! and why?

1. Defenses can't play defense anymore
2. We protect the QB so much that there is no common sense involved
3. Refs and flags
4. Commercials--way too many interruptions
5. There really isn't any big rivalries any longer--games are boring
6. The announcers are terrible. Outside of Romo/Nance and Collinsworth/Michaels, the rest are hard to listen to
7. Espn has ruined football and MNF in general. Too many morning shows that are basically the same show. MNF coverage is awful. Espn caters to the average football fan that only gives information so these guys can have something to generally talk about over the water cooler the next day. But don't go into depth. Pretty much everyone here knows more than the average Espn viewer.


Over saturation is a real concern. I think.


Too many prime time games. IMO
 

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Everyone knows the reason , so pretending it’s something else is nonsense . I have a circle of about 15 hardcore NFL fans friends and acquaintances , half of them tuned out when it started to be something other than football . I’ve tried telling them it isn’t that bad at all but they ain’t coming back , they’ve moved on to other things and this after decades of being fans.
 

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Watching a live NFL game is like sitting down to watch 3 hours worth of commercials that are occasionally interrupted by sports.


It’s true. I am a big football fan. But when games are on. I am also on my phone or doing something else due to interruptions from commercials.

Except for cowboys games of course.
 

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I’m doing my part with 5 TV’s alone on in my sports cave on the weekends not counting rest of house .

And I don’t have Netflix or any of the other outlets. All Direct TV.
 

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I stream the Cowboys game illegally even tho I can watch it like a normal person, I just refuse to support Jerry Jones and his nonsense
 

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It’s still the biggest draw for the networks and they will pay handsomely for it.
 

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Honestly. If they would just start reprimanding officials for blown calls. It would help a lot. The players get fined when they mess up. Why not fine the officials?
that would be too much accountability on a vital part of the game
 
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